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Belmont bans smoking in apartment houses
The San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Wednesday, September 12, 2007 | Jonathan Curiel

Posted on 09/12/2007 1:37:07 PM PDT by Reeses

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To: HoosierHawk

What an awesome link!!


41 posted on 09/12/2007 6:01:05 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: lowbridge

Do you think I posted this CRAP?

Look again please.


42 posted on 09/12/2007 6:07:56 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: Just another Joe

“Man I hate to see what America is becoming.”


You should delete the last 2 words and change them to “has become”.

I’m glad I’m old and remember this country at it’s best.


43 posted on 09/12/2007 6:10:41 PM PDT by Mears
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To: JohnD9207

No I didnt think that, but I did reply to the wrong post. Didnt realize my mistake untill after it had posted.


44 posted on 09/12/2007 6:14:14 PM PDT by lowbridge ("We control this House, not the parliamentarians!” -Congressman Steny Hoyer (D))
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To: Alice in Wonderland
We own a condo down the shore and allowed smoking.This is our 2nd year allowing smoking and we were booked for the season and turned down a rental for this week and next weekend.
45 posted on 09/12/2007 6:23:54 PM PDT by fatima (Baby alert,Baby Ava arrived 6-29-07 at 3 PM-she is 10 pounds:))
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To: bfree
I wrote, after explaining that I had once being a smoker, I had to stop because it gave me bouts of acute sinusitis, resulting in two weeks of illness...: The bottom line is: Your Rights end where my nose begins.

you answered:

Just not true. You are the one who sounds like a screeching liberal.

So what you are saying is that you have the right to cause me to become ill - and - well, anyway, my conservatism is well known, as any of my readers can attest, not to mention the conservative candidates I have supported and worked on campaign staffs for, (including RR)often chosen as delegate for our State Conventions = now that I can go without becoming sick - ...

but speaking of screeching - your sentence reads: "You are the one who sounds like a screeching liberal."

The way that is worded, implies that I called YOU a "screeching liberal" .... I called neither you nor anyone else anything. I understand the addiction.

So who's the screecher...

46 posted on 09/12/2007 8:08:04 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7; All
Dr. Feel is on call. It appears that this patients' initial diagnosis is a combination of Chronic A and Acute C.

Hi maniac. I'm here to help you and provide a public service for a fee. I am a fully trained psychologist specializing in Nanny State Behavior Syndrome (NSBS). This liberal, left wing, social engineering disease is horrible and can strike anyone at anytime. It can even strike Conservatives who believe in free markets and limited government.

Thankfully, Dr. Feel (a wholly owned subsiduary of Dr. Phil) is here to help you work through their problems.

Please answer the questionaire below, so I know how best to treat you. And please have your insurance card ready for the wallet biopsy. This is a Capitalist country and I don't work for free.

I discriminate against smokers because:

A. The smell of smoke is icky and yucky, it makes my hair and clothes stink and I hate walking into a bar/restaurant where people are smoking. So rather than take advantage of the free market and go somewhere that is voluntarily smoke free, I would rather use the power of the state to impose my personal preference on my fellow citizens.

A1. My __________ (choose one: Dad, Mom, Uncle, Aunt, Grandfather, Grandmother, older sister, brother, babysitter, next door neighbor, mailman) abused me by smoking ________(choose one: Marlboro, Merit, Kool, crack, Camel, Kent, marijuana) in the __________ (choose one: house, car, bar, juvenile detention center) when I was a kid.

B. My beloved ___________ (choose one: husband, wife, father, mother, brother, sister, nephew, niece, uncle, aunt, maid, dog, cat, goldfish, gay lover) died from _________(choose one: cancer, heart disease, emphysema, car crash, train wreck, terrorist attack, sting ray) because of their smoking.

C. I smoked for _____ (years) and now I am ________ (choose one: missing it, sick, dead, born again, enlightened, ashamed of myself, if I can't do it, nobody can) and want to share my experience with others.

D. The Big Tobacco companies are lying scumbags and must pay! (you're not coming down off the mountain with the tablets there)

E. I represent Big Pharmaceutical interests that benefit from the anti-smoking movement because it increases the sales of our Nicotine Replacement Therapy (NRT) products.

F. I am a deeply caring individual in the mold of Mother Theresa and I am speaking out due to my benevolent, philanthropic, altruistic concern about the health of my fellow man.

G. I am a research scientist and grant junky, and if I don't tow the party line my grant money will disappear.

H. I'm just a garden variety Fascist and Totalitarian and get a ______ (choose one: cheap thrill, natural high, erection, orgasm) by imposing my will on other people.

I. I am a retard who believes in bogus studies, junk science, the Easter Bunny and the Toothfairy. I fear that because I walked into a bar on Spring Break in 1987, and was exposed to Second Hand Smoke I now suffer from ______(choose one: AIDS, Herpes, Athletes Foot, Jock Itch, male pattern baldness, or genital warts)

J. I am a disgruntled, prissy and angry employee of a ______(choose one: bar, restaurant, club, casino) who can't leave the job because I am a _______(choose one: slave, indentured servant, sweatshop laborer, illegal immigrant) and had no idea there was smoking going on in the place before I took the job.

K. An elected public serpent, serving as a _____ (choose one: State Assemblywoman, Senator, Freeholder, city councilman, mayor) and I have failed miserably in my job and trying to tackle really tough problems like _____ (choose one: gang violence, income taxes, property taxes, crime, corruption), so I will support a smoking ban based on the talking points and literature that "M" has given me and claim that I have actually accomplished something to help my constituents.

L. A Socialist liberal Democrat who is desperate for Universal Healthcare so the proletariet will continue to keep me in power. But if I don't do something about the "demand side" health care costs caused by such global health menaces as _________ (choose one: Marlboro, Merit, Kool, Big Macs, Whoppers, Chicken McNuggets, Budweiser, Coors, Jack Daniels) my health care entitlement program will go ________ (choose your adjective: broke, belly up, bankrupt, insolvent).

M. A professional anti-tobacco activist who makes $450,000 per year. MY GOAL IS TO REDUCE SMOKING RATES FROM 25% TO BELOW 10%. KICKING THEM OUT OF THEIR FAVORITE BAR AND RESTAURANT IS JUST A SMALL STEP TO COERCE THEM TO QUIT. I DON'T EVEN BELIEVE THE SHS NONSENSE MYSELF! Don't you dare try to ban cigarettes, if you do I will have to go back to my previous job ______(choose one: prostitute, drug dealer, pimp, state assemblyman, mayor) where I won't make nearly as much money and the bank will foreclose on my seaside villa and repo my _______(choose one: Lexus, Mercedes, BMW, Hummer, Infiniti, Acura,Jaguar, Volvo, Bentley). I take advantage of the prejudices of categories A-L above to accomplish my goal.

N. I am a Religious Fundamentalist who believes that smoking is strictly forbidden in the ______(choose one: Qu'ran, Bible, Torah, Old Testament, New Testament, David Wells' autobiography "Perfect I'm Not", Hustler Magazine)

O. I don't fit any of the above categories, I just like to argue with people.

47 posted on 09/12/2007 8:09:11 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping!


48 posted on 09/12/2007 9:36:18 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: lowbridge

The ban isn’t on single family homes. It is only enforced if someone complains about it in a multi-family dwelling.

So if I don’t smoke, and the smoke is coming into my apartment and I get sick from it, I can complain and the ban can be enforced.

If no one complains, no problem.

I think it just means don’t let the smoke get through the ventilation system and you’ll be fine.

The patterned the law like noise laws. You can listen to music as loud as you want until someone complains about it.


49 posted on 09/12/2007 11:25:14 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Eric Blair 2084

That is just plain OUTSTANDING!!!!!


50 posted on 09/13/2007 5:26:04 AM PDT by bfree (liberalism is the enemy of freedom!!!)
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To: elkfersupper

From:

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/facts/allergicdiseases.htm

“Allergic people have very sensitive mucous membranes, which can be irritated by lots of different substances including smoke, pollution, cooking smells, perfume and strong odours. Children who are often exposed to passive smoking are more at risk of developing allergic reactions.”


51 posted on 09/13/2007 10:03:37 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom
“Allergic people have very sensitive mucous membranes, which can be irritated by lots of different substances including smoke, pollution, cooking smells, perfume and strong odours. Children who are often exposed to passive smoking are more at risk of developing allergic reactions.”

Then, all those people should get themselves into a bubble as soon as possible and leave the rest of us alone.

52 posted on 09/13/2007 7:03:13 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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