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Mike Bloomberg: Iraq Is Like 1776 Only This Time, 'We're The British'
NY Post ^ | 9/26/07 | David Seifman City Hall Bureau Chief

Posted on 09/26/2007 11:00:36 AM PDT by dead

In his most detailed comments on the Iraq war, Mayor Bloomberg last night suggested the United States was in the same difficult position as the British in the Revolutionary War - facing a determined band of insurgents.

Bloomberg said the comparison occurred to him when he visited his mother recently and was driving through Lexington, Mass., where a scrubby group of farmers rose up against a well-trained militia more than 200 years ago.

"We're the British," the mayor said during an interview with Tom Brokaw at Cooper Union, part of a series featuring potential presidential contenders hosted by former Gov. Mario Cuomo.

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Surprisingly, only about three-quarters of the 900-seat Great Hall was filled as the mayor spent 45 minutes discussing the war, education and health care. Those hoping for a hint of Bloomberg's presidential plans left disappointed.

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As he has before, Bloomberg maintained that the United States is in "big trouble and said, "Somebody's got to pull it out." He didn't specify who that somebody should be.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2008; banglist; bloombat; bloomberg; iraq; mikebloomberg; moron; newyork; ny; nyc; treason; wot
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1 posted on 09/26/2007 11:00:39 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead
This guy's an idiot -

Carolyn

2 posted on 09/26/2007 11:01:31 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: dead

What does that make Iran? The french?


3 posted on 09/26/2007 11:01:44 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: dead

What a jackass.


4 posted on 09/26/2007 11:02:04 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: dead

Bloomberg working hard to regain the 2008 traitor vote - he had no idea that Ron Paul would eat into his base so quickly.


5 posted on 09/26/2007 11:02:32 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: dead

Our insurgents didn’t want to cut the heads off of infidels.


6 posted on 09/26/2007 11:03:17 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: dead

Why izzit that the more money you have the stupider you get?................


7 posted on 09/26/2007 11:03:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: CDHart
A Blooming idiot.
8 posted on 09/26/2007 11:03:37 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: dead

don’t have to worry about him running for president


9 posted on 09/26/2007 11:04:22 AM PDT by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process)
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To: dead

Remember - the American colonists fighting to establish a representative government are the same as cowards blowing up women and children in order to destroy a representative government.


10 posted on 09/26/2007 11:05:01 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: dead

For a guy that had made at lot of money, Bloomberg sure can’t draw a good historical analogy. Perhaps he is planning to raise taxes in NYC?


11 posted on 09/26/2007 11:05:03 AM PDT by Paladin2 (I don't fix the problems, I only fix the blame.)
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To: dead

Bloombutt is so full of sh!t.


12 posted on 09/26/2007 11:05:35 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: dead
Somebody's got to pull it out

Too bad it wasn't Bloomie's dad.
13 posted on 09/26/2007 11:05:36 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Big dog, big dog, bow-wow-wow! We'll crush crime, now, now, now!)
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To: mimaw
LOL! So true!

carolyn

14 posted on 09/26/2007 11:05:37 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: dead

Bush Derangement Syndrome is very real. This is what used to be an intelligent man, and, liberal or not, I can’t believe he’s saying something so stupid.


15 posted on 09/26/2007 11:05:48 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: dead

Mike, you are a total moron.

Why Iraq

One of the really infuriating things in modern politics is the level of disinformation, misinformation, demagoguery and out right lying going on about the mission in Iraq. Democrats have spent the last 3+ years lying about Iraq out of a political calculation. The assumption is that the natural isolationist mindset of the average American voter, linked to the inherent Anti Americanism (what is misnamed the “Anti War movement”) of the more feverish Democrat activists (especially those running the US’s National “News” media) would restore them to national political dominance. The truth is the Democrat Party Leadership has simply lacked the courage to speak truth to whiners. The truth is that even if Al Gore won the 2000 election and 09-11 still happened we would be doing the EXACT same things in Iraq we are doing now.

Based on the political situation in the region left over from the 1991 Gulf War plus the domestic political consensus built up in BOTH parties since 1991 as well as fundamental military strategic laws, there was NO viable strategic choice for the US but to take out Iraq after finishing the initial operations in Afghanistan.

To start with Saddam’s Iraq was our most immediate threat. We could NOT commit significant military forces to another battle with Saddam hovering undefeated on our flank nor could we leave significant forces watching Saddam. The political containment of Iraq was breaking down. That what Oil for Food was all about. Oil for Food was an attempt by Iraq to break out of it’s diplomatic isolation and slip the shackles the UN Sanctions put on it’s military. There there was the US Strategic position to consider.

The War on Islamic Fascism is different sort of war. in facing this Asymmetrical threat, we have a hidden foe, spread out across a geographically diverse area, with covert sources of supply. Since we cannot go everywhere they hide out, in fact often cannot even locate them until the engage us, we need to draw them out of hiding into a kill zone.

Iraq is that kill zone. That is the true brilliance of the Iraq strategy. We draw the terrorists out of their world wide hiding places onto a battlefield they have to fight on for political reasons (The “Holy” soil of the Arabian peninsula) where they have to pit their weakest ability (Conventional Military combat power) against our greatest strength (ability to call down unbelievable amounts of firepower) where they will primarily have to fight other forces (the Iraqi Security forces) in a battlefield that is mostly neutral in terms of guerrilla warfare. (Iraqi-mostly open terrain as opposed to guerrilla friendly areas like the mountains of Afghanistan or the jungles of SE Asia).

Did any of the critics of liberating Iraq ever look at a map? Iraq, for which we had the political, legal and moral justifications to attack, is the strategic high ground of the Middle East. A Geographic barrier that severs ground communication between Iran and Syria apart as well as providing another front of attack in either state or into Saudi Arabia if needed.

There were other reasons to do Iraq but here is the strategic military reason we are in Iraq. We have taken, an maintain the initiative from the Terrorists. They are playing OUR game on ground of OUR choosing.

Problem is Counter Insurgency is SLOW and painful. Often a case of 3 steps forward, two steps back. One has to wonder if the American people have either the emotional maturity, nor the intellect” to understand. It’s so much easier to spew made for TV slogans like “No Blood for Oil” or “We support the Troops, bring them home” or dumbest of all “We are creating terrorists” then to actually THINK.

Westerners in general, and the US citizens in particular seem to have trouble grasping the fundamental fact of this foe. These Islamic Fascists have NO desire to co-exist with them. The extremists see all this PC posturing by the Hysteric Left as a sign that we are weak. Since they want us dead, weakness encourages them. There is simply no way to coexist with people who completely believe their “god” will reward them for killing us.

So we can covert to Islam, die or kill them. Iraq is about killing enough of them to make the rest of the Jihadists realize we are serious. They same way killing enough Germans, Italians and Japanese eliminated the ideologies of Nazism, Fascism and Bushido.

Americans need to understand how Bin Laden and his ilk view us. In the Arab world the USA is considered a big wimp. We have run away so many times. Lebanon, the Kurds, the Iraqis in 1991, the Iranians, Somalia, Clinton all thru the 1990s etc etc etc. The Jihadists think we will run again. In fact they are counting on it. That way they can run around screaming “We beat the American just like the Russians, come join us in Jihad” and recruit the next round of “holy warriors”. Iraq is also a show place where we show the Muslim world that there are a lines they cannot cross. On 9-11-01 they crossed that line and we can, and will, destroy them for it -

If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

Winston Churchill


16 posted on 09/26/2007 11:05:56 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: dead
Hmmmm... I didn’t realize that we had colonized Iraq and that those Iraqi-American colonies rose up against us?
17 posted on 09/26/2007 11:05:57 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Michael B. Nutz

That's some might stupid analysis you're spewing.

18 posted on 09/26/2007 11:06:01 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: dead

Not only is this a remarkably stupid comment, but the analogy is vastly incorrect.


19 posted on 09/26/2007 11:06:10 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

LOL!


20 posted on 09/26/2007 11:06:22 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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