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Evangelical Leader Counters Dobson; Supports Thompson
The Christian Post ^ | Sep. 24 2007 | Ethan Cole

Posted on 09/24/2007 7:00:11 AM PDT by Doofer

WASHINGTON – A well-known evangelical leader opposed Dr. James Dobson’s criticism of presidential hopeful Fred Thompson, pointing out the candidate’s conservative views and his potential to win the ’08 election.

“He (Thompson)’s obviously against same-sex marriage. He doesn’t support quite the same constitutional amendment that some of the others of us do, but he’s been talking with us about it, and has been moving closer and closer on the amendment,” said Bauer, who is president of American Values, according to OneNewsNow.

“So I hope that we can, as a movement, be very wise about this, and not savage candidates that we may very well have to support in 2008 if they’re running against Hillary Clinton.”

Dr. James Dobson, founder and chairman of Colo.-based Focus on the Family, wrote in a private e-mail last week to friends and supporters that he will not support Thompson for president because he is too weak on key issues that concern the Christian right.

In particular, he criticized Thompson for not supporting a constitutional amendment that would prohibit gay “marriage” on a national scale.

Thompson, an actor and former senator, is against same-sex “marriage” but favors a softer stance, calling for each state to decide their own legal definition of marriage and forbidding states from imposing their marriage laws on other states.

“Isn’t Thompson the candidate who is opposed to the constitutional amendment to protect marriage, believes there should be 50 different definitions of marriage in the U.S., favors McCain-Feingold, won’t talk at all about what he believes and can’t speak his way out of a paper bag on the campaign trail?” Dobson wrote, according to The Associated Press.

The prominent Christian conservative also blasted Thompson for his seeming lack of commitment to Christianity, highlighting the candidate’s rare expression of faith and for not attending church regularly.

“He (Thompson) has no passion, no zeal, and no apparent ‘want to.’ And yet he is apparently the Great Hope that burns in the breasts of many conservative Christians?” wrote Dobson.

“Not for me, my brothers. Not for me.”

Bauer, however, defended Thompson as an evangelical favorite and predicted that he can still win the Christian support if he confirms his conservative stance, performs well in debates, and demonstrates ability to raise campaign funds.

“I think the one thing that almost every conservative Christian agrees about is that we cannot allow Hillary Clinton to be the next President of the United States,” concluded Bauer.

According to the latest Associated Press-Ipsos poll, the race for the 2008 GOP nomination is highly fluid, with Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor, and Fred Thompson virtually tied at 24 and 19 percent, respectively. Not far behind at 15 percent is Sen. John McCain of Arizona while former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has 7 percent.

In contrast, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has a clear, across-the-board lead in the Democratic race over Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois by 34 percent to 20 percent, roughly the margin she has enjoyed for months.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dobson; electionpresident; fredthompson; garybauer
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1 posted on 09/24/2007 7:00:13 AM PDT by Doofer
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To: Doofer

Dobson, places too much importance on his own endorsements. unfortunately so do many of his follower who would rather throw out the baby with the bath-water than take a chance on someone who espouses most of the founding principles of this country.


2 posted on 09/24/2007 7:04:39 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Doofer

I guess Bauer didn’t get his marching orders from Dobson...


3 posted on 09/24/2007 7:05:11 AM PDT by Doofer (Fred Dalton Thompson For President)
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To: Doofer

That would be Gary Bauer.


4 posted on 09/24/2007 7:05:22 AM PDT by fred4prez
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To: Doofer

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20070924/29428_Evangelical_Leader_Counters_Dobson%3B_Supports_Thompson.htm


5 posted on 09/24/2007 7:05:22 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The Flyin' Imams Since 11/20/06)
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To: Doofer
Ha!...Bauer!...yeah, nice Gary

..you who was once held in high esteem by Dobson & millions of other Evangelicals until your fall from grace.

Nice pile-on.~extreme sarcasm

6 posted on 09/24/2007 7:06:44 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Doofer

It’s time to win votes for Thompson by bashing Dobson for not being a supporter.

That’ll work.


7 posted on 09/24/2007 7:06:45 AM PDT by donna (Whoopi on Communism: “We haven’t given it enough time.”)
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To: donna

well said


8 posted on 09/24/2007 7:08:42 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Doofer

Well it looks like Dobson has removed himself from relevance.
Gary Bauer has stepped up to fill the void.
So long James, it was nice while it lasted.


9 posted on 09/24/2007 7:09:48 AM PDT by counterpunch (Mitt and Kerry wish you a great Pride Weekend.)
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To: Doofer
I guess Bauer didn’t get his marching orders from Dobson...

Dobson can't give marching orders when they are not reasonable. Most often, Dobson is. I think he showed that he isn't always right on this one.

My bet is Dobson has his own preference since this is still the primaries. But when the ACTUAL presidential campaign kicks off, he'll support whoever is the GOP candidate ( even Thompson ). My only doubt is his enthusiasm for Giullani ( my bet is he won't support the man ).
10 posted on 09/24/2007 7:11:31 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: Doofer

I never figured a lobbyist for abortionists could find a lot of supporters among Christian conservatives.


11 posted on 09/24/2007 7:13:44 AM PDT by Perchant
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To: Guenevere
90% of this article is a re-hash and re-reporting of what dobson said. Plus it is an opportunity to report a split in what the drive-bys see as a voting bloc.

Therefore, this is just another media attack on fred.....and nothing less.....duh!

12 posted on 09/24/2007 7:13:44 AM PDT by cb
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To: counterpunch; Politicalmom; Sturm Ruger
As I've mentioned before, Gary Bauer attended the Fund Raiser for Fred in Washington DC on July 30. I personally saw him there. I saw him come up to Fred and shake his hand and congratulate him. I didn't hear what he said, I was not close enough. But just him being there, to me, meant that many RR people were already supporting Fred.
13 posted on 09/24/2007 7:16:26 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: SirLinksalot
The problem with Dobson’s complaint wasn’t that he believed Thompson disagreed with him on the substance of the issue, Dobson expected Thompson to follow the ‘how’ of the issue to. The problem with Dobson’s expectation is that a lot of good, Christian conservatives don’t want to cross the line in modifying the Constitution because you are opening the door to ignore the basic federalist principles of our government- a can of worms that could backfire on Conservatives.

Dobson may not like that Thompson believes that marriage is a legal issue that is mandated to the States, but it is. Yes, there is a problem with run-away judges, but the answer is to get good Conservatives in there to appoint good judges, not change the Constitution to remove power from the States.

14 posted on 09/24/2007 7:17:51 AM PDT by mnehring (Thompson/Hunter 08 -- Fred08.com - The adults have joined the race.)
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To: Perchant
I never figured a lobbyist for abortionists could find a lot of supporters among Christian conservatives.

Fred wasn't a lobbyist for Abortionists. I guess you didn't see that someone here posted the billing records and he basically sat in on a few conference calls, there was no indication that he was lobbying for for them on the records. He is as guilty of lobbying for abortionists as an employee of Taco Bell would be if they sold them tacos for one of their meetings.

15 posted on 09/24/2007 7:19:48 AM PDT by mnehring (Thompson/Hunter 08 -- Fred08.com - The adults have joined the race.)
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To: mnehrling

Well, it looks like on the issue of Marriage, both he and Thompsom are on the same page. The disagreement lies in HOW BEST to strengthen the institution given activist judges.

But as I said before, Dobson is talking this way because there are other candidates on the list who are closer to his approach than Thompson.

But if Thompson BECOMES the Republican candidate, the choice then boils down to Fred or Hillary. No price for guessing who Dobson will support then.


16 posted on 09/24/2007 7:22:14 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: Perchant
I never figured a lobbyist for abortionists could find a lot of supporters among Christian conservatives.

I never figured FReepers would stoop to cheap, dishonest theatrical tricks in place of real arguments, either.

17 posted on 09/24/2007 7:23:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (John Adams said that the Constitution won't work for libertarians!)
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To: SirLinksalot
My bet is Dobson has his own preference since this is still the primaries.
Dobson's man is Newt Gingrich.
His attack on Fred Thompson was orchestrated to try to sow discontent with Thompson in order to make room for Newt to enter the race.
 
18 posted on 09/24/2007 7:24:13 AM PDT by counterpunch (Mitt and Kerry wish you a great Pride Weekend.)
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To: counterpunch
The odd part about this is, supposedly, Newt was helping Thompson before he officially jumped in.
19 posted on 09/24/2007 7:25:38 AM PDT by mnehring (Thompson/Hunter 08 -- Fred08.com - The adults have joined the race.)
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To: P8riot

Too often we won’t support someone we agree with 80% of the time, and get someone we agree with 5% of the time.


20 posted on 09/24/2007 7:26:33 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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