1 posted on
11/15/2007 5:26:12 AM PST by
js1138
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To: js1138
Whereas today, it has been dressed up in a lab coat and a mail order Ph.D. The author just lost all credibility, second paragraph in.
2 posted on
11/15/2007 5:29:10 AM PST by
Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
(Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
To: js1138
Id is basically nothing more than the correct claim that it is possible to describe a rational system for determining what could and could not arise in haphazard fashion.
You walk up to a Maserati Merak for instance, open the engine compartment (behind the driver) and look at all of those downdraft Webber carburators, velocity stacks, and other complex components and ask yourself the question: "Could this have just sort of happened, i.e. could the wind and rain just sort of blown all of this steel, aluminum, porcelin, rubber etc. into this sort of a thing by haphazard chance?"
And then you realize that the simplest one-celled animal on the planet is vastly more complex than the Maserati engine, and the conclusion is pretty obvious.
In other words, it's only for the purpose of arguing with extreme blockheads like evolutionites that anything as complicated as ID is needed. Most people grasp the idea easily enough.
To: js1138
A few short years ago, nobody had ever heard of Intelligent Design (ID).Right. Not even Leonardo da Vinci.
To: js1138
I’m no scientist, but even from the little I have read about ID I can tell that he hasn’t done his homework.
8 posted on
11/15/2007 5:43:47 AM PST by
Scarchin
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To: js1138
Yes, “Mindless Chaos” certainly makes much more sense on every level.
< /s >
Plus, it makes one feel so much better about one’s immorality and autonomous idiolatry.
11 posted on
11/15/2007 5:45:41 AM PST by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: js1138
If you want a pseudoscientific movement with no firm factual backing, but plenty of blind fealty and zealous agitprop, try Man-made Global Warming.
12 posted on
11/15/2007 5:46:26 AM PST by
SampleMan
(Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
To: js1138; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; curiosity
"To believe in both evolution and God is truly to believe in the marvel of marvels." Ping to an "ID" article with some "real meat on its bones"...
18 posted on
11/15/2007 5:55:38 AM PST by
TXnMA
("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
To: js1138
The author has not been touched by his noodelly appendage
20 posted on
11/15/2007 5:55:50 AM PST by
CzarNicky
(The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
To: js1138
Just like Mac Johnson writes in Human Events, most of the ID people here have the intellectual equivalent of bad breath. If these arm-chair scientists, or should I say cdesign proponetists, actually want to do science, they need to get off their asses and do more that shout ‘God did it’ and leave biology to people who know what they are doing. Creationists are a vocal minoity of Christians, an embarrassment to conservatives and are doing a fine job of helping conservatives lose elections.
25 posted on
11/15/2007 6:04:01 AM PST by
doc30
(Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
To: js1138
The Left believes, correctly, that Intelligent Design is a political loserWell, if the left hates it, then it must be a good thing.
By the way, I doubt that it is truly a 'political loser'. Most recent polls that I've seen (posted here on FR in fact) show that more Americans believe in ID or creationism than in evolution.
26 posted on
11/15/2007 6:04:16 AM PST by
MEGoody
(Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
To: js1138
Darwinism is the not science.
29 posted on
11/15/2007 6:08:08 AM PST by
drzz
To: js1138
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1925124/posts Was Hitler a Christian? [Dinesh D’Souza rebuts atheist canard]
Townhall ^ | November 5, 2007 | Dinesh D’Souza
Posted on 11/13/2007 9:33:06 AM PST by rhema
The Heavenly Father that created all souls sure allows more freedom of thought than those of the unholy TOE.
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To: js1138
The only “dumb” idea is the one that says that a single cell, with its mind-blowing complexity, managed to organized itself. There is no scientist, anywhere, who can begin to explain methodically how that happened, other than to spin “just so” stories.
47 posted on
11/15/2007 6:18:24 AM PST by
Elpasser
To: js1138
I was once informed that only 5% of the human brain is functioning, thus it may still be too early to draw conclusions. If true, with 95% still dormant it would appear that there is so much more to learn, and our future capabilities are way beyond our current comprehension. These ID vs. Evolution arguments/debates will continue for thousands of years. Some where in the very far future, long after we are all gone, man may have the answer. If they are producing/creating life in a laboratory now, what will they be producing 10,000 years from now? Will man eventually become God?
50 posted on
11/15/2007 6:20:05 AM PST by
Bringbackthedraft
(Staying home or voting 3rd Party, Elects Hillary!)
To: js1138
Elect a demorat before it is too late and get more:
Dead kids before they are born (abortion)
illegal criminal immigrants
tax your grandkids into socialism/communism/marxism or worse
free health care that you can not afford
road that are not save to travel on
cities that only criminals have guns
expect the abortion crowd to go after people over 60
... ...
51 posted on
11/15/2007 6:21:27 AM PST by
mountainlyons
(Hard core conservative)
To: js1138
69 posted on
11/15/2007 6:30:18 AM PST by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
To: js1138
Scientifically, attributing every aspect of biology to the arbitrary design of a divine tinkerer explains as much about biology as attributing the eruption of volcanoes to the anger of the Lava God would explain geology. Amen.
99 posted on
11/15/2007 7:40:02 AM PST by
GunRunner
(Thompson 2008 - Security, Unity, Prosperity)
To: js1138
One is that, even ten years ago, ID had enough confidence and honesty to go by its birth name, Creationism. Whereas today, it has been dressed up in a lab coat and a mail order Ph.D. and is trying to pass itself off as a scientific theory, thus the sudden re-branding as Intelligent Design. Perhaps this had something to do with the U.S. Supreme Court decision that banned creationism from classrooms.
Creationists had to come up with a new dodge, hence ID (an old and largely discarded idea) was dusted off, given a new coat of paint, and sent into the fray.
And ID has now been banned from the classroom by the recent Dover decision. What will we see next from the Dyscovery Institute? Stay tuned boys and girls, those lawyers and PR flacks will come up with something real soon now!
103 posted on
11/15/2007 7:54:54 AM PST by
Coyoteman
(Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
To: js1138
Excellent article! Thanks for posting.
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