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Motor City named nation's most dangerous (List of Most Dangerous Cities in America)
Yahoo ^ | 11/19/07 | David Goodman

Posted on 11/27/2007 6:11:54 AM PST by Clemenza

In another blow to the Motor City's tarnished image, Detroit pushed past St. Louis to become the nation's most dangerous city, according to a private research group's controversial analysis, released Sunday, of annual FBI crime statistics.

The study drew harsh criticism even before it came out. The American Society of Criminology launched a pre-emptive strike Friday, issuing a statement attacking it as "an irresponsible misuse" of crime data.

The 14th annual "City Crime Rankings: Crime in Metropolitan America" was published by CQ Press, a unit of Congressional Quarterly Inc. It is based on the FBI's Sept. 24 crime statistics report.

The report looked at 378 cities with at least 75,000 people based on per-capita rates for homicide, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary and auto theft. Each crime category was considered separately and weighted based on its seriousness, CQ Press said.

Last year's crime leader, St. Louis, fell to No. 2. Another Michigan city, Flint, ranked third, followed by Oakland Calif.; Camden, N.J.; Birmingham, Ala.; North Charleston, S.C.; Memphis, Tenn.; Richmond, Calif.; and Cleveland.

The study ranked Mission Viejo, Calif., as the safest U.S. city, followed by Clarkstown, N.Y.; Brick Township, N.J.; Amherst, N.Y.; and Sugar Land, Texas.

CQ Press spokesman Ben Krasney said details of the weighting system were proprietary. It was compiled by Kathleen O'Leary Morgan and Scott Morgan, whose Morgan Quitno Press published it until its acquisition by CQ Press.

The study assigns a crime score to each city, with zero representing the national average. Detroit got a score of 407, while St. Louis followed at 406. The score for Mission Viejo, in affluent Orange County, was minus 82.

Detroit was pegged the nation's murder capital in the 1980s and has lost nearly 1 million people since 1950, according to the Census Bureau. Downtown sports stadiums and corporate headquarters — along with the redevelopment of the riverfront of this city of 919,000 — have slowed but not reversed the decline. Officials have said crime reports don't help.

Detroit police officials released a statement Sunday night disputing the report, saying it fails to put crime information into proper context.

"Every year this organization sends out a press release with big, bold lettering that labels a certain city as Most Dangerous, USA," Police Chief Ella Bully-Cummings said in the release.

"It really makes you wonder if the organization is truly concerned with evaluating crime or increasing their profit," said Bully-Cummings, who noted the complete report is available only by purchase. "With crime experts across the country routinely denouncing the findings, I believe the answer is clear."

The mayor of 30th-ranked Rochester, N.Y. — an ex-police chief himself — said the study's authors should consider the harm that the report causes.

"What I take exception to is the use of these statistics and the damage they inflict on a number of these cities," said Mayor Robert Duffy, chairman of the Criminal and Social Justice Committee for the U.S. Conference of Mayors.

The rankings "do groundless harm to many communities," said Michael Tonry, president of the American Society of Criminology.

"They also work against a key goal of our society, which is a better understanding of crime-related issues by both scientists and the public," Tonry said.

Critics also complain that numbers don't tell the whole story because of differences among cities.

"You're not comparing apples and oranges; you're comparing watermelons and grapes," said Rob Casey, who heads the FBI section that puts out the Uniform Crime Report that provides the data for the Quitno report.

The FBI posted a statement on its Web site criticizing such use of its statistics.

"These rough rankings provide no insight into the numerous variables that mold crime in a particular town, city, county, state, or region," the FBI said. "Consequently, they lead to simplistic and/or incomplete analyses that often create misleading perceptions adversely affecting communities and their residents."

Doug Goldenberg-Hart, acquisitions editor at CQ Press, said that the rankings are imperfect, but that the numbers are straightforward. Cities at the top of the list would not be there unless they ranked poorly in all six crime categories, he said.

"The idea that people oppose it, it's kind of blaming the messenger," Goldenberg-Hart said. "It's not coming to terms with the idea that crime is a persistent problem in our society."

The report "helps concerned Americans learn how their communities fare in the fight against crime," CQ Press said in a statement. "The first step in making our cities and states safer is to understand the true magnitude of their crime problems. This will only be achieved through straightforward data that all of us can use and understand."

The study excluded Chicago, Minneapolis, and other Illinois and Minnesota cities because of incomplete data.


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No surprises here, although most of these cities DO NOT have a large illegal alien population. Their crime problems are strictly homegrown.
1 posted on 11/27/2007 6:11:56 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: Clemenza

I wonder what the party affiliation of the local governance is...oh wait...don’t tell me...


2 posted on 11/27/2007 6:12:58 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Bush’s fault.


3 posted on 11/27/2007 6:14:48 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Not one of said cities has a GOP Mayor or GOP majority city council. On the other hand, I know that Brick, NJ (one of the safest cities per the same list) has a Republican Mayor and council (yes, even in Jersey we have GOP-dominated municipalities, unfortunately they are still way outnumbered by Newark, Camden, Woodbridge, Edison, JC, etc.).


4 posted on 11/27/2007 6:15:24 AM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Not one of said cities has a GOP Mayor or GOP majority city council. On the other hand, I know that Brick, NJ (one of the safest cities per the same list) has a Republican Mayor and council (yes, even in Jersey we have GOP-dominated municipalities, unfortunately they are still way outnumbered by Newark, Camden, Woodbridge, Edison, JC, etc.).


5 posted on 11/27/2007 6:15:25 AM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Clemenza
The FBI posted a statement on its Web site criticizing such use of its statistics.

"These rough rankings provide no insight into the numerous variables that mold crime in a particular town, city, county, state, or region," the FBI said. "Consequently, they lead to simplistic and/or incomplete analyses that often create misleading perceptions adversely affecting communities and their residents."

Meaning, they might lead people to the obvious conclusion that rather than a "crime" problem, we actually have a "young urban black male" problem?

6 posted on 11/27/2007 6:15:48 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Clemenza

How do we know how many illegal aliens are committing crimes in a city if the cops don’t check?


7 posted on 11/27/2007 6:16:48 AM PST by donna (Chickens grown in the USA; then processed in CHINA; then sold in the USA. Huh?)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Facts, we don’t need no stinking facts.


8 posted on 11/27/2007 6:19:05 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: donna
Probably true in the SW, although the JQ Laws still can't avoid putting homicide and rape into their reports.

I'll put Camden, most of Detroit, and North and West Philly against any barrio/ghetto in the SW anyday of the week. Would scare them back south of the border FWIW.

9 posted on 11/27/2007 6:19:38 AM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Clemenza

“I’ll put Camden, most of Detroit, and North and West Philly against any barrio/ghetto in the SW anyday of the week. Would scare them back south of the border FWIW.”

A friend of mine broke down in a pretty bad area of Baltimore one time and fortunately for her, a cop happened along. It was around 6pm and the sun was going down and the cop told her point blank “You need to get out of here because you will be raped or killed tonight.”

Welcome to America’s inner cities.


10 posted on 11/27/2007 6:22:06 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: Clemenza

Can we now say “New Fallujah”?


11 posted on 11/27/2007 6:23:04 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Questions are free. Answers are $1. Correct answers are $5.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
Detroit, most dangerous? All I can say is "DUH". Though you wouldn't think it if you listened to the local news....

Mike

12 posted on 11/27/2007 6:23:26 AM PST by MichaelP (The Big Picture IS important!)
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To: Clemenza

Bingo...


13 posted on 11/27/2007 6:24:25 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: Clemenza
The rankings "do groundless harm to many communities," said Michael Tonry, president of the American Society of Criminology.

"They also work against a key goal of our society, which is a better understanding of crime-related issues by both scientists and the public," Tonry said.

This guy doesn't live in Detroit.

14 posted on 11/27/2007 6:26:28 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Clemenza

Was New Orleans exempt from consideration?


15 posted on 11/27/2007 6:29:41 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: MichaelP
Wife and I sailed from Two Harbors, MN to Rouge Steel on a steamship some years back. We planned to fly back to the Twin Cities from Detroit.
Our cab driver showed up at the gate and we noticed he was "wearing" a long Philippine bolo knife strapped to his leg.
"Why the big knife," I asked.
"Cops took my gun permit," was his reply.
16 posted on 11/27/2007 6:29:58 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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"Our cab driver showed up at the gate and we noticed he was "wearing" a long Philippine bolo knife strapped to his leg."

It's jungle out there.

17 posted on 11/27/2007 6:34:10 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Clemenza

I still maintain that New Orleans has always been the worst, but that it’s so uncivilized that it’s impossible to gather accurate statistics. Still, Detroit is one of the very last places I’d ever choose to live.


18 posted on 11/27/2007 6:34:57 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
LOL--When I worked on the border between Dearborn and Detroit during the early 90's, I was the only (white-collar) employee on the AM shift that didn't keep a gun in his vehicle.

At the time, I drove a '83 Delta 88 2-door, and kids used to flash me gang symbols as I passed by, so I was relatively "safe" (meaning that everyone thought I was in a gang).

19 posted on 11/27/2007 6:39:05 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: JamesP81

Most of the people on my dad’s side of the family left Detroit when things began to spiral out of control in the late 50s/early 60s. The last uncle left after the ‘68 riots.


20 posted on 11/27/2007 6:40:33 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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