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Michael Medved on 'The Golden Compass'
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Posted on 12/09/2007 2:06:22 PM PST by Coleus

Michael Medved says 'The Golden Compass' movie is a very complicated thing. It is based on the novel, Northern Lights (later renamed 'The Golden Compass'), which is the first in the His Dark Materials trilogy by Philip Pullman.   Michael says this movie is good enough to drive kids to read the books. It is very entertaining and well-done. However, people must really question the message it is sending, which is an attack on the church. Michael says the message will probably go over the heads of the young children that see the movie, but older teens and adults should be concerned about the message. 

In the movie, "the Magisterion" is a group that resembles the Catholic church and it "wants to control you."  One of the characters, the Evil Emperon, even looks like the current pope, Pope Benedict. Other characterizations that are not good are "daemons," which are the human characters' animal companions or spiritual counterparts. They seem cuddly and friendly but they are in fact personal demons which Pullman does not really disguise.      

Overall, Michael says this movie is artistically well done, entertaining, and skillfully crafted. If you just care about being entertained and not the message, this film is for you. However, there are questionable messages in it and you should care about them. On one level the movie is very cautious with kids. With its PG-13 rating, it seems to be sensitive with the more violent scenes. For example, there is a battle with two of the Ice Bears, and there is no bloodshed. However, the movie is not sensitive as far as witches being presented as good and people that represent the church being portrayed as very bad.  The production of the movie was very expensive, and it has come out in a crowded movie market. Michael says the film's makers are worried about that. They want the faith community to publicly boycott the film, because they need the publicity and attention so people will see the movie. Michael's advice for the faith community is not to give them a boycott, but to stay home and wait for the new Narnia movie which will be out in May 2008. 

THE GOLDEN COMPASS, THE STORY           

Philip Pullman started His Dark Materials trilogy in 1993. They are international best sellers in the young adult market with a ready made audience for the movie. Pullman is an avowed atheist who wrote the trilogy because he was upset by the Christian evangelism in C.S. Lewis,’ The Chronicles of Narnia. The plot of 'The Golden Compass' revolves around spiritism, magical thinking, mysterious visions, and parallel worlds. The golden compass of the title is a tool of divination. In the books, Pullman represents God as a decrepit and perverse angel who captures the dead in a “prison camp” afterlife.           

The story centers on Lyra, a young girl living at Jordan College in the Oxford of an alternate world where everyone is accompanied by a daemon, a physical representation of their soul in animal form.  One morning, Lyra's school Master calls her urgently into his office and gives her a strange instrument called an Alethiometer (the “golden compass”). He tells her that it is capable of telling the truth but that it is up to her to read it. He also pleads with her to keep the Alethiometer to herself. Lyra then finds herself in a world where she must fight against evil, and here lies the controversy. Lyra is the "chosen child" who must do battle with evil. But in this story, the things that are good are evil (the church is the Magisterion, the bad group trying to gain control of all) and evil is good (daemons and witches are allies.) 



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1 posted on 12/09/2007 2:06:23 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

When money tracking firms greet opening numbers with “it’s not an out-and-out debacle” you know the film isn’t doing as well as expected.


2 posted on 12/09/2007 2:10:22 PM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: Coleus
I wouldn't have read this but for the Medved reference. He is a movie critic I ALWAYS read.

This movie never would have made my radar screen except for all the chatter about Pullman. This caused me to think a bit and have concluded that prominant atheists strike me as an unhappy lot. Yet, it's not just that they seem unhappy. It's more that they want for all day to share their unhappiness with as wide an audience as they can.

3 posted on 12/09/2007 2:14:23 PM PST by stevem
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To: Coleus
Other characterizations that are not good are "daemons," which are the human characters' animal companions or spiritual counterparts. They seem cuddly and friendly but they are in fact personal demons which Pullman does not really disguise.

While I don't think Mevid is mischaracterizing the intent of the author here, I do want to address the issue of these 'daemons'.

It is my opinion that these animal counterparts are more accurately described as the human's soul, in an external manifestation.  If the person has opted to adopt a good nature, the manifestation has a like manor.  If the person has adopted an evil nature, the manifestation reflects that.

I do not think it is accurate to describe these manifestations as a 'demon'.  The common perception of a demon is evil.  We don't all have evil natures.  I therefore object to the characterization of the outward manifestation of these people's souls, to be demons.  No, they are simply the outward manifestation of the individual's soul.

From my observation of the description of the author's intent, it is easy to accept that he may have wanted to depict everyone as having an internal demon.  That's not my perception.  I believe we have good and evil spirits (some would say our good or evil nature) telling us what we should do, but it is our choice what we do in life.  We are not controled by an evil demon, although we may virtually become one by the exercise of our own free will.  We can also become angelic by making choices based on what we believe is the rightous thing to do.

4 posted on 12/09/2007 2:28:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: Coleus

Since I’ve already seen one movie this year, I’ve used up my allotment for 2007. If, and only if, I decide to see the movie, I’ll wait until next year.


5 posted on 12/09/2007 2:33:55 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: stevem
Actually it seems to me that most atheists are an unhappy lot, not just the prominent ones. If find it fascinating that they are so sure of themselves, yet always want to debate, argue or convince you of their point of view. On the other had, there seems to be a great number of people who are Believers, who although they may have doubts and uncertainty, seem to be a much happier lot overall and are much less argumentative.
6 posted on 12/09/2007 2:34:19 PM PST by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse (especially Iran's)")
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To: Coleus

Excellent advice.

I’d never knowingly watch something with an unbeliever message anway.


7 posted on 12/09/2007 2:39:26 PM PST by Axlrose
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To: lilylangtree

lily....ain’t even gonna watch it when it comes on TV!!!!


8 posted on 12/09/2007 2:45:26 PM PST by nyyankeefan
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To: DoughtyOne

“demon” is derived from the more general Greek term, “daimon.”

The entry in Liddell and Scott includes:

II. daimones, in Hes. [ Hesiod ], are the souls of men of the Golden age, forming the link between gods and men:- later, of any departed souls, Lat. manes, lemures, Luc. [ Lucretius ]


9 posted on 12/09/2007 3:08:20 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Coleus
The bizarre thing is this guy Pullman claims he an atheist

But a true atheist would believe there is, no god, no, spiritualism, magical thinking, mysterious visions, no divination, no soul, but Pullman has them all and more

He just has traditional evil as good and good as evil

The guy doesn't sound like a true atheist but a believer on the Satanic side

10 posted on 12/09/2007 3:43:47 PM PST by tophat9000 (You need to have standards to fail and be a hypocrite, Dem's therefor are never hypocrites)
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To: Left2Right

“Actually it seems to me that most atheists are an unhappy lot, not just the prominent ones. If find it fascinating that they are so sure of themselves, yet always want to debate, argue or convince you of their point of view. On the other had, there seems to be a great number of people who are Believers, who although they may have doubts and uncertainty, seem to be a much happier lot overall and are much less argumentative.”

Actually, I think the exact opposite is true. Atheists are happy people who have no problem at all with others practicing whatever religion they want. The self proclaimed atheists who are upset actually do practice a religion of some sort, the forerunners seem to be either communism (ACLU), environment, or both. A true atheist doesn’t acknowledge religion, so therefore doesn’t get angry about it.


11 posted on 12/09/2007 3:52:44 PM PST by BerryDingle (Illegitimi Non Carborundum (Don't let the bastards wear you down))
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To: DoughtyOne
So what you are saying is that while as the author’s underlying premise remains anti-Christian — it is not meant in the way some people are taking it?
12 posted on 12/09/2007 4:19:41 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Coleus; visually_augmented

ping


13 posted on 12/09/2007 4:31:05 PM PST by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (So many books, so little time!)
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To: icwhatudo
The take on it at CBS:

Dec 9, 2007 1:00 pm US/Pacific

'Golden Compass' Tops Box Office With Modest $26M

LOS ANGELES (AP) ― "The Golden Compass" proved a mild fantasy at the box office, pulling about $26 million this weekend. That's a modest opening weekend compared to such recent December heavyweights as "The Lord of the Rings" and "The Chronicles of Narnia" flicks. New Line Cinema's "The Golden Compass," whose cast includes Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig, also took in $55 million overseas since it began opening Wednesday in 25 other countries.

Disney's "Enchanted," the number one movie the previous two weekends, fell to second-place with $10.7 million, raising its total to $83.9 million. New Line, which had enormous success with its three "Lord of the Rings" films, had hoped for more out of "The Golden Compass," expecting it to reach at least $30 million domestically over its first weekend.

The film follows the adventures of an orphan girl hurled into a parallel world of witches, strange flying machines and talking polar bears. It cost $180 million to make.

14 posted on 12/09/2007 4:39:57 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Left2Right

Atheists have always seemed such miserable, nasty characters they have never attracted people to jump on their bandwagon.


15 posted on 12/09/2007 4:41:34 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Coleus

Yesterday, I heard one caller-in on a radio show saying he took his young children to see the movie and it bored them silly. Impossible to follow and the CGI was cheesy.


16 posted on 12/09/2007 4:43:11 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Coleus

Though that same reviewer said Sam Elliot did a great job as a fantasy-world cowboy character—it was as if he was acting in a different movie.


17 posted on 12/09/2007 4:46:01 PM PST by sinanju
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To: DoughtyOne
While I don't think Mevid is mischaracterizing the intent of the author here, I do want to address the issue of these 'daemons'. It is my opinion that these animal counterparts are more accurately described as the human's soul, in an external manifestation.

Don't be silly. He called them 'daemons' for a reason.

18 posted on 12/09/2007 5:03:42 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: DoughtyOne
We are not controled by an evil demon, although we may virtually become one by the exercise of our own free will.

Free will? You mean as in young thirteen year olds engaging in sexual relations as in the end of the third book?

19 posted on 12/09/2007 5:05:13 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: DoughtyOne

I think this movie goes for a much more complex and evil depiction than you think.

If you’ve ever read about documented cases of possesion, “familiars” or “demons” are common.

http://paranormal.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ/Ya&sdn=paranormal&cdn=newsissues&tm=16&gps=111_3_1020_629&f=10&su=p284.8.150.ip_&tt=14&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//www.catholicherald.com/saunders/04ws/ws040916.htm

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04713a.htm

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04711a.htm

I’m not a flake, but there are documented cases in modern times. This movie, attacking Christianity, would naturally form an alliance with Christianity’s oldest enemy. The movie makers are truly playing with fire.


20 posted on 12/09/2007 7:20:47 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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