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Car's explosive contents revealed at hearing for USF students
The St. Petersburg Times ^ | September 14, 2007

Posted on 09/14/2007 3:59:11 PM PDT by dawn53

TAMPA -- PVC pipe filled with homemade "low-grade explosive mixture'' and a videotape instruction for turning a remote-controlled toy car into a detonator were among the items found in the car driven by two University of South Florida students arrested in South Carolina and now facing federal explosives charges, according to a federal prosecutor...The list also included a videotape that instructs viewers on how to convert a toy electric car into a detonator. Defendant Ahmed Mohamed has admitted making the tape, and in it he says he intended the instruction "to save one who wants to be a martyr for another battle,'' said federal prosecutor Jay Hoffer.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.tampabay.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Georgia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmedmohamed; explosives; goosecreek; muslimstudents; terrortrials; usf
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1 posted on 09/14/2007 3:59:13 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53

Too bad they can’t be executed as enemy combatants.


2 posted on 09/14/2007 4:04:07 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: dawn53
I live in Tampa, rather near USF. I still find it hard to believe that I was having an argument with a coworker who was insisting that it was only “fireworks” the students had in the car. She insisted the media was distorting the facts to make the students unsympathetic. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
3 posted on 09/14/2007 4:05:00 PM PDT by Talking_Mouse (O Lord, destroy Islam by converting the Muslims to Christianity.)
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To: TheDon

but...but...I thought they were just a couple of wild and crazy guys with fireworks???


4 posted on 09/14/2007 4:05:24 PM PDT by Palladin (Satan to Fidel: "Let me light your cigar.")
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To: TheDon
Defendant Ahmed Mohamed has admitted making the tape, and in it he says he intended the instruction "to save one who wants to be a martyr for another battle,'

I'm just wondering when the FBI will say they're connected to terrorism.

5 posted on 09/14/2007 4:05:55 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: TheDon
I do - I say I do - like the way you think!
6 posted on 09/14/2007 4:07:02 PM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: dawn53
Never.

Notice how quiet CAIR became..

7 posted on 09/14/2007 4:07:28 PM PDT by Dog (Dog memorabilia for sale....)
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To: dawn53

I knew it wasn’t fireworks.

They sell some good stuff in S.C. but not remotely detonated pipe bombs.


8 posted on 09/14/2007 4:08:48 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Dog

On Beck’s show the other night, they had a former FBI agent who said that CAIR pressured the Tampa authorities into dropping the charges against those two Saudi USF students who jumped on the school bus last year.

Don’t think CAIR will have much to say about this one, not with the confession of the student and the martyr statement.


9 posted on 09/14/2007 4:09:40 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Talking_Mouse

Doesn’t everyone kick-off their 4th of July with a hearty ‘martyr’ speech?


10 posted on 09/14/2007 4:09:47 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: dawn53
I hope they detain the pig in Gitmo; he isn’t a citizen, he’s eligible to be held as an enemy combatant.

Also, we need to cut off all visas to muslims until this war is won. If we don’t get serious about this, we are going to get hit again.

11 posted on 09/14/2007 4:10:28 PM PDT by BKerr (Fred Thompson 2008!)
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To: girlangler

Goose Creek ping!


12 posted on 09/14/2007 4:11:34 PM PDT by MizSterious (Deport all the illegals to sanctuary cities.)
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To: Talking_Mouse

“I live in Tampa, rather near USF”

Ditto, and I wonder how many still remain.


13 posted on 09/14/2007 4:18:34 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: dawn53; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; A Strict Constructionist; ...
South Carolina Ping

Add me to the list. / Remove me from the list.

Please welcome our newest South Carolina ping list member, Bill_C.

14 posted on 09/14/2007 4:19:53 PM PDT by upchuck (The President has an Agenda, and it's not promoting The Land of the Free and The Home of the Brave.)
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To: dawn53

and a videotape instruction for turning a remote-controlled toy car into a detonator were among the items


makes perfect sense to me. I always use remote control for my fireworks for safety reasons.


15 posted on 09/14/2007 4:21:04 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: Joan Kerrey
Ah but do you do it for this purpose:

"to save one who wants to be a martyr for another battle,'

16 posted on 09/14/2007 4:23:11 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Talking_Mouse
There are none so blind as those who will not see.

That statement can be expressed in a couple of other ways!

Liberals See What They Believe; Conseritives Believe What They See.

And

Christians & Jews say; "I will die for what I believe".

A mohammedan says; "you will die for what I believe".

17 posted on 09/14/2007 4:26:06 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: BKerr

You’re absolutely correct. We should also be closing down their mosques, but our president thinks that if he calls it a “religion of peace” long enough that it will make it so.


18 posted on 09/14/2007 4:27:29 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: dawn53

” Don’t think CAIR will have much to say about this one, not with the confession of the student and the martyr statement. “

No. It is certainly time for the ACLU to step in and begin passionatley defending the Sacred Constitutional Right of our Enemies to make political statements by blowing our asses up.

I sez martyr ‘em now, and bury them in a vat of pig intestines.


19 posted on 09/14/2007 4:28:26 PM PDT by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: dawn53
I'm just wondering when the FBI will say they're connected to terrorism.

When the Pope sits shiva....
20 posted on 09/14/2007 4:29:05 PM PDT by Kozak
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Soon we will be getting a new president. Hopefully one who will close down anti-American terrorist-enabling treasonous groups like CAIR.


21 posted on 09/14/2007 4:30:01 PM PDT by Palladin (Satan to Fidel: "Let me light your cigar.")
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To: dawn53

why do we keep letting these people into our country? recent stories
about the suspicious middle eastern men on the ferry, the hamas
med student with the ak-47 in detroit, make me wonder why we are
fighting these people in iraq when there seem to be plenty over here.
our immigration system is going to be the death of us if someone
doesn’t get a handle on it!

WIFE O’BUCKHEAD


22 posted on 09/14/2007 4:31:43 PM PDT by Buckhead (just making the comments buckhead won't make.)
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To: MizSterious

When I was in the Navy in 1972, there was a real good breakfast joint in downtown Goose Creek. Great ham steak and grits!


23 posted on 09/14/2007 4:32:33 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: dawn53

More detailed info in this article, just breaking on a Tampa website:

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/sep/14/me-few-release-options-appear-likely-for-usf-stude/?news-metro


24 posted on 09/14/2007 4:33:15 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: BKerr
If we don’t get serious about this, we are going to get hit again.

We Will be hit again, everyone agrees on that. But we need to tighten our borders and our security procedures so it's not too bad nor too often.
25 posted on 09/14/2007 4:39:39 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Emmett McCarthy
We should also be closing down their mosques,

I believe that an overreaction.

We should be arresting the Muslims who go to the mosques that preach and believe in radical Islam, not close their places of worship

If that leaves one or two old hags to sweep up the place, that's OK with me.

Freedom of religion is a American fundamental right, even for Muslims.

America first, Islam or any religion second

26 posted on 09/14/2007 4:39:57 PM PDT by Popman (Nothing + Time + Chance = The Universe ---------------------Bridge in Brooklyn for sale - Cheap)
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To: dawn53

Take the keys and lock them up. I cannot believe the judge would release them on bail. She should have to take them home with her.


27 posted on 09/14/2007 5:05:35 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: FFranco

“We need to tighten our security procedures.” Yes, and get rid of some of the liberal judges. YEGAD.


28 posted on 09/14/2007 5:06:22 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: MarineDad; TheDon

“I do - I say I do - like the way you think!”

That makes it tres amigos!

LLS


29 posted on 09/14/2007 5:20:32 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Talking_Mouse

“a coworker who was insisting that it was only “fireworks” the students had”

The initial news reports spoke of “fireworks”. I waited to see what kind, and lo and behold, KNO3-sugar plastic pipe bombs!

But if I stopped following the story early, I’d still be saying, just fireworks.


30 posted on 09/14/2007 5:22:46 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Emmett McCarthy
The truth is that cair, the aclu and the dims would cause a major Constitutional Crisis if any President did that... the only way we are going to see needed action like that (and internment camps), will be if and when we get hit in a big way. I wish we had already done what you state... and done it long ago!

LLS

31 posted on 09/14/2007 5:25:48 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Popman
>"We should be arresting the Muslims who go to the mosques that preach and believe in radical Islam, not close their places of worship

Freedom of religion is a American fundamental right, even for Muslims.

Freedom of religion is not a fundamental right when your "religion" commands you to MURDER!

DO you really need all the commandments to MURDER commanded by muuuuhHamhed (Pigs be inseminating him)? There are many! They are HIDEOUS!

Untill there is a First Baptist Church, A Saint Someone of something Cathedral, a Synagog/Temple, Buhdist Shrine, Hindu Temple, and Shinto temple in Mecca, there shouldn't be a mosque allowed outside SA!

32 posted on 09/14/2007 5:28:00 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Did you know that everyday mexican gays sneak into this country and unplug our brain dead ladies HJS)
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To: dawn53

Thanks, very informative post!


33 posted on 09/14/2007 5:33:32 PM PDT by NemoDog (and Nero fiddled...)
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To: dawn53

“a videotape that instructs viewers on how to convert a toy electric car into a detonator.”

Reminds me of that Dirty Harry movie with the remote control car bomb, at 1:30 in this trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP3_kCwiWAQ


34 posted on 09/14/2007 5:37:32 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Until there is a First Baptist Church, A Saint Someone of something Cathedral, a Synagog/Temple, Buddhist Shrine, Hindu Temple, and Shinto temple in Mecca, there shouldn't be a mosque allowed outside SA!

So we should drop ourselves down to their level in Mecca?

So when we ban all Mosques, even ones that are not radicalized, what will stop the ACLU from using the same legal reasoning to close the local fundamental church or at least try to.

The basic right to worship in the country any religion must be maintained or we have lost our way.

Islam is going to be part of our future, we need to understand that and deal with it. I didn't say capitulate to them, but set up lines they know they can't cross

(Pigs be inseminating him) cute and funny

35 posted on 09/14/2007 5:43:05 PM PDT by Popman (Nothing + Time + Chance = The Universe ---------------------Bridge in Brooklyn for sale - Cheap)
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To: dawn53
Megahed can leave the house only for religious reason

Such as jihad?

36 posted on 09/14/2007 6:01:25 PM PDT by Zeppo (We live in the Age of Stupidity. [Dennis Prager])
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To: dawn53
Image hosted by Photobucket.com skin the vermin alive... then set their azz on fire.
37 posted on 09/14/2007 6:08:10 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Islam is a political cult directed at world domination by Arabs - Mohammed dreamed up the religious bits (all taken from surrounding cultures and their religions) to justify his attacks and his ravages, and also to extend his control over these more advanced peoples after he subdued them. Then he passed on this cult to the other members of his tribe. And 1400 years later, it’s still on the attack.

Islam is not a religion in the first place.


38 posted on 09/14/2007 6:09:41 PM PDT by livius
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To: Squantos
Don't know if you saw this....

L

39 posted on 09/14/2007 6:13:16 PM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: Popman
>"The basic right to worship in the country any religion must be maintained or we have lost our way."

Hey the Manson family were just worshiping. How about the Jivaro headhunters? Should we welcome their diversity also?

A snake is a snake. A murder cult is a murder cult.

is-Slime in the future should only be a footnote on the forgotten stone age tribal cult worship page in dusty history books!

40 posted on 09/14/2007 6:19:16 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Did you know that everyday mexican gays sneak into this country and unplug our brain dead ladies HJS)
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To: dawn53

The libs in the senate and congress encourage these subhumans by thier anti war, anti military and race baiting propaganda, the media hides the true story and hides the truth, the judges set bail and let them loose, and the ACLU protests thier civil liberties, they are all protecting these subhumans so they can kill another day! Who will they kill? your mother, my father, our children and grandchildren. These are the enemies within, Sounds like treason to me! Lets start treating them like the enemies they are! ALL OF THEM!


41 posted on 09/14/2007 6:21:30 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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To: TheDon

Don’t hold your breath.

One of them was released on bond.

This is the same place where a jury turned Sammy Akrain loose.


42 posted on 09/14/2007 6:22:58 PM PDT by sport
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To: DBrow
KNO3 sugar plastic pipe bombs

The 'authorities' are calling it a 'low grade explosive device'....

How much power does a low grade explosive device have?.....

I'm serious....I'm not familiar with types of explosives.....can someone here give an example.

Someone mentioned an old Clint Eastwood movie with a remote controlled car....

..I remember that movie....a mailbox blew up and killed a guy...

..Is this the capability of 'low grade explosive'?

43 posted on 09/14/2007 6:34:03 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Aaron0617
whoa whoa...wait a minute. Where did this come from?

he says he intended the instruction "to save one who wants to be a martyr for another battle,''

Last, I heard of this story it was a couple of muslims with pipebomb/fireworks in their car. When did it turn into this. I'll try to catch up. Obviously I missed something.

44 posted on 09/14/2007 8:08:19 PM PDT by Aaron0617
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To: Aaron0617

This info was just released today at their hearing in Tampa, along with the info of what was in the car (see the article)...so you aren’t that far behind the news...it’s actually breaking news as of the posting of the article.


45 posted on 09/14/2007 8:13:35 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Popman

“Freedom of Religion is a fundamental right”.

I agree with you, but what happens when your religion cannot coexist with any other set of laws or religions? What happens if your religion denies the rest of us all of the other rights guaranteed in the constitution and tries to replace them entirely with Sharia law.


46 posted on 09/14/2007 8:36:13 PM PDT by willyd (Tickets, fines, fees, permits and inspections are synonyms for taxes)
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To: Popman

“Freedom of religion is a American fundamental right, even for Muslims”

Maybe it used to be that way but no longer...face it- there is no more freedom of religion any more...freedom of religion means the freedom to worship in one’s own way...not any more-now it is a matter of PC or not PC...so now, religious freedom is no longer measured in terms of a persons ability to worship in his own way, but is measured against what others perceive to be politically correct behavior and speech according to their secular, non-religious views...For example: let an Imam preach hatred and destruction of America and nothing happens..because he has free speech (non-secular0...But Let a Catholic priest stand at the pulpit and just hint that his parishioners maybe should not vote for a pro-choice candidate and whammo, the media is down on him like seagulls after crumbs on the boardwalk (= secular judgment of a statement based on religious belief)...and threatening to take away the Catholic Churches Tax exemption...But that is ok...the PC people are reaping what they have sown: seeds of discord, crushing the good people- in our society and empowering the worst... if things don’t turn around we will lose all our freedoms and our country will surely collapse..


47 posted on 09/14/2007 8:38:49 PM PDT by billmor (Freedom of Religion means freedom to worship, not freedom to plot violence)
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To: sport

maybe so but Sammi Al-Arian is now cooling his heels in jail, waiting to be deported...still yapping about his innocence but no one here is buying it...He was tried and convicted, now time to boot him out of the country...and good riddance !


48 posted on 09/14/2007 8:43:53 PM PDT by billmor (How can you tell when a Musklim is nearby ?)
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To: Popman
I believe that an overreaction.

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."
Ann Coulter

"We should demolish all mosques on American soil, send all muzzies without citizenship papers back to where they came from and convert the rest to Christianity."
cowboyway

49 posted on 09/14/2007 9:10:47 PM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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Thanks to freepers for pointing to this link:

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/sep/14/me-few-release-options-appear-likely-for-usf-stude/?news-metro

“Government Appeals Bail For USF Student”
By Thomas W. Krause of The Tampa Tribune and Elaine Silvestrini of The Tampa Tribune
Published: September 14, 2007

TAMPA -
ARTICLE SNIPPET: “At the hearing, prosecutors trying to prevent Megahed from being released on bail told Jenkins that investigators found a radio controlled boat, similar to one described in a YouTube video by his co-defendant, Ahmed Mohamed, as having the ability to detonate an explosive device so they could “save one who wants to be a martyr for another day, another battle.”

When Megahed and Mohamed were arrested in South Carolina on Aug. 4, investigators found four one-foot long pieces of PVC pipe filled with a potassium nitrate explosive mixture, fuses and bullets in the car. Megahed told investigators he didn’t know anything about the devices. But prosecutors today told Jenkins there was an audio recording in the sheriff’s car of a conversation between Megahed and Mohamed. In that exchange, Megahed is speaking Arabic and acknowledges the existence of the devices, according to prosecutors.

A seized laptop computer showed a video of a Qassam rocket in use, instructions on M-16 rifles and videos of martyrs.

Investigators also found an instruction video in which Mohamed gives instructions on how to remove the remote control device from a toy car.

Mohamed describes how the device can be used to detonate an explosive. Mohamed says if the device were to be used, a martyr can be saved and used later.

Mohamed also says the remote control from the car is similar to a remote controlled boat.

Investigators discovered that Megahed did possess a remote controlled boat.”


50 posted on 09/15/2007 1:36:11 AM PDT by Cindy
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