Posted on 12/10/2007 7:49:56 AM PST by jdm
Whither "equal protection?"
I think you just won the argument.
penalties does one face for carrying in a business marked “no guns”?
Loss of permit and lots of felony charges.
You make lots of claims, but don’t support them.
Please quote my statements you are referring to, and I will address your arguments, which are presently incomprehensible.
You in big trouble if you have a permit and ignore the ruloes.
You in big trouble if you have a permit and ignore the ruloes.
Guess again.
Where you live, it may very well be a felony charge to carry where signs are posted against it.
Where Beelzebubba and I live in Nevada, a sign in a public place means nothing. The sign might as well say 'Support the United Negro College Fund' for all the force or effect it holds.
Loss of permit and lots of felony charges.
That's not true in the state in which the poster to whom you responded resides.
Of course. The handgun permits were initiated in the first place to combat the gun grabbing platform of the Liberals in 1994.
It’s true here, which rebuts the entire argument.
Loss of permit and lots of felony charges.
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Please don’t give ignorant legal advice. What you say is untrue in many or most states.
From Texas Department of Public safety
Crime Records Service
Concealed Handgun Licensing Section
Frequently Asked Questions about Texas Concealed Handguns
Q: Do private property owners have the right to exclude license holders from their property?
A: Yes. Private property owners may give notice excluding license holders from carrying concealed handguns. If you carry a concealed handgun on posted property, you can be charged with criminal trespass by a license holder. The charge is a Class A misdemeanor, and if you are convicted, your license will be revoked.
“Here?”
Congratulations! You are 2% of the way there!
(BTW, has there EVER been a case where someone has been charged or revoked under that law for doing nothing more than carrying into private property where it would have been legal except for a sign prohibiting it?)
For the geniuses here who are simply looking to bicker, I will repeat and stand by my complete statement in post 42:
“In many states, there is no criminal penalty (for violating a private carry ban sign). If would fall into the same legal category as “no dogs” or “shirts required.” The owner has the right to eject you, and if you refuse, your are trespassing and subject to arrest.
“But check your state, because some states surely make it a crime to violate a proper gun-ban sign on private property.”
No, it rebuts what the argument would have been if someone who carries in your state had asked you. The correct answer for the person who asked the question is that there is no penalty for carrying into a place that posts a sign prohibiting it, as long as it is otherwise legal to carry in that place, and assuming you would leave if you were asked to do so.
State gun laws vary so widely that an answer pertaining to a given state is almost certain to be untrue in another state. It’s unwise to give a blanket answer unless you specify the state(s) to which your answer applies, or you are sure that your answer is right for the state about which the question is posed.
How does a magnotometer distinguish between the minial metal in my glock and someone eles’s car keys?
The point is don’t assume that because the signs mean nothing in your state that the signs mean nothing “most states”. You could end up with a criminal record and be barred by federal law from owning a hand gun.
Yes, there are also cases where people lost their permit because the gun wasn’t Concealed enough. Texas law says its presence can’t be “discernible through ordinary observation”.
About two or three times a year some anti-human-rights nut hits a permit holder with this. There was a case about 4 years ago where an exwife flagged down a cop and told him she saw a man in the store who had a gun under his jacket. Her exhusband lost his permit.
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