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The CIA vs. Scarborough
Human Events Online ^ | July 27, 2007 | Jed Babbin

Posted on 08/25/2007 10:12:07 AM PDT by ChessExpert

On July 20, the CIA issued the most extraordinary press release. Director of Public Affairs Mike Mansfield wrote:

We generally don't comment on books, but we have departed from that on occasion, and have decided to do so in connection with Rowan Scarborough's new book, "Sabotage: America's Enemies Within the CIA."

(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bookreview; cia; jedbabbin; roguecia; rowanscarborough; sabotage; treason; wot
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The column author is a former deputy undersecretary of defense, who made the career change to journalism. He says "the great preponderance of the evidence is on Scarborough’s side, not on Mansfield’s."

Good discussion of CIA leaks and their effects.

1 posted on 08/25/2007 10:12:07 AM PDT by ChessExpert
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To: ChessExpert

You know the CIA must be the least effective, least secret agency in the history of the world.


2 posted on 08/25/2007 10:14:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Donate to Vets For Freedom! http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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You know the CIA must be the least effective, least secret agency in the history of the world.

And yet the conspiracy nuts attribute the CIA with everything from the Kennedy assassination to the destruction of the Twin Towers and everything in between.

I saw an interview with a CIA (former) agent once and he said "If we could do everything people think we can do it would require the combined efforts of every human being on the planet and all of it would be common knowledge."

L

3 posted on 08/25/2007 10:17:39 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: MNJohnnie

To quote Jim Traficant.

“They’re so stupid they could throw themselves at the ground and miss.”


4 posted on 08/25/2007 10:18:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: ChessExpert

Sabotage is a great read!


5 posted on 08/25/2007 10:19:36 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: cripplecreek

Considering how leaky the CIA is, how corrupt the US Congress is and how inept FEMA is, one has to wonder just WHY anyone thinks giving the Goverement anymore control over anything would be a good idea.

Outside the US Military, can anyone show me a Govt bureacracy this is efficent, well run and effective?


6 posted on 08/25/2007 10:21:17 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Donate to Vets For Freedom! http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: cripplecreek

Traficant does have a way with words even if he is in the slammer. lol


7 posted on 08/25/2007 10:22:07 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: ChessExpert

Nothin will be done about the CIA leaks. The Democrats want them.


8 posted on 08/25/2007 10:29:56 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: jazusamo

His one liners alone were worth keeping him around. Also he was pretty conservative on most issues.


9 posted on 08/25/2007 10:30:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Considering how leaky the CIA is, how corrupt the US Congress is and how inept FEMA is, one has to wonder just WHY anyone thinks giving the Goverement anymore control over anything would be a good idea.

The gov't has failed us on every level.

The borders are not secure.

Illegal aliens are turned back into society even when they commit crimes.

Drugs are rampant even after a 40 year "war on drugs"

Crime goes unnoticed and excused. Convicts are given sentences that are laughable.

Our bridges and infrastructure are falling apart even though tax revenues are at all-time highs.

Our roads are clogged as expansion is blocked.

Our skies are clogged as changes are blocked.

And it goes on and on and on........

10 posted on 08/25/2007 10:31:15 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Outside the US Military, can anyone show me a Govt bureacracy this is efficent, well run and effective?

I don't know about efficient or well run, but the IRS is effective.

That fact alone speaks volumes about the priorities of government.

11 posted on 08/25/2007 10:32:39 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: MNJohnnie

Course the Bordernuts think the gummit can solve that problem. Incoming!!

Pray for W and Our Troops


12 posted on 08/25/2007 10:33:36 AM PDT by bray (Member of the FR President Bush underground)
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From the article:

"We don’t know who leaked the CIA secret terrorist prisons in Eastern Europe, the NSA terrorist surveillance program, or the cooperation of the Belgian “SWIFT” consortium in tracing and disrupting terrorist financing. But those leaks -- as Cong. Pete Hoekstra (former chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and now ranking Republican on one of its subcommittees) told me Thursday -- have damaged our capabilities in the war against the terrorist groups and the nations that support them. The damage is enormous, resulting in changed behavior of nations who -- before the leaks -- were cooperating secretly with us and can no longer because the cooperation was revealed."

Well, here's one suggestion - Mary O. McCarthy.
13 posted on 08/25/2007 10:34:52 AM PDT by khnyny (The best minds are not in government. If they were, business would hire them away. Ronald Reagan)
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One point which Jed didn't cite, but I will:

Since the objective of these leaks has been to discredit the Bush Administration and Republicans, I conclude that those responsible are doing so benefit DEMOCRATS in gaining control of the government to push a socialist agenda. Thus, the GREAT HARM which has been suffered by our national security was caused by Democrats and Democrat sympathizers within the CIA.

Sarborough and Babbin: 1

Mansfield: 0

14 posted on 08/25/2007 10:36:34 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I served 20 years in the AF and I hesitate to call the military eficient. It just so happens that a military’s performance is graded against other countries military forces which are also govt sponsored. Given that criteria the US military is outstanding.


15 posted on 08/25/2007 10:40:24 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
The gov't has failed us on every level.

Yeah, but they sure know how to spend money.

The FdGov Motto should be: "You may find better quality, but you will never spend more"

16 posted on 08/25/2007 10:41:00 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: ChessExpert
From the column:

The Democrats’ call for a special counsel to investigate Gonzales’ statements to Congress is, mostly, political puffery. The real problem in the Justice Department is not the firings of US attorneys. Ask yourself: why haven’t the leakers of the CIA secret prisons, the SWIFT program’s cooperation, and the NSA terrorist surveillance program been discovered and prosecuted?

An excellent question. Why hasn't the administration been more aggressive at finding and prosecuting the leakers?

17 posted on 08/25/2007 10:42:05 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: ChessExpert

“I don’t know about efficient or well run, but the IRS is effective”
They are not very effective in policing the underground economy produced by employers using illegal aliens. There are billions of dollars in Texas alone going unreported by the illegal employment of Mexicans in homes and businesses. Collection of those taxes could support the government for a long time and perhaps help out in impact that the illegals have here.


18 posted on 08/25/2007 10:44:00 AM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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To: ChessExpert

Scarborough was on C-SPAN a few days ago talking about his book. A hostile questioner in the audience, who said he had served in the CIA (probably retired), claimed that 80% of the people in the CIA were Republicans. I would guess the guy was a Democrat who was unhappy that everyone there wasn’t of his way of thinking...but even 20% would mean a lot of potential leakers able to cause trouble for a Republican administration.


19 posted on 08/25/2007 10:55:26 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: STARWISE

Looks like I missed this on my summer reading list- will remedy this week:)


20 posted on 08/25/2007 10:57:58 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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