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Romney Claims NRA Endorsement He Didn't Receive
Washington Post ^ | 12/16/2007

Posted on 12/16/2007 5:07:47 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama

Maybe it was the pressure of the moment. Being under the Tim Russert spotlight can get to anyone. Under Russert's grilling about guns on this morning's "Meet the Press," former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney claimed an endorsement he'd never won.

....snip.....

"I just talked about, about guns. I told you what my position was, and what I, what I did as governor; the fact that I received the endorsement of the NRA."

The problem?

He was never endorsed by the NRA, and didn't have their official support during his 2002 gubernatorial campaign. The NRA declined to endorse in that race, as was acknowledged by Romney's spokesman this morning.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2002; 2008; banglist; election; electionpresident; elections; firearms; gop; liarliarpantsonfire; mittromney; republicans
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To: Sola Veritas

If Huck is the eventual nominee you bet I will be there with my vote.
Beats any of the demorats by a mile and a half.

At this point we are in the primaries and we can differ on our
candidates of pereference. That is how it should be.


61 posted on 12/16/2007 6:33:11 PM PST by ajay_kumar
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Knowing that the 2nd Amendment movement is pretty fragmented, state to state, I would hardly be surprised if a state organization endorsed him and he didn't even realize the NRA stood back.
62 posted on 12/16/2007 6:33:36 PM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: All

I have just gone through the entirety of the interview transcript. You can do the same here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22273924

Here is the relevant extract:

GOV. ROMNEY: That—Tim, I’ll reject that. And—because we just talked about stem cell research.

MR. RUSSERT: All right.

GOV. ROMNEY: And I described what my position was.

MR. RUSSERT: Let...

GOV. ROMNEY: I just talked about, about guns. I told you what my position was, and what I, what I did as governor; the fact that I received the endorsement of the NRA. And so...

...

It’s very very clear what is going on and the Washington Post reporter appears to have either cut/pasted an opposition email or spent zero time fact checking the transcript itself.

If you go back about 3 pages in the transcript you will see Romney talking about the illegal immigration proposals that were at that time (May, I believe) being discussed in Congress. His phrasing is “I did not endorse any of those plans. I could not support them.” His frame of mind and maybe normal speech is to equate endorsements with support.

The precise quote above makes it very clear he is talking about things he did AS Governor. Not running for Governor. After he was elected Governor. The NRA supported a bill that went through the legislative process of compromise. The fact the NRA did not endorse anyone for that Governor election is clearly not relevant at all to what is being referred to.

Guys, come on. This is shallow. If you want to attack his gun control position, attack the position he has. He says he’d sign an Assault Weapons Ban. Just like the President would.


63 posted on 12/16/2007 6:35:31 PM PST by Owen
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"Russert would have pounced on a claim like that."

No question.

64 posted on 12/16/2007 6:35:48 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Spare me.

Even his campaign admitted today that Romney didn’t get the endorsement of the NRA in 2002.

They didn’t even attempt your incredible spin.

65 posted on 12/16/2007 6:36:37 PM PST by JRochelle (Mitt Romney: "He (Huckabee) would make a fine President!")
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis
So, when Mitt falsely claimed that "and yet I also was pleased to have the support of the NRA when I ran for governor," he wasn't lying? Perhaps he wasn't lying, if he was delusional this morning and just falsely remembered what happened a scant three years ago. Or, maybe it just depends on what the meaning of "have" is, right? We already know what Mitt's definition of "lifelong" is; it's doing something twice, 40 years apart.
66 posted on 12/16/2007 6:37:20 PM PST by LiveFree99
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To: editor-surveyor

Meanwhile, in the real world, Romney just got the ENDORSEMENT of Judge Robert Bork. I guess he’ll join the growing ranks of sellouts and liberals. :-)

And I guess the Russert interview must have gone pretty well if this is the only thing the Mitt-haters can find to whine about.


67 posted on 12/16/2007 6:37:29 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ah, Slick Willard, the gift that keeps on giving.


68 posted on 12/16/2007 6:43:07 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: Owen

Dizzy yet?

HERE is the relevant part:

GOV. ROMNEY: Just as the president said, he would have, he would have signed that bill if it came to his desk, and so would have I. And, and, and yet I also was pleased to have the support of the NRA when I ran for governor. I sought it, I seek it now. I’d love to have their support. I believe in the right of Americans to bear arms...


69 posted on 12/16/2007 6:44:56 PM PST by JRochelle (Mitt Romney: "He (Huckabee) would make a fine President!")
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Slick Mitt, another liberal trying to convince us that he’s a conservative. I’m offended that he thinks that we can be so easily fooled.


70 posted on 12/16/2007 6:45:58 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Owen
Did the NRA EVER support Romney signing a permanent assault weapons ban?

That was what the question from Russert was about that Romney responded to.

Did the NRA EVER support the AWB?

If you say NO you are correct and Romney is a lier!

71 posted on 12/16/2007 6:46:06 PM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Petronski
The posts on this thread are mind-boggling.

Up is down, black is white, lies are truth.

72 posted on 12/16/2007 6:46:45 PM PST by JRochelle (Mitt Romney: "He (Huckabee) would make a fine President!")
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To: LiveFree99

Did he know it was false at the time he said it?

And, I have a question for you: why did you excerpt only the section on legislation and not the section you now are all so hot and bothered about? If I were one to jump to judgment about your motives and what was going on in your head when you made your excerpts, I’d be tempted to think that you excerpted things to play a very subtle and dishonest game of gotcha.

But then, that’s only a temptation. Why, aw shucks, I’d never do a thing like suggest that you did something like that because I’d have to see inside your head and I can’t do that. But you have no problem seeing inside other people’s heads.

Because you already have your mind made up. Pre-judice, it’s called. Pre-judgment.


73 posted on 12/16/2007 6:48:02 PM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: JRochelle
You do not know The Party slogan, comrade?

“War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.”

74 posted on 12/16/2007 6:49:45 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: JRochelle

It’s my understanding Romney rec’d a B rating from the NRA for that election. Disclaimer: I have not fact checked that, but have seen it a few places. B looks rather supportive to me.

How many F’s, D’s and C’s does the NRA hand out to candidates? Whatever the number, Romney apparently didn’t get one.

You guys are completely out of control.


75 posted on 12/16/2007 6:51:04 PM PST by Owen
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis
Of course Romney knew he was lying.

It is now quite normal for him.

76 posted on 12/16/2007 6:51:37 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Mitt Romney is not a liar.

Right. Romney told the 'truth' falsely.

77 posted on 12/16/2007 6:52:52 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: LiveFree99

“Perhaps he wasn’t lying, if he was delusional this morning and just falsely remembered what happened a scant three years ago.”

Let’s play gotcha some more. I think that he ran for governor 5 years ago. By your standards, you lied when you wrote “a scant three years ago.” By my standards, you probably miscalculated. Or the “three years” referred to the legislation, but you placed it in the context of a quote about running for governor. By your standards, you lied when you placed it in that context because by your standards, anything “false” is a lie. But by my standards, you probably just weren’t precise about whether the “scant three years” referred to 2002 running for governor or legislation in 2004. Or you just miscalculated, as we all do from time to time.

But by your own petard you are hoist to the heavens as a liar.

I would be perfectly willing to plea bargain you down to “misremembered.”

Something about glass houses and stones, I think.


78 posted on 12/16/2007 6:54:37 PM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: Owen

Yeah sure.

You just keep telling yourself that...


79 posted on 12/16/2007 6:55:08 PM PST by JRochelle (Mitt Romney: "He (Huckabee) would make a fine President!")
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To: Owen
Here is the relevant extract:

Wrong. This is the relevant quote:

GOV. ROMNEY: Just as the president said, he would have, he would have signed that bill if it came to his desk, and so would have I. And, and, and yet I also was pleased to have the support of the NRA when I ran for governor. I sought it, I seek it now. I'd love to have their support. I believe in the right of Americans to bear arms...

This is the relevant quote in which Romney falsely claims to have been endorsed by the NRA. You Mitt supporters keep desperately raising the other quote as a red herring to defend your boy. Why don't you just admit that Mitt made a false claim and move on, instead of defending him with Clintonian tactics?

80 posted on 12/16/2007 6:56:42 PM PST by LiveFree99
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