Posted on 10/24/2007 5:13:08 AM PDT by UKrepublican
You can leave Christianity out of it completely. Homosexual behavior is in complete defiance of natures intended design, period. It’s an unnatural act, unnatural behavior, self destructive, and destructive to the species in general.
nature guards against these kinds of abominations, which is why diseases like aids, rectal cancers etc. crop up. Left to run it’s course, nature will restore it’s natural order, and dictate natural behavior.
Animals are even smart enough to instinctively obey natures laws, Humans for some reason can’t. They can and do actually, but perversion and selfish desire, political correctness and greed for power overrides natural instinct and common sense natural laws.
I agree that homosexuality is like contraception: it's the choice of unnaturally sterile intercourse for the sake of bodily pleasure and (sometimes) for pair-bonding. But I agree in a contrary sense, as I am convinced that gays and contraceptors are choosing similarly immoral behavior.
Actually, I can't. You recognize that humans "for some reason" act against their own good. So, what is the reason?
Or do they hate Christianity because they love this “alternate life style”? YES
Do they want the human race to become extinct? YES
Do they want to destroy the family and have all births be by test tube? YES
Any more questions?
How is this NOT a human rights violation?
You are totally right. The religious arguement against homosexuality is just one arguement that can be put.
It’s actually simple common sense which dictates that homosexual ‘culture’ and lifestyle is irational, destructive, and self-obsessive.
It goes against the positive aspects of society.
If so, then the Pro-Family agenda against that rubbish would likely serve well any party or candidacy willing to really advocate and advance it.
Who's prominent on the British Right that makes the Pro-Family/Traditional Values case well?
Well, I wouldn’t say there is any major ‘pro homosexual’ activism in the UK as such, although in replacement of this, probably worse in fact is that we have plenty of do gooder politicians who actively push this agenda.
Personally speaking, I don’t have any paticular dislike of gay people, although I am opposed to gay marriage and generally speaking gay adoption also.
Here is a good source for you:
http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/policy.php?id=826&display=comparison
Notice, most that are generally in opposition are Conservatives, as you would expect, but notice more importantly that generally speaking the Lords provides the strongest opponents to the ‘equal rights’ agenda.
“Well, I wouldn’t say there is any major ‘pro homosexual’ activism in the UK as such, although in replacement of this, probably worse in fact is that we have plenty of do gooder politicians who actively push this agenda.”
It appears from all I read of the cultural demise in the UK that there is indeed strong, well-oiled activism at work there. My thoughts are based upon what I read in well articulated opinions of C of E leaders from different perspectives as well as other articles from the Motherland
Well, in fairness I live here, and I know for a fact 99% of the activism is do gooder politicians scrounging for votes which is why we have had within the last 10 years a considerable liberalisation of the laws - such as the lowering of the age of consent in line with hetrosexuals, 16, and also more recently civil unions.
The C of E hasn’t exactly been pro active or nearly outspoken enough on the issue.
As for ‘cultural demise’ this is often well overstated in the foreign press, and is really a major overeaction.
The majority of the Daily Mail/Express articles you probably read are gross exagerations and while there certainly is a problem over here I won’t deny, it is a problem repeated in most other western democratic nations including the US.
The majority of the time it is an ‘isolated’ case where some PC zealot thug is causing the problem - in which case it is fairly easy to rectify and thankfully the mainstream printed press is on the right side!
If so, then the Pro-Family agenda against that rubbish would likely serve well any party or candidacy willing to really advocate and advance it.
Who's prominent on the British Right that makes the Pro-Family/Traditional Values case well?
Thanks for your response. In America the homosexual community is a well-funded/organized faction that forms law advocacy groups, homosexual business directories, career-advancement groups in many career fields to the exclusion of non-homosexuals, and homosexual political PACs. And pushes for pro-homosexual indoctrination programs in the public/government primary and secondary schools, often at taxpayers' expense. I'm surprised if your country hasn't been experiencing something similar.
And I think 'faction' is the right term, i.e. working for their own gain at the relative expense of others. (e.g. undermining the 'freedom of non-association' that's everyone's natural right in matters of employment, housing rental, etc.) Generally the pro-homosexual faction seems to operate as part of the roughly 'anti-whitemalestraightchristian' coalition.
None of this familiar over there?
The “pro-family” forces are outside the mainstream and somewhat out of politics.
They prefer to be in “spiritual activities.”
There are some celebrities who have the ability to make a splash if they come out against the repressive policies in place or likely to come.
But the PC media, etc. will crush them if they raise their voices.
Its gotten so bad that the liberal church leaders are concerned about what’s happening with the Sexual Orientation Regulations. The Catholic Church is concerned, too.
Muslims seem to be a big question mark, here. I think they are in with Left or too busy trying to tear down the democratic system to care about public opposition to the imposition of homosexuality.
There are some MPs and some members of the House of Lords who oppose this crap, but they are definitely a minority.
thanks, it’s good info and appreciate it
haven’t been home since the mid-1700’s
No problem FRiend.
Thats a long time ago, must seem like a foreign country today.
Best wishes.
Not to as great an extent.
This may be because our laws are already far more liberal than yours on this matter.
There certainly are gay rights groups out there, you must surely have heard for example of Peter Tatchell a very well known campaigner on the subject.
The problem here is that social issues like abortion, gay marriage are not considered as important as they are in the States.
In the US you have two very clear sides ‘going at it’ for want of a better term, whereas here, you have a gay rights groups that aren’t really taken too seriously by the political establishment and a few voices within the Lords as my link showed and the odd voiced opinion from the church again, neither of which are taken too seriously.
The whole gay liberalisation of the late 90’s early 00’s was part of the new labour ‘cool britannia’ drive.
An openly gay Republican is near enough unheard of in the US, but over here, the Conservative Party has several homosexual politicians, some serving in very senior positions.
As I’ve said, I don’t paticuarly have a problem with gay people, I’m not going to preach to them, so long as they don’t get into any position where they can to me - and thankfully that situation hasn’t really arisen.
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