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Carter in Darfur shouting match
CNN ^ | 3 October 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/03/2007 6:28:55 AM PDT by Freeport

KABKABIYA, Sudan (AP) -- Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter got in a shouting match Wednesday with Sudanese security officials who blocked him from a town in Darfur where he was trying to meet representatives of ethnic African refugees from the ongoing conflict.

The 83-year-old Carter walked into this highly volatile pro-Sudanese government town to meet refugees too frightened to attend a scheduled meeting at a nearby compound.

Carter was able to make it to a school where he met with one tribal representative and was preparing to go further into the town when Sudanese security services interrupted.

"You can't go. It's not on the program!" the local national security chief, who only gave his first name as Omar, yelled at Carter, who is in Darfur as part of a delegation of respected international figures known as "The Elders."

"We're going to anyway!" an angry Carter retorted, telling security officers they didn't have the authority to stop him.

As a growing crowd gathered around the former president, Carter's U.S. security detail and his African Union escort tried to ease tensions. Carter later agreed to a compromise by which tribal representatives would be brought to him at another location later Wednesday.

"I'll tell President Bashir about this," Carter said, referring to Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir.

The Darfur conflict began when ethnic African rebels took up arms against the Arab-dominated Sudanese government, accusing it of decades of neglect. Sudan's government is accused of retaliating by unleashing a militia of Arab nomads known as the janjaweed -- a charge it denies.

More than 200,000 people have been killed and 2.5 million driven out of their homes in four years of violence.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: darfur; imbecility; sudan; theelders
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What could he have been expecting? Why could he possibly be shocked at this?
1 posted on 10/03/2007 6:28:56 AM PDT by Freeport
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To: Freeport

typical lib - if talking doesn’t get you anywhere, try shouting the other side down...


2 posted on 10/03/2007 6:29:44 AM PDT by steel_resolve (90 Guns per 100 Americans...You will never take us.)
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Idiot...he willing puts his own security detail at mortal risk to appease his foolish pride in a thrid world country where his name means next to nothing.


3 posted on 10/03/2007 6:31:23 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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"We're going to anyway!" an angry Carter retorted, telling security officers they didn't have the authority to stop him.

Don't you know who I am? I'm going to tell on you! Whhaaaaaaa!!

4 posted on 10/03/2007 6:34:48 AM PDT by RedsHunter
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To: Freeport
A fool meets the reality of life...
5 posted on 10/03/2007 6:37:45 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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I wonder how much it would have taken to bribe the Sudanese into just keeping that nitwit there permanently.


6 posted on 10/03/2007 6:38:12 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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Was his security detail Secret Service? If so, then they should be jerked, since he had no right putting those guys in danger just so that he could feed his ego.


7 posted on 10/03/2007 6:38:31 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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"We're going to anyway!" an angry Carter retorted, telling security officers they didn't have the authority to stop him.

Just like a slime ball liberal. The law does not apply to them. Do as they say, not as they do. They can have 30,000 foot houses, we little people have to live in 1,000 sq. ft. Kerry, Kennedy, Karter, Kedwards, Klintons, KAlgores, they can have their big mansions. They DO SO MUCH for society. They DESERVE it. /sarcasm hot as lava.

8 posted on 10/03/2007 6:41:11 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (America's stupidity is overshadowed only by its pure stupidity.)
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If he’d had this much chutzpah when he was prez against the Iranians then we wouldn’t have the Iranians today.............


9 posted on 10/03/2007 6:44:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back!)
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Ugly American.


10 posted on 10/03/2007 6:46:47 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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Carter later agreed to a compromise by which tribal representatives would be brought to him at another location later Wednesday.


In other words, he once again tried to appease his way out of the situation....he chickened out. Idiot. Of course he probably would have been killed.


11 posted on 10/03/2007 6:46:50 AM PDT by mad puppy (I'd rather live a day on my feet than a year on my knees)
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Idiot...he willing puts his own security detail at mortal risk to appease his foolish pride in a thrid world country where his name means next to nothing.

I’m going to tell...I’m going to tell - Whaaaaaaaaaaa. Baby.


12 posted on 10/03/2007 6:50:16 AM PDT by Bitsy
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...where his name means next to nothing.

Here in the US his name means four dreary wasted years of a disastrous administration. It also means volunteers pounding nails into tarpaper shacks creating new ghettos.

13 posted on 10/03/2007 6:50:23 AM PDT by fweingart (Tom Tancredo Will Get The Job Done! (How is Mumia Abu-Jamal these days?))
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I was thinking exactly the same thing. At a minimum, his passport should be revoked ... and if former presidents don’t need passports, his travel abroad should be restricted, although no one in the administration has the brass to do it.


14 posted on 10/03/2007 6:54:50 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Political correctness is domestic terrorism.)
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I am ashamed to have read some of the comments posted above. People on these threads constantly castigate leftists for their failure to act on their rhetoric. Carter, a man whose principles I generally deplore, showed courage and conviction in actually going to Sudan and actually confronting people who, I doubt not, fully support the murdering that has been taking place there for decades. That he is there at all puts him in a class not shared by 99.9999% of the rest of America including the “principled conservatives” on this thread.

Politics and ideology has a way of turning people into depraved loudmouths. I have fallen prey to this too many times in the past not to recognize it when I see it. It is far better to recognize that even enemies can display virtue and that their ideological stances do not make them evil, stupid or craven. They can be wrong on many things and still display courage or charity or any other virtue.


15 posted on 10/03/2007 6:56:50 AM PDT by scory
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"I'll tell President Bashir about this," Carter said,

I'm gonna tell your daddy..... uh, huh. (whining like a little b#tch)

16 posted on 10/03/2007 7:10:02 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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It also means volunteers pounding nails into tarpaper shacks creating new ghettos.

Having first-hand experience with this one, I can safely say that you are clueless on this topic. I would be proud to own any of the homes I helped build. The materials were of good quality and the people ensuring the work was up to code were mostly retired contractors and builders who definitely knew their business and took great pride in their work. If the neighborhoods become ghettos it won't be because the homes were of poor quality.
17 posted on 10/03/2007 7:13:49 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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Idiot...he willing puts his own security detail at mortal risk to appease his foolish pride in a thrid world country where his name means next to nothing.

The United States is a third world country?

18 posted on 10/03/2007 7:17:08 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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Idiot...he willing puts his own security detail at mortal risk to appease his foolish pride in a third world country where his name means next to nothing.

And all the while he could just stay here, where his name means next to nothing.

19 posted on 10/03/2007 7:33:47 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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I am ashamed to have read some of the comments posted above. People on these threads constantly castigate leftists for their failure to act on their rhetoric. Carter, a man whose principles I generally deplore

I would have to know which side he is on first. Historically, he is always on the wrong side.

20 posted on 10/03/2007 7:38:37 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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