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Inside Intel / Not a reactor - something far more vicious
Haaretz ^ | 11/22/07 | Yossi Melman

Posted on 11/26/2007 6:09:33 PM PST by dervish

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To: dervish

I wonder if, instead, they were building a “dirty bomb” — one using conventional high explosive to spread radioactive poisons over wide areas (Israel isn’t very wide).


21 posted on 11/26/2007 8:44:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dervish

Wow.


22 posted on 11/26/2007 8:47:22 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: dervish
It has briefed only a handful of very senior members of Congress, leaving the vast majority of foreign relations and intelligence committee members in the dark. We are among the very few who were briefed, but we have been sworn to secrecy on this matter.

The US military doesn't get as much intelligence from Israel as you would expect. It has nothing to do with trusting our military and everything to do with Israel's mistrust of our Congress.

Israel knows that the leaks come from Congress and anything told our military will wind up in Congressional briefings. And that no matter how highly classified, the bastards with agendas will leak information that endangers their very existance.

Looking at Leahy, Pelosi, Feimstein, Reid, Schummer and comapny, I can't say I blame Israel for not sharing.

23 posted on 11/26/2007 8:49:05 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: null and void; Southack; justa-hairyape; maine-iac7; LukeL; UCANSEE2; Tarpon; GovernmentShrinker

9/6 ping


24 posted on 11/26/2007 8:49:59 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: txflake
I think the Deir al Zehr site was a cover story, and I am starting to stand by my assertion that an actionable nuke was delivered by NK.

No way dude, Kim Jong Il, in mid-orgasm, promised Maddy Albright he would sell nukes to rogue nations.

25 posted on 11/26/2007 8:50:33 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: txflake
CORRECTION: I think the Deir al Zehr site was a cover story, and I am starting to stand by my assertion that an actionable nuke was delivered by NK.

No way dude, Kim Jong Il, in mid-orgasm, promised Maddy Albright he would NOT sell nukes to rogue nations.

Durka, durka, durka, Clinton Lied, Jihad

26 posted on 11/26/2007 8:51:24 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
True, it would require more Pu239 (by about only 1 kg) but is more reliable and doesn't need fancy (expensive/hard-to-get/unreliable/very-hard-to-make-from-scratch) micro-second timers and explosive wedges.

It will also fizzle and produce a yield of only a few hundred tons, unless they have incredibly pure, ultra-low burnup Pu-239 ... something that is very expensive and hard for even a accomplished nuclear weapons state to prepare.

27 posted on 11/26/2007 8:56:36 PM PST by Campion
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To: Doctor Raoul
By George - I think you’ve got it...
28 posted on 11/26/2007 9:05:38 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Doctor Raoul
There was this Iraq WMD -> Syria map we found last Spring

That Jveritas has translated.

29 posted on 11/26/2007 9:07:32 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: dervish

Plutonium isn’t hazzardous unless it is finely ground enough to be inhaled. Large particles are not hazzardous at all because there is no liklihood of accidental inhaling or ingestion.


30 posted on 11/26/2007 9:15:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Army Air Corps
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We're talking about heavy stuff here; it wouldn't go far in a river. Think gold panning; it stays in the deeper hollows of a stream.

31 posted on 11/26/2007 9:22:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; Ax; ...
MI ping

Syria revisited.
32 posted on 11/26/2007 9:23:27 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
"It has nothing to do with trusting our military and everything to do with Israel's mistrust of our Congress."

Well placed distrust.

33 posted on 11/26/2007 9:25:24 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I believe it is fairly difficult to ensure that there is no Pu-240 mixed in with the Pu-239. These extra little bits of isotype can supposedly enable a stray neutron to start a chain reaction just a little bit too soon in a gun-type device, leading to a dud or a weaker explosion.


34 posted on 11/26/2007 9:27:25 PM PST by billakay
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To: editor-surveyor
So a 'riverburst' is way better than an airburst, I'm buying that.

This is a site that came up on 9/5, or rather later that week:

?

What do you think this was?

35 posted on 11/26/2007 9:36:43 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: BIGLOOK

Thanks for the Ping.


36 posted on 11/26/2007 9:36:45 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: NY Attitude

This Syrian episode reminds me of a game of Nine Ball.....sunk on the break.


37 posted on 11/26/2007 9:50:09 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: dervish
Let's think about all this. There were clearly no cooling towers or water supply, yet all the shills said it was some nuclear processing plant....... Clearly a diversionary statement for something much differant. But what?

It is widely suspected that many scuds, N Korean made scuds, were sent to Syria by Saddam. N Korea wouldn't hesitate to auction off its nuke fuel, but it is very low grade, the Syrians could wait a year and do much better with Iranian fuel.

We know that N Koreans and French technicians were likely on site, they are experts in rocketry. Rockets are Israels weakness on defense.

I think there was a rocket assembly plant here using advanced rocket fuels for high launch/boost phase rockets armed with dirty nuke fuel for an air burst over Tel Aviv and then leverage over Israel.

38 posted on 11/26/2007 9:51:05 PM PST by gandalftb (Ruthless action may be only clarity...quickly, awake (Capt. Willard, Apocalypse Now))
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To: BIGLOOK

You are so correct. How are you doing? Are you still in Hawaii?


39 posted on 11/26/2007 10:01:32 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I still think they were in the processing of assembling an implosion-type atomic bomb. Sure, they could have went with a gunbarrel device but then the weight of the bomb would have made it difficult to deliver by missile or by a ground attack fighter like the MiG-27.


40 posted on 11/26/2007 10:05:48 PM PST by RayChuang88
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