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Atheist couple wants 'God' out of Texas pledge
Dallas Morning News ^ | 8/29/2007 | Katherine Leal Unmuth

Posted on 08/29/2007 5:11:46 AM PDT by Dudoight

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To: GraniteStateConservative
The US is a federation, not a confederation.

I'm having trouble finding this in the constitution of the United States. Could you direct me to the particular section which stipulates that we are a Federation and not a Confederation ?

41 posted on 08/29/2007 7:21:18 AM PDT by Timocrat (I Emanate on your Auras and Penumbras Mr Blackmun)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Then secede if you don’t want to be in the federation that is the United States of America, the Union.

A group of southern states tried this in the 19th Century and were invaded by a group of northern states who wanted the southern states to buy their tariff protected expensive industrial goods.

42 posted on 08/29/2007 7:26:06 AM PDT by Timocrat (I Emanate on your Auras and Penumbras Mr Blackmun)
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To: Dudoight
Atheist couple wants 'God' out of Texas pledge

God wants atheist couple out of Texas.

43 posted on 08/29/2007 7:27:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: SQUID

Blaming the atrocities of the USSR and Communist China on atheism is like blaming the color yellow when a school bus runs you over.


44 posted on 08/29/2007 7:28:13 AM PDT by LiveBait
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To: Dudoight

“atheists can live in texas...”

imho... i don’t think they’re atheists. instead, they are subversives hiding behind what doesn’t exist in the constitution; it says ‘congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion OR the free exercise thereof’. they always seem to disregard ‘the free exercise thereof’, subverting the meaning of ‘establishment of religion’.
imho, they are nothing but communist revolutionaries who need to get rid of G-d in public life so that their revolution can fill the void left vacant by a rejection of G-d.

(get ready for the hillary! show, coming to a re-education camp near you in 2008.)


45 posted on 08/29/2007 8:04:17 AM PDT by ripley
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To: mc5cents; massgopguy

“Sheesh. I know people who ADD words to the pledge of allegiance. They add ...born and unborn after with liberty and justice for all”

Going to court always tells the tale. This isn’t something they want done for themselves or for their kids. They want to tell you what is best for you and your kids. What is so dishonest and ironic is that they always dress themselves up as the victim.


46 posted on 08/29/2007 8:14:59 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: LiveBait
I see, so you think communism is a religious ideology that didn’t see “The Church” as a problem with it’s intent on controlling the population.

Another point: Tell me, what Atheist organizations have raised money, medicine, food, clothes, shelter and gave to the poor or refugees in war torn parts of the world like the Catholic Church, Red Cross or Salvation Army? Next thing you will tell me is that the Red Cross is not a religious symbol.

The fact is my friend, you currently enjoy what Christianity has given whether you believe it or not. Freedom.

Next thing you will tell me is that there is no such thing as divine law in the Constitution.

47 posted on 08/29/2007 8:27:01 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: Timocrat
A group of southern states tried this in the 19th Century and were invaded by a group of northern states who wanted the southern states to buy their tariff protected expensive industrial goods.

Are southerners just sore losers?

48 posted on 08/29/2007 10:32:31 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: antisocial
Well, I would too if I lived in New Hampshire, however, Texans (real Texans) have as much if not more loyalty to their state than to the US.

They're traitors then, with improper loyalties.

49 posted on 08/29/2007 10:33:42 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Are southerners just sore losers?

Southerners at that time made the mistake of thinking that the populations of the northern states could A. Read and B. Understand the US Constitution. A mistake the present Southerners are unlikely to repeat.

50 posted on 08/29/2007 11:18:41 AM PDT by Timocrat (I Emanate on your Auras and Penumbras Mr Blackmun)
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To: Dudoight

The family of “non-believers” I knew while growing up had four children. Two of those children are reportedly doing fine. One joined a cult twenty years ago and she has been lost to it ever since. The fourth is a member of a “religion” so extreme that the leader refuses to name it.

I do not wish ill on the children of the atheists in Dallas. I’m just saying....


51 posted on 08/29/2007 11:31:29 AM PDT by Rightfootforward
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Sorry if I ticked you...but I do love Texas, its individuality, its history and it does have a unique character. I love this country too...I just don’t want it to lose what lose itself in the liberal secular progressive centered values. Once this entire nation had the spirit and patriotism and values that only Texans seem to hold.

God Bless America and God Bless Texas.


52 posted on 08/29/2007 1:13:13 PM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Dudoight

You didn’t make me the least bit angry. There’s hardly anything stupider than getting angry about something written on a message board.

I like Texas just fine. It’s a great state.


53 posted on 08/29/2007 1:16:13 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: ishabibble

Paul Harvey said that that atheist wrote in her journal four times something can’t I find one person to like me? I guess someone liked her money.


54 posted on 08/29/2007 6:07:29 PM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: SQUID

I employed a bit of hyperbole, I admit, but you are putting words in my mouth. I have nothing against Christianity, and am not trying to argue that Christians don’t do good in the world.

I won’t cite any “atheist” organizations, but there are secular organizations, such as Doctors without Borders (and the Red Cross, despite their religious symbolism, they are not a religious organization).

As far as the original point goes, communists in Russia and China and elsewhere did a lot of sick things for a lot of sick reasons. Was one of them religious? Yes. But plenty of atrocities had very little to do with religion.

Similarly, religion surely played a part in the framing of the constitution and the building of our freedoms, a central part, even, but there were other influences as well.


55 posted on 08/30/2007 1:49:29 PM PDT by LiveBait
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