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I don't normally use WTF. But I felt an exception was warranted in this particular situation, since liberals are such big champions of women's rights. Except of course as it turns out, for Muslim women. They can be forced to wear a veil - there is nothing "voluntary" about a woman's having to hide her face from the world. So here we have a liberal rabbi declaring before a conference of Islamists such a reactionary practice is in his words, "worthy of respect." That's the meaning of the shift from traditional moral values to multiculturalism and tolerance - on the Religious Left, typified in the head of Reform Judaism's pandering to the enemies of our Judeo-Christian civilization.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 09/10/2007 9:48:00 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
Rabbi Yoffie should have no objection to his daughter wearing a yellow star.
2 posted on 09/10/2007 9:56:17 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Zimbabwe, leftist success story, the envy of Venezuela)
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To: goldstategop
In the long history of women's inequality, it is difficult to name almost anything more anti-woman, dehumanizing and degrading than the veil.

I can easily think of something more "anti-woman" and "dehumanizing" than the veil. Female Genital Mutilation aka female circumcision is far worse...and permanent.

3 posted on 09/10/2007 9:57:30 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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There should be a law requiring the veil be removed for certain situations involving police, ID photos, etc etc, but I also think that if they want to walk around in public looking like Cousin It from the 7th century than let em.
4 posted on 09/10/2007 10:11:06 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: goldstategop
Head Of Reform Judaism Says Wearing Veil Should Be Respected

Hey, if there were no veils, how could you have a "Dance of the Seven Veils"?

5 posted on 09/10/2007 10:22:22 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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Well, speaking as someone of Jewish ancestry, this rabbi’s statements made the hair on the back of neck stand on end.

He is seeking dhimmitude. He is willing to live a second-class status as a second-class citizen. He is like the fools believing that they could quietly tiptoe around the czar. He is a metaphor for the German Jew climbing on the train that the Nazis promised would bring them to the Promised Land.

There is a Yiddish word for guys like this, too. The word is “schmuck.”


6 posted on 09/10/2007 10:23:38 PM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: goldstategop; Alouette

Let’s be honest. Yoffie has far more in common with Islamists in destroying western civilization than with the most fundamentalist Jews, who only wish to be left alone. Where any of his female relatives to wear a scarf, as properly mandated in the Bible, he would flip.


7 posted on 09/10/2007 10:40:26 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: goldstategop

Reform Judaism is diluted near beer.


10 posted on 09/10/2007 11:09:09 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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Whatttttt ??


11 posted on 09/10/2007 11:21:24 PM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: goldstategop
Whatever we do, we shouldn't respect a woman's right to wear a veil or whatever version of dressing modestly she chooses! It's so much more enlightened to look at women as victims who can't make up their own little minds over what to wear voluntarily.

Next thing you know, they'll be voluntarily wearing bras, hiding from their grooms on wedding days, holding back against their urges on the first date, etc.

I'm looking for the FReeper morality squads to start tearing off those oppressive veils at weddings! After all, such a thing can only be a horror!

This idea of respecting peoples' own decisions is dangerous. Someday, it might even be suggested that we let people make their own decision on whether they want their genetalia mutilated or not, rather than us just imposing it on infants!

And don't get me started on those women who choose to wear clothes at all! Sheesh, the whole idea of a woman voluntarily choosing to cover up her beautiful body...why the horror of it!



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Amazing how straightforward anti-Islam urges turn supposed-conservatives into nanny do-gooders. While the rabbi does the Moral-equivalence Two-step--and that is rightfully criticized--the author does his own dance...the Twist. Is it inherently oppressive that Western women don't choose to run around topless like the images in National Geographic? Sheesh. Opression would be if they didn't have the choice.

12 posted on 09/11/2007 3:21:14 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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Dennis Prager is right on this one. Unlike a devout RC woman who would wear a veil or hat to church or a nun, who made the choice, there is no freedom NOT to wear the veil. If my memory is correct, there is a YouTube video of a man beating a female family member in a Muslim family, forcing her to put on the veil. It is a form of oppressing of women in Islam.


13 posted on 09/11/2007 3:39:02 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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