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HillaryCare Packaged With SCHIP
Human Events ^ | 09/10/2007 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 09/10/2007 10:00:17 AM PDT by V.Foster

Edited on 09/10/2007 11:50:57 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Conservatives have spent the past month gearing up for the SCHIP fight, calling it a new-look HillaryCare. They have plenty of data to show the dangerous fiscal consequences of heading down this path, such as the reliance on tobacco taxes to pay for SCHIP’s expansion. The House bill raises cigarette taxes by 45 cents per pack, and the Senate bill increases them by 61 cents. Tax hikes of that magnitude, causing many people to stop smoking, would be disastrous for state finances. In addition, millions of Americans would have to start smoking to pay for this new federal entitlement.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; healthcare; hillary; schip

1 posted on 09/10/2007 10:00:18 AM PDT by V.Foster
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To: V.Foster

Ask the people from Tennessee about these types of programs.

Cigarette taxes. Sheesh.....


2 posted on 09/10/2007 10:02:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: V.Foster

P=T


3 posted on 09/10/2007 10:02:33 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: NonValueAdded

Thats it...I’m gonna quit smoking just so there won’t be funding for this socialist program.


4 posted on 09/10/2007 10:09:38 AM PDT by DirtyPigpen
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To: DirtyPigpen
I quit smoking 8 weeks ago when they were talking about an additional $1/pack Fed tax, we just got hit with the $1/pack state tax in TX. Bad part is, if we all quit, they'll just go after our beer next. Now that could start a revolt, LOL!
5 posted on 09/10/2007 10:27:05 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

NO, not my beer. I would have to start making my own again, like I did in Saudi Arabia.


6 posted on 09/10/2007 12:10:49 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: AppyPappy

I tend to think that staffers mirror what their Congresspeople bosses think. I just pulled this from Capitolist.

Everyone else getting hammered by the smokers calling about
the cigarette tax? It just makes me want to tax the ba$tard$ more...


7 posted on 09/10/2007 12:43:51 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana; Gabz

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Filthy ba$tards. They wouldn’t dare say this about ANY other group.


8 posted on 09/10/2007 4:52:36 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (It's always open season on RHINOs(yes, I use an "H" in it))
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To: V.Foster; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ..

Nanny state Ping.........

New bumpersticker slogans:

“Thank a smoker if your child has healthcare”

“Start smoking: It’s for the children”

“Smoking bans hurt children”

“Tobacco taxes hurt children”

I love it, the moonbats would totally freak out........


9 posted on 09/10/2007 5:43:47 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: AppyPappy

Prohibition didn’t work either. It’ll just go to the black market.

Around here,people go to the Indian reservation for cigarettes if they want them cheap, and lots do.


10 posted on 09/10/2007 5:49:00 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Gabz

Meant to ping ya earlier: Nanny State, Thy Name is Wisconsin!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1894297/posts


11 posted on 09/10/2007 5:51:08 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: metmom

“Prohibition didn’t work either. It’ll just go to the black market.”

I’ve already got my 1/4 acre set aside for the “personal use” of growing smoking tobacco.

Off course, since I don’t smoke, it won’t be exactly for MY personal use, but it will be for SOMEONE’S personal use. ;)

If those IDIOTS in Washington knew what a robust underground economy there already is in ANY sector of our economy, they’d be sh*ttin’ green because they haven’t been able to tax us since Time Began.

I hate taxes. I live to avoid them by all legal means possible. These jerks only inspire me to dig in my heels all the harder. :)


12 posted on 09/10/2007 5:57:20 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I’ve already got my 1/4 acre set aside for the “personal use” of growing smoking tobacco.

Cut that back, dear. You are only permitted 1/10th acre.

Beyond that, I agree with you wholeheartedly!!!!!!

13 posted on 09/10/2007 6:27:20 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz; Diana in Wisconsin

And better measure carefully. You can bet they will if they come checking.


14 posted on 09/10/2007 6:46:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I hate taxes. I live to avoid them by all legal means possible. These jerks only inspire me to dig in my heels all the harder. :)

My heroine.

15 posted on 09/10/2007 6:47:31 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Gabz

Ooooops! I was only off by 6/10th. I’m CERTAIN the Feds will overlook that while I “smile and wave...sittin’ there on that sack of seeds.”

LOL! :)


16 posted on 09/10/2007 6:51:30 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: metmom

Join me!

I have GOT to find some way to contact every Housewife across America and convince her that she pays way too much in taxes on whatever she earns and certainly on what her husband earns, should he be gainfully employed as well, LOL!

Any ideas?


17 posted on 09/10/2007 6:53:21 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: metmom; Diana in Wisconsin
My heroine.

Diana is my idol.........

18 posted on 09/10/2007 7:06:43 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

No need to convince me. I live in New York- The Vampire State.

How to beat taxes?

Garage sale.

Go right to the farmer.

Barter with friends and neighbors for services.

Grow your own.

Make your own Christmas presents. I’ve done AG doll clothes for nieces, given canned goods to in-laws.

Go to Salvation Army Thrift stores where you can sometimes get name brand goods with the price tag on them. That way you don’t pay as much for the clothes so pay less taxes.

I’m somewhat at a loss about how to contact housewives, though.

What am I missing?


19 posted on 09/10/2007 8:23:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 09/10/2007 8:51:28 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: metmom

“What am I missing?”

Not much, LOL!

* Day old bread stores are great. I can get a HUGE trash bag of bread and other goodies (Sara Lee brand, etc.) for $2. Of course, I need to sign a waiver that it’s strictly for animal feed only, but when the bread is only ONE DAY over its legal self-life and there’s room in the freezer... ;)

* Selling items on eBay and Amazon.com and a local website helps me. Haven’t used Craigs List yet, but others swear by it.

* Gleaning fields & wild food foraging. Hunting & fishing. There’s an amazing amount of food out there for the taking (with permission.) Heck, you can make a salad from things you find in your lawn if you really need to, LOL! I already have two Canada goose breasts in the freezer...and we’re only a week into the season. :)

A website would probably be the best venue for reaching women that think like we do. (You know; those of us worth our weight in ‘Rubies’ to our families.)

Someday! :)


21 posted on 09/11/2007 6:01:34 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ve planted raspberry, blackberry, strawberry, and blueberry bushes. Sure there’s the initial expense, but with the cost of those things in the store, I figure I’ll get my money back pretty soon, and it’s just in the backyard. No traveling for it.

I also make all my trips in one loop. I just plan it ahead and don’t have to waste gas running to the store for something I forgot.


22 posted on 09/11/2007 6:26:25 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

“I also make all my trips in one loop. I just plan it ahead and don’t have to waste gas running to the store for something I forgot.”

Me, too. I shop once a week. If it’s not on the list, I don’t get it. If we need it between trips, unless it’s vital medicine, too bad. :)

I’m actually scaling back my shopping trip today. I was going to go to the next town over and hit Wal-Mart, but I think I’ll just stick local today and save gas and time. :)

(That also leaves me more time to Freep today, LOL!)


23 posted on 09/11/2007 6:29:22 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: V.Foster

So sad to see where this country’s going.


24 posted on 09/11/2007 6:32:29 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: V.Foster

Crock of SCHIP


25 posted on 09/11/2007 6:33:58 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: metmom
I’m somewhat at a loss about how to contact housewives, though.

What am I missing?

Shoe sale?

26 posted on 09/11/2007 6:36:47 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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