Posted on 11/19/2007 10:49:55 AM PST by SJackson
The Ron Paul story never seems to end -- and yet never seems to quite make it into the mainstream media. That's because, in the political equivalent of a bank shot, Paul's fringe support helps bleach embarrassing stains from the Democrats.
First there is the revelation that Jim C Perry, the "Orthodox Jewish" head of "Jews for Paul" also calls himself a gay pagan Unitarian.
Now it turns out that Perry, Paul's point man in response to questions raised by the Jewish Telegraph Agency, is also accused of stealing money from the local New Hampshire branch of the Libertarian Party. What a great guy! It's only an accusation. And the "Libertarian" Perry was in 2006 running for New Hampshire Legislature as a Democrat.
Oh yes: Then the federal raids started.
It turns out that some folks actually buy-in to Ron Paul's blither about US dollars being "phony money". Here Paul is talking about "phony money" at a recent Ron Paul rally outside the Philadelphia Mint with a large crowd including -- surprise, surprise, -- some more white supremacists. (Who show they fully understand the New Orleans protocol.)
Some of Paul's gold bug supporters been trying to pass so-called "Liberty Dollars" off as real currency at stores nationwide. Sleepy clerks have given them change in US currency for purchases. Raids have been conducted in the last few days by the FBI and Secret Service at Liberty Dollar HQ in a strip mall office in Evansville, Indiana, (that's not where I would be keeping three pounds of gold, but I digress) as well as Asheville, NC (here the segregationist ‘Council of Conservative Citizens' is very concerned) and a private mint located in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. Arrests were also made recently in Wisconsin (on their blogsite, these geniuses detail three places where the spent Liberty Dollars as if they were legal tender). In 2006 two arrests had been made in Buffalo, NY. The Evanston raid netted a huge load of "Ron Paul Dollars" apparently just delivered from Idaho and backed perhaps by the full faith and credit of... Ron Paul?
Ron Paul's Evanston supporters went to Liberty Dollar HQ to protest with Ron Paul-for-president signs. At the Evansville Ron Paul site one of their leaders explains the defense strategy:
"I sent an email to infowars.com, so with any luck we'll make it on prisonplanet.com and go viral. If nothing else should come of this, maybe the LD can get a case before the Supreme Court and settle once and for all and maybe Ron Paul's name will be on more people's minds and lips."
And, yes Ron Paul donor 9-11 "troother" Alex Jones did post it. And it did go ‘viral'. But no that doesn't mean the 9-11 "troothers" are integral to the Ron Paul campaign because ...uh...uh... (insert Paulite rationalization here).
Meanwhile over at Reason Magazine, they seem to have lost all of theirs. Writes Jeff Taylor:
"As such, accounts of the (Evansville) raid focused on the Ron Paul angle seem off-base, at least given the available facts."
Sure, just close your eyes and it will all go away. Let yourself get sucked down the toilet with the frauds, and scammers. Reason wants us to believe that Ron Paul has absolutely nothing to do with Ron Paul dollars. But Paul's "troother" supporters believe that George Bush and ‘the Jooos' personally crawled through the ductwork at the World Trade Center to wire the explosives for controlled detonation.
Apparently they didn't get the message at the Daily Paul. Their response to the raid:
"This is pretty scary stuff and reminiscent of a time in Germany...I wonder if the motivation was our wonderful $4.3M day?"
The Street writes;
"...if the raid results in the conviction of anyone involved, it is possible that the Paul campaign may have to return a cash donation made by Liberty Dollar....So far, Liberty Dollar has donated $2,300 to the Paul campaign, a fact confirmed by both Paul's office and Bernard von NotHaus, who runs Liberty Dollar."
No connection there?
No tough questions for Paul, but plenty of fluff. Rolling Stone writes: "Republican takes the lead against the war." This comes after Bill Maher physically chased "troothers" from his studio audience October 19 shouting "out, out, out" and Bill Clinton stared down troother hecklers October 24 with: "An inside job? How dare you?"
The Democrats and their media are using the Paul campaign to scrape six years of accumulated "toother" scum off the Democrat Party, deposit it into the Libertarian movement make a little mess for the GOP. With Obama, Hillary and Edwards all refusing to promise to withdraw troops from Iraq by 2013 Democrats dream of losing the "surrender monkey" tag.
Here is a Chicago Tribune fluff piece with this gem of verbal judo:
"to a growing, Internet-based pool of supporters, the silver-haired obstetrician turned politician is the sanest man at the Republican debates and perhaps in all of Congress. Paul attracts an unusual political potpourri of people of all ages and viewpoints, including a sprinkling of conspiracy theorists and other extremists whose views Paul's campaign disavows."
No anti-Semites, KKKers, or FBI raids in sight anywhere -- just ‘conspiracy theorists'--but all neatly "disavowed." Really? Was that when Jesse Benton -- Ron Paul's national communications director -- said "I cannot say that we will be rejecting Mr. Black's (Stormfront) contribution?"
Well actually Ron Paul appears to be disavowing some contributions: those given by bankers and Wall Streeters. Corporate money is too dirty for Ron Paul to accept but KKK money is not?
The Chicago Tribune also offers this nugget:
"Paul appears financially comfortable but not exceedingly wealthy, according to filings with the Federal Election Commission. Most of his holdings are in about two dozen gold and silver firms, many valued at less than $15,000 and none valued at more than $250,000."
Do those firms benefit from the sale of Ron Paul Dollars? Of course they do; someone has to bring in the wrong way crowd to buy gold and silver at the top of the commodities cycle.
Meanwhile the mainstream media is mostly ignoring the cesspool of neo-Nazis, Klanners, Holocaust deniers, and gold-bugs-with-the-FBI-pounding-on-their-door, surrounding Paul. Why? The Democrats can unload some of their whack-job fringe to the GOP via Ron Paul and in their dreams, hang these nut jobs around the GOP's neck like a dead albatross. At the same time they assist Hillary or Obama in trying to move to the center for the general election.
Timing is everything. Paul has staked $1.1 million on the NH primary. His big fundraising push November 5 and now December 16 come conveniently before the Jan 1 reporting deadline. That deadline is too close to the Iowa and NH votes for evidence about Paul's supporters to make a difference.
The hard work is done. The information about Paul is on line neatly organized for even the laziest reporter in America to confirm, write up and look like a genius.
"As if Ron Paul's supporters needed any more motivation to storm the battlements and wreak havoc on the Republican presidential primary, now comes this: the feds are trying to take away their money."
Antonio Gramsci would be very proud.
He also happened to receive I believe $500 from some racist crackpot (again Dr. Paul's own words are the exact opposite of anything that idiot stands for) but yet for some reason the 'conservative' base isn't concerned where the money of Romney (how does my hair look?), St. Rudy (shall his name never be taken in vain), Fred (can I get a round of applause here?), or Hucklenut the Morality Crusader comes from. I'm quite sure those funds are coming from some rather interesting folks and quite a bit more than $500.
The only issue is that Dr. Paul rocks the boat and dares to bring up the fact this is not the nation the Framers gave us. And it upsets the sheep....
So what do we get? A flurry of half ass written 'news' reports about the 'evils' of Dr. Paul. Of course every one of Dr. Paul's positions can be traced back to the Constitution but he's still attacked because Heaven forbid Dr. Paul is calling for elimination of some rather sacred cows all the faithful have been brought up to believe is necessary. Which should tell us more about the state of this nation than where Dr. Paul stands.
Did you notice the article has absolutely nothing to do with its contents? These third-rate bloggers are getting kind of shrill, methinks.
Yeah but it drives their traffic up and makes them look important you know...at least in their own eyes. And frankly that's about all it is with these hacks
Your acting like Paul is a credible candidate will not make him credible or even sane. You can pretend all you want. Fact is, Paul is a political bottomfeeder with delusions of granduer. It is a shame that he is sapping energy that can be used to promote a viable candidate. He is being very selfish and pretending to be a contender. Huge ego trip for the odd little guy, I’m sure. But in reality Paul is a real bummer for the party and the country.
“.... Paul rocks the boat and dares to bring up the fact this is not the nation the Framers gave us.”
Yep - We have the Internet and electricity now and flush potties too. Our population is very different from the population the framers knew. Girls can wear pants instead of skirts and work outside the home and even fly airplanes! Slavery has been abolished and blacks can vote. We have trains, and planes and automobiles! The world is a much scarier place than it was in 1776. Ron Paul wants us to go back...No thanks, Ron. I like flush potties and electric lights!
I see. So because we've had technological advances and social advances we need more government to protect us. From what? Ourselves? Foreign boogeymen?
Oh my 'conservatism' has gone straight to the dogs hasn't it?
Over that last 200 or so years laws have been passed as our population has grown and technology has advanced. Step by step these laws were debated and passed by elected legislatures and signed by elected presidents and approved by federal judges...FOR THE PEOPLE. I supposed you would undo more than 200 years of legislation? Reinstate slavery? Take away women’s right to vote? Or will you pick and choose? (Well aren’t you special...) You cannot undo more than 200 years of living and existing as a country. We are not perfect, but we are America and we are better than the rest of the world.(People a still moving here by the millions.) Still we are always trying to be better. Paul would undo 200 years of our history - that is why he is wrong.
So because the 'New Deal' (repackaged socialism) was passed by 'elected legislatures' we should keep it? All those great government programs which have broken the back of our economy? How about the Progressive acts of the late 19th/early 20th? Making the market 'fair' instead of free?
As I've said today's 'conservatism' follows the view of the Framers in no fashion. Face it, you are advocating nothing but a 'living, breathing' Constitution. Taking up the banner of liberals.
Reinstate slavery? Take away women’s right to vote? Or will you pick and choose? (Well aren’t you special...)
How special, the red herring of slavery and women's suffrage. Because if I don't support the 98% of unconstitutional government surrounding me I must by default support putting people back into chains...although it would do to get rid of the 17th Amendment and put the power back in the hands of the separate and sovereign states.
Still we are always trying to be better.
So that's the moniker of today's progressive movement is it? Trying to do better? Just my opinion but you may want to work on a better catchphrase...
Paul would undo 200 years of our history
Again another misnomer. He would work to undo 200 years of unconstitutional government. The government is not history, the government is not the nation. The government is the government. And it's time to put it back in its place
I honestly never believed he would win and still think he's a longshot although the odds have certainly been reduced dramatically. I'm just glad that he's running to unite the libertarians & social conservatives & independents weary of the war together to defeat Hillary. Bottom line in their present form, the Republican Party's base is shrinking. They are outgunned by the Democrats in support and fundraising and libertarians/independents will just vote their usual 3rd party.
You can pretend all you want. Fact is, Paul is a political bottomfeeder with delusions of granduer.
Yeah, and all those volunteers and grassroots supporters he has. He ordered his Paulbots to spam some radio wave into their brains, right? Look, the man has support, there's no need to remain in denial.
I heard Tancredo and Paul are on good terms, no?
But Pauls support is not all Republican. It includes Libertarians, a grocery list of extremists, and Democrats who are working to undermine Republican efforts (Not exactly supporters that a Repulican should be bragging about.) Volunteers and grassroots supporters..... Right. Paul does not belong in the Repulican primary and debates. He is a libertarian.
Hillary’s “...Her negatives are too high so her people know that they need a 3rd party to get her elected and they’ll do whatever it takes to splinter the GOP vote. Ron Paul is a perfect candidate to be the useful idiot.”
This point was just made on another thread and needs to be repeated. Ron Paul will guarantee a Hillary victory.
Ron Paul is the Pat Buchanan/Ross Perot candidate of this election season. His supporters are equally indifferent to his effects and they’re indifferent as to how much he inspires America’s enemies.
And it does appear that Ron Paul inspires America’s enemies and the Democrats.
Ron Paul supporters are campaigning heavily against Fred Thompson by creating fake websites that bad-mouth and deride Fred. They create a site, then google-bomb it to push all positive articles and official Fred websites off into Google netherland so that they won’t be seen.
It’s one thing to run a positive campaign that supports your candidate, but it’s quite another when you spend all your time attempting to derail another candidate.
Ron Paul supporters and spammers have absolutely no class at all. They suk big time.
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