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In Iran, Feeling the Heat (The Shah blamed London much more than Washington)
Washington Post ^ | April 15, 2007 | Jim Hoagland

Posted on 08/25/2007 4:19:22 PM PDT by freedom44

Dying from cancer a quarter-century ago, the deposed Shah of Iran pressed on me a fundamental point about his nation that has become even more vivid over the past two weeks. What the Shah said, and almost said, then sheds light on the current confrontation between Iran and the world's great powers.

Mohammad Reza Pahlavi died weeks after our 1980 conversation in Cairo. It has taken the ayatollahs and other Islamic radicals who followed him to reveal how far backward, and forward, stretched the deeper meanings of the words he spoke, which had to be condensed into a conventional news story on that May day.

Iran is after all a place where reality usually comes not in words but in meaningful details that underlie -- and often belie -- the words. Fooling foreigners and adversaries is an ancient Persian art form. Saying exactly what you mean is a crude and dangerous way to talk, or to negotiate.

Such a telling detail lay beneath the Shah's descriptions to me of how, in his opinion, the British and American governments deliberately helped Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini bring down his regime in 1979. His bitter Anglophobia came to mind again the other day as I watched film of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad blustering his way through the histrionic release of 15 British military captives and then, in the days that followed, defying the world anew over Iran's nuclear ambitions.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: iran; pahlavi; shah; shahofiran
"What happened in Iran was a very well

orchestrated conspiracy from the outside".

The late Shahanshah's exact words In an interview with David Frost in April 1980, Panama.

1 posted on 08/25/2007 4:19:23 PM PDT by freedom44
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On or off the Iran ping list.
2 posted on 08/25/2007 4:20:01 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44
[Shah: "The Americans had been children playing at complicated games of power and espionage.."]

He would be talking about Carter there...

3 posted on 08/25/2007 4:36:22 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Shah: "The Americans had been children playing at complicated games of power and espionage.."]

He would be talking about Carter there...

People keep apologizing for Carter by claiming he is an innocent chilldlike bumbling fool. I rather think Carter is a dyed in the wool communist as much a traitor as Alger Hiss.

4 posted on 08/25/2007 4:46:06 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
“I rather think Carter is a dyed in the wool communist as much a traitor as Alger Hiss.”

I don’t know that he’s a communist, but he is certainly a leftist and an enemy of both America and the broader West.

I don’t believe that we was actually a traitor while in office — just an incompetent fool — but, he became so after the American people dumped him after one term of office. From that point forward, he has been dedicated to payback.

5 posted on 08/25/2007 4:51:03 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: freedom44

The author provide a useful glimpse of and insight into the history leading to the current situation, but I believe his conclusions are wrong. We are long past the point where diplomatic “engagement” can stop the current Iranian regime from acquiring and then using nuclear weapons.


6 posted on 08/25/2007 4:54:51 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: vetsvette; LoneRangerMassachusetts
I don’t believe that we was actually a traitor while in office — just an incompetent fool — but, he became so after the American people dumped him after one term of office. From that point forward, he has been dedicated to payback.

I agree. With Carter it's not nearly as ideological as it is personal. He has never gotten over the fact that the American voters did not just unelect him, they repudiated him, and it has pushed him over the edge. He may not consciously realize it, but he actually hates his country now.

7 posted on 08/25/2007 4:59:56 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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I don’t believe that we was actually a traitor while in office — just an incompetent fool — but, he became so after the American people dumped him after one term of office.

Probably the reason that Jimmuh loves dictators.

He discovered the advantages of being "President for Life" when he was dumped.

He really hasn't gotten over it to this day.

8 posted on 08/25/2007 6:53:38 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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All this talk of Carter forgets he was a blackmailing sleazebag. Check this FIRST HAND story for details.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2004/03/jimmy-carters-illegal-demands-on-shah.html


9 posted on 08/25/2007 9:23:22 PM PDT by FARS ( Good Thoughts (lead to) Good Words, (which together) lead to Good Deeds)
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Thanks for the ping!


10 posted on 08/25/2007 9:47:18 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


11 posted on 08/25/2007 11:02:16 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: FARS

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1886546/posts?page=64#64

I posted more info on Carter and several connected googles.

Thanks for the ping.


12 posted on 08/25/2007 11:07:56 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (This is "Be an Angel Day", do something nice for someone today.)
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Ping.


13 posted on 08/25/2007 11:10:20 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (This is "Be an Angel Day", do something nice for someone today.)
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Thanks for the info, FARS. Stay well ....................... FRegards

14 posted on 08/26/2007 1:05:31 AM PDT by gonzo (In Florida, inmates make cigarettes in jail that I buy, and I can go to jail for smoking one! WTF?)
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Thanks FARS.


15 posted on 08/26/2007 11:20:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Saturday, August 25, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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