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Italy's Mamma's Boys Given Cash To Fly Nest
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 10-5-2007 | Malcolm Moore

Posted on 10/05/2007 7:07:54 PM PDT by blam

Italy's mamma's boys given cash to fly nest

By Malcolm Moore in Rome
Last Updated: 7:44pm BST 05/10/2007

The hordes of Italians devoted to their mammas are to be offered money to leave home, the government has stated.

The average age for flying the nest in Italy is 36

Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa, the finance minister, said it was vital to get reluctant Italians to fly the nest and become more independent.

Currently, eight out of 10 Italians aged under 30 still live at home, and the average age for moving out is 36.

"Let's get these big babies out of the house," said Mr Padoa-Schioppa, who left home himself at the age of 19 to work in Germany.

"If young people stay with their parents, they do not get married or have any independence," he added.

Italian men make up the bulk of those staying at home, at around 67 per cent, and a mocking phrase has even been coined to describe them: "Mammoni" or "Big Mummy's boys".

Next year's budget will offer almost £700 in tax relief to Italians under 30 earning less than £10,500 a year, and half that to those earning more.

In addition, the government will pay 19 per cent towards the cost of renting accommodation for university students if they study at least 65 miles away from their home.

Alessandro Rosino, an economist at Milan's Bocconi University, said young Italians are forced to live at home by the country's rising cost of living and lack of work.

"The average wage for Italians aged between 25 to 30 is only half of what their peers in England earn," he said.

"And almost 40 per cent who do manage to leave home have to return."

Other commentators said the phenomenon is costing Italy in terms of lost growth and innovation.

Renato Brunetta, a Right-wing politician, said there is "little movement either geographically, socially or professionally and little propensity to risk".

But Flavio Insinna, a television quiz show host who is Italy's version of Chris Tarrant, said he was still living with his mother and father at the age of 42, despite having a girlfriend.

"I have never felt the need to move. The reason is not because of money, it is because I love them," he told La Stampa newspaper.

Many other Italians happily send their laundry home to their mothers, and 43 per cent, when they do finally move out, rent or buy homes less than a mile from their parents.

However, recent research by two Italian academics has shown that the blame may lie with "clingy parents" rather than lazy children.

Marco Manacorda and Enrico Moretti said the vast majority of Italian parents enjoyed the company of their adult children, and used their extra income to "bribe" them into staying at home.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: flt; italy; mamma; nest
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Thirty Six!!!
1 posted on 10/05/2007 7:07:56 PM PDT by blam
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That is so bizarre. My folks could not WAIT for us kids to get out of the house. They start rocking back and forth in impatience on the kid’s 14th birthday, and by the time you turn 18, they’re staring at you like “Why are you still here??”


2 posted on 10/05/2007 7:12:49 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: blam
Maybe its dejavu, but I swear I read this exact story 10 years ago... or saw it on 60 minutes.
3 posted on 10/05/2007 7:14:12 PM PDT by OCC
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To: blam

Is there going to be a housing shortage? LOL


4 posted on 10/05/2007 7:14:24 PM PDT by tioga
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To: blam
They don't need cash, they need to find girlfriends who can make this like mamma.


5 posted on 10/05/2007 7:16:00 PM PDT by mnehring ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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"I have never felt the need to move. The reason is not because of money, it is because I love them," he told La Stampa newspaper

No, it's because mommy cooks, cleans and caters to her son's every need. He is treated like a king. Girlfriend provides the companionship and the big bambino has no desire to leave. THAT is the problem. Trust me. I know of 40+ year old men who are still at home.

6 posted on 10/05/2007 7:16:35 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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Many other Italians happily send their laundry home to their mothers

All my laundry I will send to you

All my laundry momma its for you

All my laundry All my laundry

Ooooooohhhhhhooooooooohhhhh, all my laundry

I will send to you

I guess this makes Robert from the "Everybody loves Raymond" show a normal Italian man....bwahahahahahaha!

7 posted on 10/05/2007 7:18:04 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: blam

Why WOULD they leave? They’ve got maid and cooking services for free?


8 posted on 10/05/2007 7:37:50 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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I wonder if this is why Italy’s birth rate is so low - hard to make a baby if you’re still a baby.


9 posted on 10/05/2007 8:10:33 PM PDT by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" by Tamara Wilhite)
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hard to make a baby if you’re still a baby.

Sadly, that is not true. Hard to have a family. Hard to be a father and husband. But not hard to make a baby.

10 posted on 10/05/2007 8:15:22 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: blam
These losers have no wish to go out and make their way in the world.

Pathetic.

11 posted on 10/05/2007 8:16:59 PM PDT by SIDENET (I don't want to find "common ground" with a bunch of damn leftists.)
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I don't doubt this for a moment. We had an exchange student from Italy who we called the "student from hell". I knew there would be trouble when he announced that his mother ironed his underwear!!!He also told his mom she should have an exchange student while he was gone because "she wouldn't have anything to do".

He ate me out of house and home, and refused to get along with my kids. This kid would go through a jar of jam every day. He was making strawberry pies, not toast with jam. He didn't want to go to school at the same times as the other 2 kids did (until I told him he could walk the 10 miles there if he missed his ride)

Bottom line, he was such a pain in the nether regions that after we kicked him out (nice, kind calm affable family told the agency "get him out of here or we will kill him and bury him in the back 40")I wouldn't even eat spaghetti for 2 years.

12 posted on 10/05/2007 8:27:14 PM PDT by Grammy
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SIDENET said: "These losers have no wish to go out and make their way in the world."

I think that having children leave home at 18 or so to start their own households and families is a relatively recent phenomenon developed in the US as a result of our very high standard of living.

Without the high standard of living, it just isn't practical. Social security used to be provided by having lots of sons to work the family business and support one in one's old age (which once meant the fifties).

The plan in Italy is to tax the productive in order to bribe people into making decisions which probably don't make sense in such a high tax environment.

13 posted on 10/05/2007 8:37:14 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: A_perfect_lady

That describes my family. Graduated at 16 myself and lived on campus at college. My brother was flung out the door at 18 literally.


14 posted on 10/05/2007 10:42:44 PM PDT by packrat35 (PIMP my Senate. They're all a bunch of whores anyway!)
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To: blam

Hey, I have to speak for the opposite side.

I’m of Italian extraction, and yes, the families live and stay closer. But I like it that way. The family is everything.

I’m a widow and I enjoy having my boys at home.


15 posted on 10/05/2007 11:01:58 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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I knew there would be trouble when he announced that his mother ironed his underwear!!!

We had a 26 y.o. friend of the family out to visit for two weeks a few years ago. What you say is true. My Mom is from Italy and she was horrified at the level of coddling expected. It wasn't like that for her growing up.

16 posted on 10/06/2007 12:59:43 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: blam
36 is nothing. We were invited to dinner with a couple in their seventies. The woman was in a celebratory mood, for her 57 year old step-son had just moved out of the house the day before. He had been living with them for over three years because, "he had difficulty finding employment to match his college degree."

So at last he moved out of his parents' home, and is sacking out on a buddy's couch. This Monday he will begin work at WalMart stocking goods at night.

The father says of his son, "The boy just hasn't found himself yet."

17 posted on 10/06/2007 8:10:27 AM PDT by Irish Queen (Nevada Gal)
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To: A_perfect_lady

That sounds terrible. Sorry to hear that.


18 posted on 10/06/2007 8:12:25 AM PDT by Vision (" 'Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the Lord Almighty." Zechariah 4:6)
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I’m with you. The family is everything and close extended families are the usual in the world. Adult children should work, cook, clean, and pay equal expenses, but keeping the family together is good for the country.


19 posted on 10/06/2007 8:20:15 AM PDT by Wage Slave (Good fences make good neighbors. -- Robert Frost)
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To: Wage Slave

Right now one of my boys is helping a woman by installing a water pump in her car (for free), and one is running a line for my microwave. They also pay the utilities for the house.

If parents want their kids to move out because they are still ironing their underwear, they’ve done something wrong. The traditional idea is, the kids stay home and help the parents out, not vice versa.


20 posted on 10/06/2007 8:28:52 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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