Posted on 11/09/2007 6:51:51 AM PST by HD1200
The 2008 Democratic candidates are beholden to a "hyper-partisan, politically paranoid" liberal base that could endanger the final nominee's chances of winning next year's presidential election, Joe Lieberman, the former vice-presidential Democratic candidate, said yesterday.
In his most outspoken attack on fellow Democrats since he was unsuccessfully challenged last year by Ned Lamont, a liberal Democrat, for his Senate seat in Connecticut, Mr Lieberman yesterday said he might not vote for the Democratic presidential nominee next year.
(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...
Lieberman is the Dems worst nightmare: a dem that they cannot control.
Lieberman is correct. The same could be said about certain Republicans, though our problems tend more to demands for ideological purity than outright insanity.
What Lieberman is doing -- consciously or not -- is laying the foundation for the "vast moderate middle" party that will probably coalesce within the next 10 years or so.
There will be a rump Democrat party, and a rump Republican party, and of these the Republican version will be somewhat larger and more viable.
No, hes liberal leaning and a patriot. And patriotic is not allowed in the liberal tent, remember, America is the worst place on the world.
He essentially said "...the Democratic leadership seems to be more concerned how the [Bush Adminstration] is going to militarily respond toward Iran for killing our soldiers...than they are..well, for killing our soldiers."
Liebermann should know. THe kook fringe dumped him in the primary, but he won as an independent. The overall voting population is not enamoured by the moon bat fringe, but they are the squeaky wheel in the dem party.
It’s incredible that there isn’t a Democrat with Scoop Jackson’s personality and resume’ that can come out and take the party away from the Clintons and the kooks on the Left.
“Lieberman is the Dems worst nightmare: a dem that they cannot control.”
But, it must be very liberating for Joe to be able to speak his mind and not be beholden to the RAT party anymore!
Joe better watch his back! What he’s saying is punishable by death! err... umm, suicide!
It's not really all that incredible. The Dems have been painting themselves into a corner since before Reagan was president.
The strength of the old Democrat party was that it was largely populist. Not that their policy prescriptions were necessarily correct, but their focus was on populist issues, and because of that their policies were somewhat rooted in the real world.
Beginning in the '60s, and accelerating rapidly in the 80s, the Democrats became much more "process-oriented," in the sense of using political processes to gain power. This is the approach created by Saul Alinski, and it's not a coincidence that Hillary Clinton happened to have written her thesis on him. Alinski had a profound effect on Democrat strategy.
The net effect of their new focus on process was that they lost the bead on their populist roots, because process doesn't require "people," except as marketing targets. Rather, a "process approach" to politics demands three things: money, activists, and media.
Watergate and Vietnam gave them the media. Money and activists, though....
Well, those come from unions and highly motivated single-issue groups, such as the pro-aborts. And as a result, those groups and their issues began to take control of the process within the Democrat party, which imposed a serious ideological filter on their approach to process.
This ideological filtering extends to candidate selection. Over time, those with a more common-sense populist approach were no longer among the approved candidates, and the concentration of ideological purity increased to the point where you get Nancy Pelosi as Speaker.
To compare Pelosi to Tip O'Neill, is to understand the pernicious change that has taken place among the Democrats.
Meanwhile, those who would have continued the Democrats' populist approach have been filtered out. I think most of those didn't become Republicans -- I think they just withdrew from politics altogether. They're out there in the huge mass of people who no longer pay attention to politics.
Eventually, somebody will figure out how to tap into that group. Not this year -- the political process for both parties is being driven by activists -- but I suspect it will be soon.
Great! Then when is he going to admit that he handed the Senate to the RATS! Can't have it both ways.
The 2008 Democratic candidates are beholden to a "hyper-partisan, politically paranoid" liberal base that could endanger the final nominee's chances of winning next year's presidential election, Joe Lieberman, the former vice-presidential Democratic candidate, said yesterday. In his most outspoken attack on fellow Democrats since he was unsuccessfully challenged last year by Ned Lamont, a liberal Democrat, for his Senate seat in Connecticut, Mr Lieberman yesterday said he might not vote for the Democratic presidential nominee next year.
Lieberman Blasts Democrats Over Partisan-Driven Foreign Policy
FoxNews.com | Nov 8, 2007 | Fox News
Posted on 11/08/2007 4:51:06 PM EST by vietvet67
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923007/posts
Lieberman Lashes Out at Democrats
The New York Sun | 11/9/07 | Eli Lake
Posted on 11/09/2007 7:57:27 AM EST by StatenIsland
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923279/posts
Say It’s So, Joe (Lieberman)
Yahoo News | November 9, 2007 | William Kristol
Posted on 11/09/2007 9:18:19 PM EST by Clintonfatigued
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923643/posts
Lieberman’s Long View
New York Sun | 10/9/07 | editorial
Posted on 11/09/2007 11:10:37 PM EST by AmericanExceptionalist
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923679/posts
Joe Lieberman, patriot
Jewish World Review | Nov. 13, 2007 | Cal Thomas
Posted on 11/13/2007 11:05:41 AM EST by rhema
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1925085/posts
found the full text in a couple of spots, via Google:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1f8eee44-8e67-11dc-8591-0000779fd2ac.html
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/47906f84-8e2c-11dc-8591-0000779fd2ac.html
[snip] Mr Lieberman called on Democrats to follow the words of Arthur Vandenberg, the mid-20th century US senator, who said that politics should “stop at the water’s edge”. Before voting, Mr Lieberman said he would first assess each nominee’s platform - “just like any other voter would”. [end]
Vandenberg was a Grand Rapids boy; there’s a bronze statue of him by McCay Tower, which building stands on the site of Louis Campau’s house.
Lieberman is a liberal, but he supported the war on terror and he supports Israel, I’ll give him credit for that. I told a friend of mine recently that the only way I’d ever even consider a Democrat Party candidate was if someone like Harry Truman, Zell Miller, or Scoop Jackson was running. In this day and age, the rad-lib wing that controls the Democrats would regard Truman, Miller, or Jackson as right wing fascists.
That’s some hyperlink!
I agree with Joe Lieberman on a lot of things, but the guy is looking more and more, like a spineless hypocrite.
If he had the principles he (pretends) to have, he would switch parties. No complaining. No theatrics.
We wake up next Monday, and Fox Business Channel - is gonging the breaking news alert. Accompanied by a photo titled: Joseph Lieberman (R).
Otherwise, frankly Lieberman is just a whiner. Nothing more.
What? You mean they weren’t? ;’)
;’) I could hear Truman now, talking about the current crop of rad-lib “democrats”.....Truman was a magnificent cusser, and he’d have the air turning about six shades of blue! My favorite anecdote about him was when he started giving that heathen pig Molotov who-for and what-not just after WW2 when the bolshies were sabotaging previous agreements to hold free elections in Poland. Molotov got his red drawers in a knot and said to Truman “I’ve never been talked to like that”. Truman, good Southern Baptist Missourian that he was snapped right back “keep your agreements and you won’t get talked to like that.”
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