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To: js1138
Whereas today, it has been dressed up in a lab coat and a mail order Ph.D.

The author just lost all credibility, second paragraph in.

2 posted on 11/15/2007 5:29:10 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Yeah. It’s a moronic piece. And obvious that he hasn’t read such things as No Free Lunch or just doesn’t care.


3 posted on 11/15/2007 5:31:22 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Here are some other funny excerpts, which explain a lot. My comments in brackets:
I, for one, have religiously ignored the topic before now. [Meaning, until the present, I have had no real idea what it was all about] I have done this partly out of a sort of professional courtesy to its supporters, with whom I share most other beliefs (and in many cases a personal affection), partly out of a belief that the idea was too obscure to argue over, [ an idea which he has just finished saying that he had religiously ignored until now] and partly because the idea is so patently ridiculous to me [patently ridiculous based on his studied ignorance of anything to do with it] that I felt that pointing this out would be somewhat akin to telling a friend that they have really, really bad breath. I mean - it would be an uncomfortable moment for both of us. But then how will they ever know, if I don’t tell them?

So in light of the issue’s new prominence and with a desire to improve the mental hygiene of others, I would just like to say that Intelligent Design is a really, really bad idea --scientifically, politically, and theologically. I say this as a dedicated conservative, who has on many occasions defended and espoused religion and religious conservatism. I also say it as a professional molecular biologist, who has worked daily (or at least week-daily) for years with biological problems [meaning he was born and bred in a particular theory and everything else looks ridiculous. Sort of like kids first realizing that meat was actually muscle or that it was sex between their parents that got them started] to which the theory of evolution has contributed significant understanding -- and to which Intelligent Design is incapable of contributing any understanding at all [all said, of course, on his professed ignorance of the subject and predisposition to discount it completely--and I, as a professional biologist who did his Ph.D. thesis work in the field of molecular neurobiology, can say that any of the mechanisms, genetics, and physiology of that field can be described, understood, and manipulated without any reference at all to its supposed evolutionary history. The most a discussion of evolutionary history contributes is on the level of "Hey, we see this cool gene here and it's so important to development, it must be evolutionarily conserved (an act of question-begging), so let's see where else it shows up! Hey, it shows up here and here and here, too! Wow, these things must all share a common ancestor or they wouldn't have this common feature (another exercise in question-begging)]

Scientifically, attributing every aspect of biology to the arbitrary design of a divine tinkerer [again he shows his ignorance of the subject as well as his prejudice] explains as much about biology as attributing the eruption of volcanoes to the anger of the Lava God would explain geology [Like Dawkins, he argues from a false analogy based on question-begging].
His piece isn't informative of anything but his ignorance and prejudice. It's a screed that uses his supposed conservative identity as a way of saying, "hey, pay no attention to that thing over there. You can believe me because I'm a conservative.
15 posted on 11/15/2007 5:49:29 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The author just lost all credibility, second paragraph in.

Yeah, but at least he provided us with the opportunity to promote Ben Stein's upcoming movie, 'Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed.' Can't wait to see it. 'Expelled' will be mandatory viewing in our homeschool. Take that!, know-it-all school boards of the world.

19 posted on 11/15/2007 5:55:47 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
"The author just lost all credibility, second paragraph in.”

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Name ten scientists with earned PhDs from reputable universities who are currently employed doing recognizably substantial, peer-reviewed work in the biological sciences --and who also publish in favor of "intelligent design".

Can't? Name five.

O.K., Name one.

28 posted on 11/15/2007 6:06:42 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The out-and-out lie the sentence before that was enough to lose me (but I went back to find where yours was since I didn’t recall it...)
179 posted on 11/16/2007 6:03:39 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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