Evangelical Leader Counters Dobson; Supports Thompson

The Christian Post ^ | Sep. 24 2007 | Ethan Cole

[counterpunch]

I know who Dobson is.
And he is supporting Gingrich, otherwise he would never have given Newt a forum to reach out to evangelicals and seek their forgiveness.
By doing so, Dobson gave Newt his blessing, so to speak.

Dobson knows if he can pull off the evangelical vote for Gingrich, he will have enormous access and influence in a Gingrich administration.
Seems Dobson fancies himself some sort of pied piper.
He’s just now discovering that he’s not.

[AppyPappy]

Gary Bauer??? I’m not sure I would want him on my side.

[Guenevere]

The question wasn’t to you...it was a misprint on my part and was directed to counterpunch.

[Guenevere]

Bingo!...

[P8riot]

I thought that Dobson’s beef with Thompson was that Fred wouldn’t wear his religion on his sleeve.

[mnehring]

That was the old beef, the newest one was that he doesn’t support the Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

I do admit, I could be wrong, there have been so many opinion pieces that it may have blurred people guessing the reason versus the stated reason. I’ll do some digging and see if I can find the article on the original ‘leaked’ email.

[RachelFaith]

Karen Cross? A well known Democrat apologist and moderate. RTL has all but sold out... worse than the NRA has done. Whoever she supports is defacto instantly suspect.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Like what? My statement is 100% true and pertinent to the fact that I've never believed that a candidate who is even agnostic on the issue of abortion would ever stand a chance of being nominated by the Republican Party, much less someone who lobbied on behalf of the abortion industry.

Your statement is 100% false, which if you've paid any attention on the previous threads dealing with the issue, you would know. See mnehrling's #15 for a very brief rundown - the claim that Fred "lobbied for abortion groups" is utter nonsense, and borders on being the sort of underhanded, poisoning-the-well rubbish we'd expect of Team Clinton. Further, to say that Fred is "agnostic" on abortion (which seems to me to be the intent of your statements) is laughable. The guy has a 100% pro-life voting record in the Senate (i.e., where it "counts"). That's "agnostic" on abortion? What planet are you transmitting from?

[mnehring]

This is interesting. What you are theorizing is mirrored almost exactly from an article in the American Spectator.

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12062

"It's not a coincidence that you saw Dr. Dobson attacking Fred Thompson when he did," says a former associate of Dobson's. "There's a strategy here, and it's about clearing the way for Gingrich to get in....Shortly after Gingrich appeared on Dobson's radio show earlier this year and poured his heart our to Dobson, who forgave him for past personal indiscretions, Dobson attacked Thompson for not being -- in Dobson's view -- a Christian. That attack was interpreted by many to be Dobson's attempt to deflate what was then growing support for Thompson within the social conservative movement."

[kevkrom]

Further, to say that Fred is "agnostic" on abortion (which seems to me to be the intent of your statements) is laughable. The guy has a 100% pro-life voting record in the Senate (i.e., where it "counts"). That's "agnostic" on abortion? What planet are you transmitting from?

The same planet that says that Mitt Romney is a pro-life crusader despite never having previously run for elective office as anything other than a pro-choice (and proud of it) politician.

[mnehring]

If you haven’t yet, see the letter in post #39.

[mnehring]

Karen Cross? A well known Democrat apologist and moderate.

Do you have a link to support your charge?
(and make sure you don't confuse her with the outspoken leftist lawyer from Atlanta who is also named Karen Cross, they are two different people. I've seen a lot of people mix those two up.)

For those who are interested, Ms. Cross' personal story:
http://www.nrlc.org/news/1999/NRL799/atlg.htm

[P8riot]

Case in point, the last election. It’s these “all or nothing” folks that are gonna kill us.

[mnehring]

HSWs?

[Perchant]

Your statement is 100% false, which if you've paid any attention on the previous threads dealing with the issue, you would know.

I paid very close attention to those threads and watched the Thompson backers in full denial mode even as their candidate was backing off his own denial.

[P8riot]

HSWs?

Forgive me, I am not up on all of the acronyms.

[CommerceComet]

Dobson's man is Newt Gingrich. His attack on Fred Thompson was orchestrated to try to sow discontent with Thompson in order to make room for Newt to enter the race.

Although that might be the intent (and the ultimate effect), I doubt it is a formal conspiracy involving Dobson and Gingrich.

Gingrich is too controversial to win even against Hillary's negatives. Too bad we couldn't take Gingrich's policies and Huckabee's personal life and put them together.

[mnehring]

Check your freepmail.

[P8riot]

Thanks. Got it.

[r9etb]

JMO, but I'm heartily sick of "evangelical leaders" who dabble in politics like this.

They treat Christianity as just another political pressure group ... and thereby jettison the One Thing that makes us different from political pressure groups.

Not that Christians shouldn't be aware and active ... but this stuff reminds me of this passage:

But he turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me. For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man." (Matt. 16:23)