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Joyce Meyer Ministries is a target of GOP senator's probe
St. Louis Post Disgrace ^ | 11/6/2007 | Diedre Sheesgreen

Posted on 11/06/2007 4:41:44 AM PST by Clintons Are White Trash

WASHINGTON — The top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee has launched a wide-ranging investigation into the financial dealings of six TV evangelists, including Joyce Meyer, the popular preacher who has built a $124-million-a-year empire headquartered in Fenton.

On Monday, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, asked Meyer to provide his staff with documents detailing the finances of the Joyce Meyer Ministries, including the religious group's compensation to Meyer, her husband and other family members, as well as an accounting of their housing allowances, gifts and credit card statements for the last several years.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 110th; fleecingtheflock; gop; grassley; joycemeyerconartist; meyer; ministries; ministry; probe; religion; relirion; senator; televangelists
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To: AprilfromTexas

I would definitely say it’s pot calling kettle black. Politicians and televangelists have a lot in common. Both want your money for questionable reasons.


181 posted on 11/06/2007 5:18:18 PM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: GOPPachyderm
I understand where you are coming from. And I don’t profess to have all the inside dope. Nor do I think that the ministry is perfect. I think I would do some things differently, for sure. As I mentioned earlier, she is sometimes slow on the draw, but she does eventually get the stupid thing out, puts in her bullet, hits the target. Then she has to shoot down another of her poor decisions, going thru the same routine.

What she does not do, at least in my experience, is refuse to fix something once she knows it needs fixing.

Her employees don’t have to work there. They choose to, and evidently the price is right. However, perception matters. Joyce Meyer needs to address the basis of that perception and, if merited, alter that basis.

I, for one, am not going to sit in judgement on her. I will judge her actions here, however, as to their propriety. I will base subsequent decisions upon that basis.

I will also allow for the fact that she is not perfect, and may, in fact, get some things wrong.

What I don’t have to do, and won’t do, is react solely on the fact that a politician has found an opportunity to get some ink, or on the rags that “without bias” report(?) the ensuing “facts”.

182 posted on 11/06/2007 5:50:39 PM PST by pilipo
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

It’s obviously wrong what these sheisters are doing, but it’s hard to feel too sorry for the folks that keep throwing their hard-earned money at people like Hinn and Meyer so that they can emulate Jesus by buying marble toilet seats and getting face lifts. There’s a sucker born every minute, I guess.


183 posted on 11/06/2007 5:53:23 PM PST by BearArms (Arm yourself because no one else here will save you)
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To: Terriergal

I do not disagree with your premise. I do not agree with your assumptions.

I will agree that we do disagree, but not that we agree to disagree.


184 posted on 11/06/2007 5:53:43 PM PST by pilipo
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To: iowamark

Garner Ted, Rex, Oral....times don’t change, only the people do.


185 posted on 11/06/2007 6:04:39 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
Some of these guys are pretty blatant scams and need to be taken down. But the big fear is that once the state gets a taste for this, where will they stop?
186 posted on 11/06/2007 6:08:53 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash; Thinkin' Gal
Huh? Since when is it the business of the government how a ministry operates???

It's in their interest to probe every dollar circulating that hasn't made it into their greedy fat sweaty hands

187 posted on 11/06/2007 6:10:48 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Meyer, Osteen, and Warren ... sounds like an antiChrist’s legal team.


188 posted on 11/06/2007 6:12:51 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Guenevere
Very strange, this....Why Grassley?

The slimy lying cheating politicians who steal from us daily are not happy that the ministries are not required to court them with lobbyists and donations. They want their cut of the pie out there.

I know they're not doing this out of concern for me, the taxpayer.

189 posted on 11/06/2007 6:17:32 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Theo

Would you agree that a ministry (thew tax exempt org) ought not be buying multi-thousand dollar toilets and furnishings? I can see paying Meyer a salary, even an excessive one, form which she can spend as she sees fit. But the tax exepmt org ought be more fiscally accountable.


190 posted on 11/06/2007 6:24:57 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: F15Eagle
No doubt I’ll get flamed but this clearly antichrist religion is a lot more well-funded and where do we think that money comes from, goes to and for what purpose?

Maybe if Joyce preached and dressed like this, they'd send her a billion instead of investigating her.


191 posted on 11/06/2007 6:29:09 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: pilipo
I do not disagree with your premise. I do not agree with your assumptions.

What assumptions?

192 posted on 11/06/2007 6:34:43 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Maybe if Joyce preached and dressed like this, they'd send her a billion instead of investigating her.

Maybe but I don't know if that outfit comes with rhinestones.

193 posted on 11/06/2007 6:35:26 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: caseinpoint

What you said.


194 posted on 11/06/2007 6:37:03 PM PST by Chaguito
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To: MHGinTN

I don’t know any details, but it does seem excessive at first glance.

I wonder if the ministry really in fact bought a multi-thousand dollar toilet, or if something’s been lost in the translation. Where’s the original reference for the toilet, anyway?

It’s good to be sceptical when high-profile Christians are trashed.

That said, it sure would be good for her ministry to become a member of the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability (ECFA).


195 posted on 11/06/2007 6:45:50 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
... $23,000 on a toilet seat ...

Do you have a reference for that? Or are you lying about it?

The truth may be offensive enough. No need to lie about someone to make them look worse, Thinkin' Gal.

196 posted on 11/06/2007 6:48:37 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Terriergal

a) (and she isn’t, she is preaching the Word Faith heresy)

b) then nothing she does is good, no matter how it looks to the world.


197 posted on 11/06/2007 6:50:50 PM PST by pilipo
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To: Hoodlum91; AprilfromTexas

I do like the question that Sen. Grassley asked, what is a tax-exempt purpose of these expensive items? What is the justification for that sort of item? Small churches are struggling to survive and this makes it more difficult for all those legitimate churches.


199 posted on 11/06/2007 6:52:05 PM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: pilipo
a) (and she isn’t, she is preaching the Word Faith heresy) b) then nothing she does is good, no matter how it looks to the world.

Those are not assumptions. They are easily verified. b flows from a which is public knowledge.

200 posted on 11/06/2007 6:52:20 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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