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Unsafe politically at any speed ... (driver's licenses for illegal aliens - political poison)
Wash Times ^ | November 6, 2007 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 11/06/2007 4:47:29 AM PST by IrishMike

Wherever it's been tried, embracing driver's licenses for illegal aliens — as Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and most of the Democratic presidential field did last week — has been political poison, including helping cost one Democratic governor his office.

Ever since the September 11 terrorist attacks, lawmakers who back licenses for illegal aliens have suffered, such as Gray Davis, the former California governor who was recalled in part because he signed such a bill. Those who have called for crackdowns are reaping the political rewards.

"It's a winner in a general election; I think it's an absolute winner in a Republican primary; and I think it's a winner even in many states in a Democratic primary," said Rico Oller, the former California state senator who sponsored the bill to repeal the driver's license law Mr. Davis signed.

The issue has come to the fore since New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, a Democrat, announced in September that his state would begin to issue licenses to illegal aliens who could present a valid passport from their home country. At last week's Democratic debate, Mrs. Clinton fumbled on whether she supported her governor, but a day later her campaign announced she generally backs the plan.

"We broadly support what Spitzer is doing," said spokesman Phil Singer. "Obviously, there are details that still need to be worked out, but our sense is that in light of the Bush administration's failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform and deal with the immigration crisis, there are many states that are acting."

Her stance has won her support from those who say it's time to retake the initiative after years of setbacks.

"All the candidates are either avoiding the issue or only addressing it partially or jumping on the anti-immigrant bandwagon," said Chung-Wha Hong

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; clinton; congress; democratparty; democrats; electionpresident; elections; eliotspitzer; gop; hillary; immigrantlist; immigration; newyork; ny

1 posted on 11/06/2007 4:47:30 AM PST by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike
"All the candidates are either avoiding the issue or only addressing it partially or jumping on the anti-immigrant bandwagon," said Chung-Wha Hong, executive director of the New York Immigration Coalition. "The driver's license issue has hurled this challenge to the forefront of the presidential debate."

I hope and pray that this will become the defining issue in 2008. The majority of Americans are on our side regardless of party. The issue has to be framed properly and the public educated about immigration issues.

2 posted on 11/06/2007 4:56:03 AM PST by kabar
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To: IrishMike
Proof positive that the Democrats and SOME Republicans like Dubya, John McCain, etc. are totally out of touch with what American citizens want --> Illegal aliens deported from the USA.

Additionally, while American citizens are waiting for this to happen, they want ALL illegal aliens off welfare of any kind, out of our schools, out of our emergency rooms and hospitals, etc.

NO driver's licenses for illegal aliens... no voting rights either... next protest by these parasites, most Americans would like to see them picked up and deported.

Illegal aliens have NO rights in this country. Their anchor babies need to be defined as their dependents. ONLY Americans and legal immigrants offspring should be automatic Americans if they're born in the USA.

So, polititians better wise up real quick... or they will find themselves VERY disappointed on election day.

Even my liberal family and friends in MA want these people gone!!!!

3 posted on 11/06/2007 5:05:07 AM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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Well if you listened to Hillary’s reply she said that it was due to George Bush’s failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform in the congress. It was so easy in past years to blame every act of nature on Bush, so now they have the congress they make believe they are still running in the minority and evil George Bush is running things. The media is also claiming this, so rats have no responsibility either way.


4 posted on 11/06/2007 5:06:03 AM PST by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: IrishMike

Oh bull freakin shiat it is about driver safety. It is about Motor Voter, plain and simple. Repeal Motor Voter and see if the guv is still hot to trot about illegals getting licenses. Yeah, I thought so.


5 posted on 11/06/2007 5:11:10 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: sickoflibs
Well if you listened to Hillary’s reply she said that it was due to George Bush’s failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform in the congress

Listening to Hillary is your first mistake. Her statement can easily be refuted. Take a look at the votes in the Senate in 2006 and 2007 and you will see that the vast majority of Dems voted for the bill joined by a minority of Reps. Bush has provided some cover to the Dems on this issue, but he would have signed the bill if it had emerged from Congress. Bush was sticking a finger in the eye of the majority of his own party. The GOP position is where the vast majority of Americans stand on the issue.

6 posted on 11/06/2007 5:16:43 AM PST by kabar
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I am not arguing for the amnesty bill or agreeing with GWB on it.

I am saying HRC blames GWB for not passing it, claiming it would solve all the illegal problems. They ran last year claiming they would get things done, now they act like they are still the minority and have no power and need more votes to pass “Americas’s” agenda. They act like they never won and have no responsibility for their failures.

One way to cause trouble for democrats is ironically join Code Pink and challenge Democrats (as a liberal) on supporting Hillary for not being a true liberal. Too Cynical?? Well they do anything to win and it is working.

7 posted on 11/06/2007 5:30:15 AM PST by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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“Ever since Sept 11, lawmakers who back licenses for illegal aliens have suffered, such as ex-Cali Gray Davis who was recalled in part because he signed such a bill. Those who have called for crackdowns are reaping the political rewards. “

Eight of the hijackers were registered to vote in American elections. Under federal "motor voter" law, anyone receiving a driver's license automatically may register to vote. Nothing prevents illegal aliens from voting in American elections. Yet, Hillary Clinton thinks we should give driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

8 posted on 11/06/2007 5:55:04 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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Maybe Hillary and many other liberals are listening to
Rep Osama Bin laden- D Afghanistan.
9 posted on 11/06/2007 5:57:11 AM PST by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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Heheh——getting their “orders.”


10 posted on 11/06/2007 6:24:49 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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The Democrats are tone deaf on the issue of illegal immigration. They don't realize the American people don't support the Open Borders agenda.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 11/06/2007 6:52:30 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Liz

” Eight of the hijackers were registered to vote in American elections. Under federal “motor voter” law, anyone receiving a driver’s license automatically may register to vote. Nothing prevents illegal aliens from voting in American elections. Yet, Hillary Clinton thinks we should give driver’s licenses to illegal aliens. “

Very important point to make!!!

Spitzer’s plan is a plan to give backdoor voting to illegal aliens and even terrorists.
It is such a terrible idea any patriot should be shocked at it.

We have to hit home how wrong this is, and YET ... New York jumped on board only after Maryland started doing the same.

There is a Democrat agenda at work to destroy our immigration laws for the sake of their partisan gain. It must be stopped.


12 posted on 11/06/2007 6:59:49 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism, pro-US-sovereignty)
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To: xtinct
Proof positive that the Democrats and SOME Republicans like Dubya, John McCain, etc. are totally out of touch with what American citizens want...

They're not out of touch. They know the American people are against this but they don't care. They have an agenda that includes the formation of a North American Union and they are going to cram it down our throats whether we like it or not.

Get ready for the New World Order coming soon to the nation formerly known as the U.S.A.
13 posted on 11/06/2007 7:02:24 AM PST by The Lumster (USA - where the innocent have nothing to fear!)
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14 posted on 11/06/2007 8:22:52 AM PST by Gritty (She is a nasty woman. Nobody will out-mud the Clintons - Newt Gingrich)
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ping


15 posted on 11/06/2007 9:07:52 AM PST by gubamyster
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Elliot Spitzer to her left is just as nasty,
in your face nasty .... the steam roller.


16 posted on 11/06/2007 9:26:46 AM PST by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: goldstategop

They don’t realize the American people don’t support the Open Borders agenda.
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I actually think they do realize, BUT they need the votes.
Illegal aliens are the future of the Democrat party.
They have not won a national election with a majority since that peanut farm traitor Carter.


17 posted on 11/06/2007 9:31:16 AM PST by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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What the politicians don’t understand, the fabric of the USA stands on the rule of law. Legalize the illegals by a stroke of the pen and there will be a revolt they have never seen before.


18 posted on 11/06/2007 9:39:59 AM PST by DownInFlames (,)
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