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Forecast: U.S. dollar could plunge 90 pct (ZOT!!! Retread Trolls Hardest Hit)
UPI ^ | 11/19/07 | ??

Posted on 11/25/2007 1:48:04 PM PST by jrsmc

RHINEBECK, N.Y., Nov. 19 (UPI) -- A financial crisis will likely send the U.S. dollar into a free fall of as much as 90 percent and gold soaring to $2,000 an ounce, a trends researcher said.

"We are going to see economic times the likes of which no living person has seen," Trends Research Institute Director Gerald Celente said, forecasting a "Panic of 2008."

Forecast: U.S. dollar could plunge 90 pct

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crash; dollar; doomage; thedollarisdoomed; troll; wearedoomed; zot; zuluoscartango
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Dems and MSM are cranking up the doom & gloom.
1 posted on 11/25/2007 1:48:05 PM PST by jrsmc
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To: jrsmc

hey..let’s go back to the gold standard....


2 posted on 11/25/2007 1:49:02 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: jrsmc

If the dollar goes down 90%, then the euro goes up 900%. Somehow, I don’t think that is going to happen, but if it does it will be very “interesting,” primarily for the Europeans.


3 posted on 11/25/2007 1:51:00 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: stylin19a

Buy Gold!


4 posted on 11/25/2007 1:51:19 PM PST by glorgau
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To: jrsmc

“Dems and MSM are cranking up the doom & gloom.”

They do keep trying, don’t they?


5 posted on 11/25/2007 1:51:28 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: jrsmc

UPI goes to the wire on the quote of a goldbug?

Good grief.


6 posted on 11/25/2007 1:52:29 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal troika: romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: stylin19a; All
The Odd Alliance Supporting Ron Paul
7 posted on 11/25/2007 1:52:42 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: jrsmc

At last! Something more TERRIBLE AND CERTAIN than global warming!!


8 posted on 11/25/2007 1:53:02 PM PST by Bernard ("Rare, Safe and Legal" - what an ideal Immigration Policy should look like.)
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To: Brilliant

They won’t be selling many manufactured goods will they?


9 posted on 11/25/2007 1:53:51 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: jrsmc

Has everyone forgotten that mortgages are secured by hard assets


10 posted on 11/25/2007 1:54:04 PM PST by crghill (Christianity...setting women free since 0 a.d.)
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To: jrsmc

BULL


11 posted on 11/25/2007 1:54:28 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: jrsmc

I believe these are past predictions by the same guy: http://www.elon.edu/predictions/gerald_celente.aspx


12 posted on 11/25/2007 1:55:18 PM PST by kc8ukw
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To: crghill
are secured by hard assets

Hard assets with a capricious value.

13 posted on 11/25/2007 1:55:36 PM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: jrsmc
Quite unlikely. To every action is an equal and opposite reaction The export and domestic investment boom from anything like that kind of a decline would prop up the dollar. Because we need the foreign dollars to support the national debt, interest rates and taxes would have to go sky high, and the average Joe would inevitably be poorer. Same thing happened when Carter was president. Could happen again.
14 posted on 11/25/2007 1:55:43 PM PST by Ironclad (O Tempora! O Mores!)
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To: All

Hard to trust either side on this...you got GOPers claiming the economy is “fine” (dope smoking) and you got Dems claiming that “it will be worse than the depression” (crack smoking).

The economy is not well, but it wont be like the 20’s or 30’s. Unlike those times the govt is now willing to bail out failed businesses (ahh that Business Socialism)


15 posted on 11/25/2007 1:56:22 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (www.FantasyCollegeBlitz.com)
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To: jrsmc
Yep - Iraq has failed as an issue so they're cranking up "it's the economy, stupid" again. It worked in 1992.
16 posted on 11/25/2007 1:57:17 PM PST by Billthedrill
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...unless you have the courage to bring “Bill” back into the white house. (angel choir...)


17 posted on 11/25/2007 1:57:22 PM PST by epluribus_2
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To: jrsmc

I am actually concerned about the dollar. Its down 50% more than negating our gains in everything else.

But another 90% ?!

I looked up Gerald Celente and found he was all doom and gloom in 2000 but failed to predict the decline of the dollar. Also he uses phrases like “Empire America”

Its just possible he has mixed motives.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/31/sm.11.html


18 posted on 11/25/2007 1:57:29 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Petronski

“UPI goes to the wire on the quote of a goldbug?

Good grief.”

Agreed. I’m predicting cans of SPAM will become the only form of legal tender after the Great Economic Collapse of 2008. Maybe the AP will go to press with that!

BUY SPAM!


19 posted on 11/25/2007 1:57:33 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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Has everyone forgotten that mortgages are secured by hard assets

True. The lenders may have lent out $400,000 for that $200,000 house but, after foreclosure, the lender still has that $200,000 house.

20 posted on 11/25/2007 1:58:36 PM PST by Polybius
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To: jrsmc

The dollar will be just fine, and don’t worry about gold, the U.S. economy is backed up by another precious metal known as plutonium, stored safely and securely on ICBMs, SLBMs and cruise missles, not to mention B-1, B-2 and B-52 inventories.

I’m not worried.


21 posted on 11/25/2007 1:58:54 PM PST by mkjessup
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To: Larry Lucido; Toddsterpatriot; martin_fierro

22 posted on 11/25/2007 1:59:23 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal troika: romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: jrsmc
"We are going to see economic times the likes of which no living person has seen,".......

Well, that's a given, at least, unless there are people from the future among us.

23 posted on 11/25/2007 2:00:09 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: jrsmc

damn..... what ever happened to penny candy


24 posted on 11/25/2007 2:02:09 PM PST by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: jrsmc
It seems that two universes co-exist in some weird quantum mishmash.

Liberals, anti-victory moonbats, goldbugs, anti-American generalists, Islamofascists, and their fellow-travellers (sorry for so much redundancy) live in the universe where:
* the U.S. is an evil, all-powerful militarist empire;
* the U.S. cannot win any wars (doublethink is standard in this universe);
* the U.S. economy is too voracious, and needs to be reined-in by controls on CO2 emissions — or any other necessary means;
* the U.S. economy is not only weak, it’s rotten to the core, and about to collapse;
* the world is too dependent on U.S. trade — globalization is an evil force;
* the U.S. economy could completely collapse, and that would have no effect on the economy of Europe — whose currency would rise by an order-of-magnitude against the greenback;
* the route to peace and prosperity is through surrender and social welfare programs.

FReepers live in the other universe.

25 posted on 11/25/2007 2:03:54 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Glenn

Glenn wrote: “Hard assets with a capricious value.”

Not entirely capricious. The properties aren’t worthless simply because the mortgages are in default. Housing is typically expensive when it’s located in areas of high demand and low supply. The mortgage “crisis” isn’t necessarily going to change those fundamentals.


26 posted on 11/25/2007 2:04:12 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: jrsmc

just in time for Billary to come up with a spending plan to save us all


27 posted on 11/25/2007 2:04:30 PM PST by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: jrsmc

It could be possible. We should have never left the gold standard but what are you going to do. Take all your money out of the bank and bury it in the ground. Its already worthless.


28 posted on 11/25/2007 2:05:22 PM PST by Bailee
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“Take all your money out of the bank and bury it in the ground. Its already worthless.”

Or, better yet, buy SPAM!


29 posted on 11/25/2007 2:08:17 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: jrsmc
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30 posted on 11/25/2007 2:08:35 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I’d like to go back to the 1860’s, and clean up Dodge


31 posted on 11/25/2007 2:08:46 PM PST by sure_fine (• " not one to over kill the thought process " •)
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To: Petronski

Celente is/was a frequent guest on “Coast to Coast” with George Noori and Art Bell.Glad he’s on top of this situation and I got all my Gold Napoleons buried in the backyard.


32 posted on 11/25/2007 2:09:58 PM PST by Jan Hus
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To: Bailee

We should have never left the gold standard but what are you going to do. Take all your money out of the bank and bury it in the ground. Its already worthless.


Owing fold and other commodities is a perfectly effective way to preserve assets in such a scenario.


33 posted on 11/25/2007 2:10:28 PM PST by Beelzebubba ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: jrsmc
A financial crisis will likely send the U.S. dollar into a free fall of as much as 90 percent and gold soaring to $2,000 an ounce, a trends researcher said.

Is there anyone out there who'd like to put money on these numbers? If so, let me know.

34 posted on 11/25/2007 2:10:44 PM PST by econjack (If your only tool is a hammer, don't be surprised if all you problems look like a nail.)
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To: jrsmc

Get used to a solid year of these utterly fake VOTE FOR HILLARY OR WERE ALL GONNA DIE “news reports.”


35 posted on 11/25/2007 2:11:40 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (“If a tax cut increases government revenues, you haven’t cut taxes enough.” –Milton Friedman)
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“Dems and MSM are cranking up the doom & gloom.”

Yup ... complete with the weasel words

COULD, MAYBE, SHOULD ... .

YAAAAWWWWNNN


36 posted on 11/25/2007 2:12:29 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: jrsmc

No more Brie for the Big Mac.


37 posted on 11/25/2007 2:14:18 PM PST by RoadKingSE (How do you know that that light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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There’s an old song with the line,

“A piece of bread could buy a bag of gold,
I wish we’d all been ready.”


I think that second line is the actual title of the song. DCTalk did a remake of it a few years ago.


38 posted on 11/25/2007 2:14:28 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: jrsmc

We’re all gonna die!


39 posted on 11/25/2007 2:15:31 PM PST by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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Its down 50% more than negating our gains in everything else.

50% since when? Against what?

40 posted on 11/25/2007 2:16:43 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Glenn; crghill
Hard assets with a capricious value.

The houses are worth what the market is willing to pay.

On a different note, I really do not get why some folks think gold is a financial panacea. Gold is just another commodity, and it too can fluctuate in value. The notion that its value will continue to rise forever is the same sort of linear thinking that created the housing bubble.

41 posted on 11/25/2007 2:17:23 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * UVA Engineering * Today, we are all Hokies. Even at UVA. 04.16.07 * Fred 2008)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

“A piece of bread could buy a bag of gold,
I wish we’d all been ready.”

You can’t eat gold. That’s why the SPAM economy is our only hope in the upcoming crisis. At least you won’t go hungry.


42 posted on 11/25/2007 2:17:42 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: econjack
Is there anyone out there who'd like to put money on these numbers?

The only bet that I'm willing to take is that the Dow/Gold ratio will drop to 5 or less within 5 years or so.

Dow 10,000, Gold $2000 ?

43 posted on 11/25/2007 2:17:44 PM PST by jrsmc
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They’ll miss us when we’re gone.....who’ll protect them? Who’ll feed them? Who’ll give them medicine? sheesh....idiots.


44 posted on 11/25/2007 2:18:02 PM PST by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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Has everyone forgotten that mortgages are secured by hard assets

True. The lenders may have lent out $400,000 for that $200,000 house but, after foreclosure, the lender still has that $200,000 house.

In theory..., that is correct! However, I remember a friend of mine who, employed by a major lender in Central Florida, had his office walls lined with pictures of what was left when the lender finally repossessed homes!

All plumbing fixtures and wall/ceiling fixtures stripped out, water heaters gone, AC/Heating units gone, drywall ripped out so that copper wiring could be stripped, windows smashed! I won't even mention the plain old vandalism which had no profit motive at all!

Many of the lenders "repossessions" were sold for salvage/land value only EVEN THOUGH THE HOMES WERE ONLY ABOUT 5 YEARS OLD!

There will be many bargains for the ultimate purchasers but, the lenders (and most probably the taxpayers) will really take a hit!

45 posted on 11/25/2007 2:18:15 PM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
FReepers live in the other universe.

Not all of us.

46 posted on 11/25/2007 2:18:27 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: jrsmc
This is the start of a predictable long propaganda campaign by the democrat/Clinton controlled media of "OH MY GOD, we are all doomed. We need Hillary!"


47 posted on 11/25/2007 2:19:27 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (“If a tax cut increases government revenues, you haven’t cut taxes enough.” –Milton Friedman)
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To: jrsmc

If the dollar drops 90% in value, Gold would go to more like $8,000 an ounce. I guess that sounded too over the top for the article.


48 posted on 11/25/2007 2:19:39 PM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people. Socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: gondramB

“I am actually concerned about the dollar. Its down 50% more than negating our gains in everything else.”

Well, so am I to some extent.
When I first came to Slovakia in 2002, I got 48 Slovak korunas for one dollar. Today I would get less then 22 SK.

I am now waiting for my FIRST social security check which is said to be “in the mail”. It will be worth half what it would have been in 2002.
On the bright side, I am making money here in Slovakia, and paid in Slovak money.


49 posted on 11/25/2007 2:19:55 PM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: jrsmc

“Trends Research Institute Director Gerald Celente said, forecasting a “Panic of 2008.”

Would it be cynical to ask what he is selling?


50 posted on 11/25/2007 2:21:31 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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