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Senator [Ron Paul?] in 'fake online campaign'
Herald Sun ^ | 12 October 2007 | Mark Schliebs

Posted on 10/12/2007 4:27:43 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher

A CANDIDATE for the US presidency is being buoyed by a huge online campaign that may be a fake a grassroots movement organised by party staff.

YouTube footage of Texan Republican Senator Ron Paul, whose candidacy has been overshadowed in the media by competitors Rudi Giuliani, Fred Thompson and John McCain, has been viewed by tens of thousands of people in the last week.

As of 11am AEST today, a compilation of different clips of Senator Paul was the top rated video of the past 24 hours.

The clip had been viewed nearly 60,000 times since it was uploaded yesterday.

But it was not the only clip of the senator receiving kudos from YouTube users, with another 10 videos appearing in today’s list of the site’s 100 top rated recordings.

Of the 11 featured clips of Senator Paul, only one user uploaded more than one of them in the last 24 hours.

Head of Flinders University’s Department of American Studies Don De Bots told NEWS.com.au that it “sounded like” an astroturfing campaign.

Astroturfing is the term used to describe a fake grassroots campaign, in which members of an organisation create the illusion that “ordinary people” are behind the movement.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; cheating; online; paulestinians; ronpaul
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I suppose it was worth a try...
1 posted on 10/12/2007 4:27:44 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher
Senator Paul?
2 posted on 10/12/2007 4:29:08 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (When gov't wants to fix something, chances are it was the gov't that broke it in the first place.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I am SO shocked to read this. Astroturfing for Paul. Just amazing.


3 posted on 10/12/2007 4:33:52 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: Aussie Dasher
The clip had been viewed nearly 60,000 times since it was uploaded yesterday.

It's hard to believe those kinds of numbers in the first 24 hours. After a day or two, no biggie. Immediately after an upload is suspicious.

4 posted on 10/12/2007 4:35:09 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Aussie Dasher
Texan Republican Senator Ron Paul

Senator?

5 posted on 10/12/2007 4:38:56 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Aussie Dasher

6 posted on 10/12/2007 4:42:12 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Bahbah

I dunno. I’d never heard of him until last year...


7 posted on 10/12/2007 4:42:21 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Allegra; mnehrling; Petronski; SJackson

In other news, scientists have learned that all water contains a property they are calling “wetness.”


8 posted on 10/12/2007 4:43:11 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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Don De Bots

"De Bots" is probably what are causing all the hits (end/sarcasm.) Seriously though, they could be using a click farm or bots to generate lots of hits.

9 posted on 10/12/2007 4:44:05 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Aussie Dasher

A promotion!!! Senator Paul, kinda has a ring to it.

The obvious mistake in this article repeated several times doesn’t lend a lot of credibility to the writer.


10 posted on 10/12/2007 4:47:48 AM PDT by saganite
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To: Aussie Dasher

I do think it is a grass roots movement. It’s just a very small grass roots movement.


11 posted on 10/12/2007 4:49:31 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To make up for the mistake in original article’s headline (”Senator”) would adding “(Ron Paul)” at the end of the thread title be the right fix?


12 posted on 10/12/2007 4:50:29 AM PDT by drpix
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IMO a description using “mold” seems more fitting than “grass”...


13 posted on 10/12/2007 4:53:04 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Malsua

Depending on the video, it’s possible, but a video where a politician is speaking, not so much. “Sore-eee” Ron.


14 posted on 10/12/2007 5:59:44 AM PDT by GlennBeck08
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To: Aussie Dasher

It is certainly possible to spambot YouTube to drive numbers up.

If that is happening, it’s very unlikely that it is the campaign doing it. More likely, some script kiddie with a deep bandwidth connection like at a university.

However, Ron Paul does have something like 55,000 Meetup members now, located in 24 countries. So some of the traffic might very well be an indication of international enthusiasm for his message. Many of the European and Brit young people really do like RP’s liberty and small-government message. They don’t like a nanny-state future and they recognize the problems with socialist government solutions.

I don’t find the article especially credible when they couldn’t even be bothered to verify that RP is a congressman, not a senator. And those interviews with the “expert”, well, he’s some nobody and they had a strange way of collating his responses. Funny he never bothered to mention to them that RP is a congressman.


15 posted on 10/12/2007 6:14:17 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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Does not surprise me a bit.


16 posted on 10/12/2007 6:20:21 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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Considering how many staff members are on RonPaulForums.com and how they have created fake forums for other candidates (FredForums.com, etc) I wouldn’t be surprised.
17 posted on 10/12/2007 6:22:00 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian.)
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Astroturfing 101

Read this for a while.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/


18 posted on 10/12/2007 6:23:55 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian.)
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Your link took me to a Ron Paul page orchestrating something worse than "astroturfing" or spamming online polls and view/visitor counters. It's titled "Party Affiliation change DEADLINES!" and gives these for several states. Its intent is clearly to get non-republicans to change party affiliation to sabotage Republican primaries for this fraud of a candidate.
19 posted on 10/12/2007 7:14:19 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Aussie Dasher
Aside from the factual errors (e.g., Senator Paul), the article is remarkably content free. Sure, many of us suspect astroturfing is going on, but despite the headline, all the article manages to say is that it kind of looks like it could be astroturfing.

Not worth the time to read it.

20 posted on 10/12/2007 7:17:31 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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