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Warning: Fun ahead -- Safety first, yes, but today's overprotected kids need to live a little
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 10/19/7 | Peter Hartlaub

Posted on 10/19/2007 7:33:32 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: SmithL
I grew up in a semi-rural area. Memories of standing on the running board of a tractor holding onto a farmer as he drove it; of course if I had fallen off when we hit a bump I would have been crushed. By the time I was 10 I was driving the tractor myself. We also rode in the open loadbed of pickup trucks or standing up in the back of stock trailers. Rode horses all over the landscape alone, no cell phones, no one knew where I was going because I never knew where I was going until I got there. Jumping horses over insane objects (like baling machines and old cars). Swimming in farm ponds with no one around. If my mother had known any of this she would have gone mad; she usually was pretty upset about me riding alone and got sick of going to the emergency room, so I decided it would be better for her heart if she didn't know most of it. I don't know why I'm still alive, frankly, but I did have a great childhood.

Today I do let my kids have some fun and try not to notice when they're being crazy. I'm sure I don't know half of what goes on. My son came in covered with road rash from some stupid experiment with a bike the other day and I wondered how many experiments had gone on when I wasn't here.

21 posted on 10/19/2007 8:00:33 AM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: SmithL

The other day I saw a boy wearing a helmet while riding a scooter. That is, a non-motorized toy/vehicle with two wheels, handlebars, and about as much space for standing on it as a small skateboard offers. You stand on it with one foot and propel yourself with the other foot.
It would seem to me that a horse is a lot more dangerous, but so far nobody’s helmeted for that. (Outside of sports and the attendant regulations.)


22 posted on 10/19/2007 8:01:28 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Call me a pro-life zealot with a 1-track mind.)
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To: reagan_fanatic
"There were monkey bars, tether balls, angled metal slides and teeter-totters, and it was dirt and grass we played on top of, not rubber or wood chips."

Every summer I take my kids to visit their grandparents in Michigan. We enjoy going over to the playground at my old elementary school and climbing around on the equipment. I remember fondly two sets of monkey bars from when I was a kid in the early 60's. They were metal, and had been painted over dozens of times. They had a very distinctive smell in the summer heat - a mix of metallic smell, paint, and sweaty handprints from generations of kids. This past summer I was dismayed to see that the monkey bars had been removed. One more loss of innocent childhood fun. I'm sure it was some over-protective idiot who decided they were too risky, because I guarantee you, they didn't "break".

23 posted on 10/19/2007 8:03:18 AM PDT by Think free or die
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To: SmithL

ping


24 posted on 10/19/2007 8:04:28 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: cyclotic
I’m a firm believer in bike helmets, but that’s it.

Yep. My 12 year old nephew was killed because he rode his bike without a helmet. He was sideswiped by a truck and hit his head on the curb. If he'd been wearing his helmet he would have walked away with a headache. My sister-in-law (his mother) is no longer suicidal but will never recover from the guilt and grief. And the rest of us miss him every day.

25 posted on 10/19/2007 8:07:29 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: jalisco555

I think there are a lot of posters here who have never lost a child due to an easily preventable accident.


26 posted on 10/19/2007 8:10:09 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: SledgeCS
LOL - I remember the fumes, too! The wagon had a rear-facing bench seat, so when we went somewhere we would all sit in the back. It had an electric rear window which half the time would slip out of the track and get stuck.

It was a blast sitting back there though, because every time the station wagon would hit a good-sized bump, we'd bounce up off the seat and bonk our heads on the roof!
27 posted on 10/19/2007 8:12:35 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: Condor51

Yep, all of the above.

We also chewed this horrible, nasty tasting, government issue glue, it was a cool texture, who knows what was in that! We had black walnut fights until the doctors daughter got a black eye.

In the summer, we played until late at night throughout the neighborhood.

Fire was my favorite toy.


28 posted on 10/19/2007 8:13:32 AM PDT by tiki
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To: reagan_fanatic
angled metal slides

...man those things would get hot in summer, I suffered many a burn and then damaged knees from jumping off

29 posted on 10/19/2007 8:14:37 AM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: cspackler

My grandkids went to a really cool daycare this summer. They rode horses and donkeys, there were all kinds of animals and growing things, they had to keep the place clean. It had tree houses and all kinds of things, they popped out of bed every morning excited and ready to get there already.


30 posted on 10/19/2007 8:18:44 AM PDT by tiki
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

“The other day I saw a boy wearing a helmet while riding a scooter.”

I see kids on trikes and training-wheel bikes with helmets on sometimes. The funny thing is, they are closer to the ground and going slower than if they were walking at a good pace. It’s just getting silly.


31 posted on 10/19/2007 8:25:50 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: tuffydoodle
There surely is a balance to be found. Our sons wear their helmets when they bike, and padding when they skate. They also play in the stream, get muddy, go camping, backpacking, and generally "messing around". Our older son went backpacking in New Mexico this summer at the Philmont Scout Ranch. I wasn't too happy to hear about his close encounter with a black bear, hiking in a hailstorm, or blowing up butane lighters and worse, but I would never have denied him the experience.

Every other year we spring for tuition at a summer camp in New England. The boys go for 7 weeks of grand fun and independence. I miss them, but the growth in their independence is a joy, and it gives them a break from their protected suburban existence.

32 posted on 10/19/2007 8:26:29 AM PDT by Think free or die
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To: Fairview

OMG, your post reminded me of the day my 8 yr old (at the time) son went to friend’s house. They had a teenage babysitter and she was in the house watching TV. My son, his 9 yr old mentally deficient friend and his 7 and 5 yr old sisters decided to drive a tractor to the neighbor’s house to play.

It was an old tractor with no fenders, just a platform with a seat and barely enough room for the other 3 to stand. The exposed wheels turning could have gotten any of them!

That was bad enough but they made it the 2 miles to the neighbor’s house, played with the kids and then got on the tractor to drive home and it wouldn’t start and the other kid’s dad jumped it for them and let them drive it back home!

Well, anyhow, they survived and my son was really mad that he got a spanking by someone else’s father. The babysitter was also fired, she never realized they were gone.


33 posted on 10/19/2007 8:30:12 AM PDT by tiki
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To: jalisco555

Wow, that’s too bad. Hopefully your SIL will be able to move on from feeling guilty.

I just did a bike safety class at work for one of our safety meetings. I showed a friends helmet after he had a massive crash. The helmet was absolutely shattered but he survived. The accident broke his neck and he had a few other injuries but he’s fine now.

It’s sad that we have to use tragic examples to encourage some safety.


34 posted on 10/19/2007 8:32:38 AM PDT by cyclotic (Support Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: cyclotic

I cringe every time I see someone riding without a helmet. Really, how hard is it to wear the thing? They’re a little uncomfortable but so what? My nephew would be 23 now if he had worn his.


35 posted on 10/19/2007 8:36:50 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: SmithL

I don’t care what people say......I let my grandson ride in the bucket of my tractor, ride our horses, ride his own tractor, run all over the place unsupervised. He’s a kid and needs to experiment with life. Swim in the creek, climb trees....in fact I may build him a tree house. I use to ride on the sun deck in the back seat of my dads cars. Anyone know what a sundeck is any more?


36 posted on 10/19/2007 8:52:48 AM PDT by RC2
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To: tiki
***** Yep, all of the above.

We also chewed this horrible, nasty tasting, government issue glue, it was a cool texture, who knows what was in that! We had black walnut fights until the doctors daughter got a black eye.

In the summer, we played until late at night throughout the neighborhood.

Fire was my favorite toy. *****

I liked eating the Paste. And on hot summer days we'd also chew TAR from the streets. We didn't have Walnuts, we had Pea Shooters -- now a Class 3 'Firearm' :-) -- and snowball fights in winter and I did give a neighbor girl a black eye with one by accident (I'd be in prison for that today).

And yep in summer we were basically gone all day long. Playing, exploring and roaming wherever. Just had to be home when the street lights went on (I don't recall 'eating').

We didn't 'play' with fire, just started little ones to melt the lead to make fishing sinkers. But we did catch spiders, big ones, 'Banana Spiders' (which I now find are venomous).

Sheesh, why are we here????

:-)

37 posted on 10/19/2007 8:58:35 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: tiki
"Well, anyhow, they survived and my son was really mad that he got a spanking by someone else’s father. "

Imagine if that happened today. Among our circle of friends, we encourage other adults to set our children straight if they see them acting out of line, but I think we're the exception in our community. We've had some pretty hostile reactions from people when we say anything to their errant children. My husband got yelled at for telling a youngster to get out of the way of moving cars in an Independence Day parade.

38 posted on 10/19/2007 9:03:48 AM PDT by Think free or die
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To: NativeSon
angled metal slides ...man those things would get hot in summer, I suffered many a burn and then damaged knees from jumping off

LOL - you bet. There were a lot of times on a hot summer day that I climbed onto one of those and jumped right back off. It was like a frying pan.

No wonder the nannies had those pulled off the playgrounds.
39 posted on 10/19/2007 9:05:41 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: Think free or die
This past summer I was dismayed to see that the monkey bars had been removed. One more loss of innocent childhood fun. I'm sure it was some over-protective idiot who decided they were too risky, because I guarantee you, they didn't "break".

School and park playgrounds are rapidly disappearing. Why? Liability issues. Nobody wants to get sued when some kid injures themselves. On a related note, when was the last time you saw a diving board in a public swimming pool? Those are gone as well.

40 posted on 10/19/2007 9:11:08 AM PDT by Drew68
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