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Why are libraries homeless shelters?
Kansas.com ^ | Aug. 10, 2007 | Randy Scholfield

Posted on 08/16/2007 9:28:44 AM PDT by Lorianne

A homeless man was arrested this week at the downtown Central Library after allegedly masturbating in a back aisle and then pulling a knife on a librarian who was trying to escort him out of the building.

A security guard used a Taser on the man, who was arrested by police and charged with multiple offenses, from lascivious conduct to aggravated battery.

No one, luckily, was injured or killed in the incident.

But it's an ugly reminder of a community problem hidden in plain sight.

On any given day, you'll find a group of homeless regulars at the Central Library, ensconced at tables or slouched in chairs.

Most of the time, they cause no problems. Sometimes, though, they ruffle the serene surface of public life.

By talking loudly. Bothering other patrons.

Smelling bad.

Their presence typically arouses annoyance in Wichitans, or revulsion.

What we should feel is shame.

Recently I read a provocative essay by Chip Ward, former assistant director of the Salt Lake City public library system.

He wrote about this nation's dirty little secret: How our libraries have become de facto daytime shelters for the homeless -- and librarians have become de facto social workers.

All because of our nation's ongoing failure to address the problems facing the homeless.

Ward wrote about the daily challenges librarians face in dealing with "street people," the chronically homeless who, he points out, usually are suffering from a mental illness or drug or alcohol addiction, or both.

Social agencies and shelters are often overwhelmed, underfunded and unavailable during the day.

"So, like it or not, we are ushered into the ranks of auxiliary social workers with no resources whatsoever."

Librarians often do make a difference, though, just by treating the homeless with respect and caring attention.

Library director Cynthia Berner-Harris, when I talked to her a while back on this subject, told me the staff tries hard to treat homeless patrons with sensitivity and dignity, as they would any other customer.

By and large, there are no problems. You might find the homeless playing chess or reading magazines, she said.

Still, some of the homeless have substance abuse problems.

"We're not necessarily trained to deal with that," Berner-Harris told me. "Sometimes it's a struggle for us."

Perhaps the biggest challenge is "keeping these folks awake."

They can't sleep in the library, because staff need to know they aren't suffering a health problem.

In Wichita, librarians have received training in homeless issues. And the library has a "terrific relationship," she said, with several service agencies.

But Ward wrote that no matter how caring and helpful librarians are, sometimes they face no good options -- and "in the end, we just call the cops."

That's what happened the other day at the library. I'm not sure about the specific case of this 58-year-old homeless man -- whether he suffers from a mental illness or other health problem.

But the incident highlights how the homeless problem, left unaddressed, often becomes criminalized.

It's a symptom of neglect and failure on our part.

"When the mentally ill whom we have thrown onto the streets haunt our public places, their presence tells us something important about the state of our union, our national character, our priorities, and our capacity to care for one another," Ward argued in his essay.

"What do you think about a culture that abandons suffering people and expects them to fend for themselves on the street, then criminalizes them for expressing the symptoms of illnesses they cannot control?"

Wichita, which prides itself on its family friendliness, isn't a very friendly place to the homeless and sick living on our streets.

It's a blind spot in our moral vision.

After more than a decade of "temporary" emergency shelters, city leaders have yet to come up with a comprehensive plan for helping these lost souls.

The homeless task force appointed last year is still holding meetings.

Where is the urgency?

Homeless people, Berner-Harris stressed, have a right to use the library, just like other citizens.

Some of them, though, are struggling with serious mental illness and addictions, and the library doesn't have the resources to help them.

When they're sick, they don't belong in the library, or a jail cell. They belong in treatment.

Until we provide better services and real homes for them, they'll continue to haunt our public places.

To our shame.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: aclu; collective; homeless; liberalcompassion; library; mentalillness; statehospitals
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1 posted on 08/16/2007 9:28:47 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

The public library in downtown Seattle is a homeless shelter. It reeks of urine, vomit, and body odor. They are a waste of taxpayer money in the internet age, and an extremely expensive way to warehouse bums.


2 posted on 08/16/2007 9:30:42 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: Lorianne

This article deserves a barf alert.


3 posted on 08/16/2007 9:32:26 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Lorianne

His observation is correct, his explanation sucks. Would you rather hang out with a bunch of bums at a homeless shelter or at a library where you get nice comfortable chairs, a clean bathroom, plenty of reading material, maybe cd’s to listen to and even free coffee? Plus, there is the chance they might try to throw you out and you could win big bucks in a civil rights lawsuit!


4 posted on 08/16/2007 9:33:17 AM PDT by Jack Wilson
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To: Lorianne
Until we provide better services and real homes for them, they'll continue to haunt our public places

I'll get banned if I say what I want to in response to this drivel.
5 posted on 08/16/2007 9:34:00 AM PDT by chrisser
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To: Lorianne
All because of our nation's ongoing failure to address the problems facing the homeless.

Every time a mayor or governor attempts to "address the problems" the ACLU and other Leftist crazies swoop in to stop it.

According to them, the homeless have a basic human right to stink and pee and yell vulgarities.

6 posted on 08/16/2007 9:35:13 AM PDT by picard (Liberal: ability to supplant reality with multiple truths which are all in opposition to each other)
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To: Lorianne

—the ACLU—


7 posted on 08/16/2007 9:36:35 AM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Lorianne
I usde to live in Sarasota, Fla. recently, and they have a beautiful downtown library. When you walked in, though, the smell of B.O. would practically knock you down.

Bums were all over the place, camped out in the chairs and sometimes sitting at tables staring ahead of them into space, with a volume of the "Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature" or something open in front of them.

Maybe if they got their asses kicked out there would be some tiny, little less incentive to choose that kind of a life.
8 posted on 08/16/2007 9:39:51 AM PDT by hemogoblin (Islam -- it's all the rage)
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To: Lorianne

Bingo. I quit going to the main public library in my city years and years ago for this very reason. It’s a disgrace.


9 posted on 08/16/2007 9:39:51 AM PDT by mojito
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To: picard

Exactly. Many state hospitals for mentally ill people were closed, and this was due to pressure from liberal pressure groups about the civil rights of these people.

So there would be civil rights lawsuits if we tried to lock up these people.

Its’ really heartbreaking about these homeless people. Yet are we supposed to just tolerate their uncivilized behavior, no matter what causes it?

Where do their rights end and ours begin?

Is there a civil right to defecate in public? To urinate in public? To masterbate or copulate in public? Where are we as a society going to draw these lines?


10 posted on 08/16/2007 9:40:22 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Lorianne
Why are libraries homeless shelters?

Easy answer - the liberal federal judges turned the mentally ill out of the hospitals that used to keep them.

11 posted on 08/16/2007 9:42:24 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Lorianne
When they're sick, they don't belong in the library, or a jail cell. They belong in treatment.

Was this guy plucking belly button lint when his fellow liberals decided to shut down all the insane asylums?

12 posted on 08/16/2007 9:43:23 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Lorianne
Well, the answer is properly funded custodial care for the mentally ill...and somehow, liberals didn't like that, either.
13 posted on 08/16/2007 9:45:37 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The ACLU and most Leftists do not care one iota about people, homeless or not.

They are solely about generating anarchy and discord. And they seem to have no problem finding idiot judges to aid their agendas.

The actual issue, outcome, or people involved are all irrelevant to them.

14 posted on 08/16/2007 9:47:03 AM PDT by picard (Liberal: ability to supplant reality with multiple truths which are all in opposition to each other)
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To: Lorianne

Good Lord, save us from single sentence reports!

Didin’t these journalistic midgets learn about PARAGRAPHS in elementary, middle, high school and college? I can’t even read this piece. It reads like MTV “views”.


15 posted on 08/16/2007 9:52:44 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (There ain't no cure for "stupid" but the asylum is at the DNC HQ.)
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To: Lorianne

It’s a well known fact that the indigent are voracious readers.


16 posted on 08/16/2007 9:54:37 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: Lorianne
I don’t remember ever seeing homeless people in or around the library when I lived in Wichita 15 years ago. I spent a lot of time loitering around the area (by the river, on Douglas St., etc) and I don’t ever remember seeing one homeless person. Where did they all come from?

I certainly wouldn’t have my kids going to the library to study if there were homeless weirdos hanging out there. So, the result would be that the library is no longer used for its established purpose and is turned over to the homeless instead. They might as well remove the book shelves and replace them with cots.

17 posted on 08/16/2007 9:56:17 AM PDT by T.Smith
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To: picard

The same lefties who screamed about these people not being institutionalized are the same ones who will have no problem with President HRC or any other Democrat imposing the will of the federal government on every aspect of our lives.

And what is the solution to homelessness? How many more 100s of billions can be spent on social programs? It hasn’t solved the whole problem yet, has it.


18 posted on 08/16/2007 9:58:02 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Lorianne
This line is my favorite:

Until we provide better services and real homes for them

So... not only am I responsible for my own mortgage, home repairs, property taxes, etc -- I've got to shell out a real home for someone else too? My fridge came in a real nice cardboard box... they can have that.

Wow... and I don't even get cocktails and a nice dinner beforehand... (actually, I'd settle for a lite beer in a paper bag and Red Lobster...)

20 posted on 08/16/2007 10:05:35 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Un-dead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: TNCMAXQ

Having worked in a mental hospital for years it became apparent to me that most of the “mental” cases were there because of bad choices (ie drugs and alcohol). They had destroyed their bodies and minds with substance abuse. A very small percentage were actually mentally ill. They would come in, clean up, get their dental work and eyeglasses and then leave til the “next time”.

As long as these programs are funded there will be no lack of “mentally ill” freeloaders.


21 posted on 08/16/2007 10:06:26 AM PDT by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: skinnycook

What have you got against the word bums?


22 posted on 08/16/2007 10:09:58 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: skinnycook

As an individual who has worked with the homeless

Count me in also . We are called tax payers .


23 posted on 08/16/2007 10:12:07 AM PDT by dorben ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: RepoGirl

I found myself in need of a large box about the size of a 30 cu.ft. refrigerator carton and went to the local appliance store to ask if I could get one before they got tossed in the dumpster.

I was told that they cut them up before delivery, throw away the pieces just to keep from being blamed for making the homeless(bums) problems worse.


24 posted on 08/16/2007 10:13:08 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Lorianne

I remember a news story from years ago about a bum that got kicked out of a public library in NYC. He sued and won! This is probably why these bums are going to stay right were they are.


25 posted on 08/16/2007 10:16:10 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (All comments now being monitored by BOR. He's looking out for you!)
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To: Lorianne
But the incident highlights how the homeless problem, left unaddressed, often becomes criminalized.

Playing with his joystick in the library is not a "homeless problem" it's a "pervert problem."

26 posted on 08/16/2007 10:18:08 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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To: Lorianne

This is why we need to bring back institutions for the mentally ill. Some people can be treated and go on to live normal lives, but others cannot, and we cannot have such people running around and being a danger to self and others. State facilities for the chronically mentally ill should be revived and expanded.

State facilities for the mentally ill need not be expensive, however: army-style tent cities would be fine. These could be built on state-owned land and staffed by doctors and nurses working there in exchange for state-paid medical/nursing school tuition. Camps in agricultural areas could have a working farm or ranch to give the patients the opportunity to do productive, useful, and therapeitic work; other camps might specialize in conservation work (tree planting, state park maintenance, erosion control, etc.) or civil engineering (road building and maintenance, dam repairs, signmaking, etc.), but none would allow patients to skip medications or lie about all day doing nothing. Needless to say, all camps would be sex-segregated and alcohol-free.

States have three choices when it comes to dealing with the mentally ill: institutionalize them (the old solution), ship them off to some other state (not a solution at all), or let them go wild (as we do today). My idea definitely has problems, but if there’s a solution out there that that better deals with the situation, I want to see it.


27 posted on 08/16/2007 10:18:42 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Its’ really heartbreaking about these homeless people.

I can't agree with that. 90% of the "homeless" are that way through their own actions and many prefer homelessness.

28 posted on 08/16/2007 10:20:48 AM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: Jack Wilson
hang out...at a library where you get nice comfortable chairs, a clean bathroom, plenty of reading material, maybe cd’s to listen to and even free coffee and access to free porn thanks to the librarian lobby!
29 posted on 08/16/2007 10:23:05 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: skinnycook; Astronaut

And his ignorance about the value of libraries, too.


30 posted on 08/16/2007 10:23:55 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: skinnycook
As an individual who has worked with the homeless for the past ten years, I must say your statement proves your ignorance.

It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. Enlighten us.

31 posted on 08/16/2007 10:25:04 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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To: Old Professer

I’m assuming Hillarycare will solve this problem by putting social workers in libraries or some other form of socialized medicine. sarc/off


32 posted on 08/16/2007 10:25:25 AM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: Astronaut

Libraries, thanks to the so-called civil rights lawyers, have become homeless shelters and pornography dens. It’s no place for children. Now imagine what hospitals will look like when medicine is socialized.


33 posted on 08/16/2007 10:25:48 AM PDT by Spok
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To: 4yearlurker; Lorianne
I remember a news story from years ago about a bum that got kicked out of a public library in NYC. He sued and won!

I think it was NJ, and he won a bundle, too.

Absurd.

34 posted on 08/16/2007 10:26:47 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Astronaut
That new, expensive hideously ugly library in downtown Seattle also reeks of death. I call it “Auschwitz for Books,” as not only is there’s nothing about it conducive to reading, it actually makes books seem rotten. Readers just want to get the hell out ASAP, as the shape of the building, the colors used, the entire aesthetic of the place is terminally ugly. All that empty airspace, so few books. The architects must have been functional illiterates with no respect for books.

I read that they purposely used awful colors in order to make people want to leave. They did this to keep street people away, they say, but those insensitive louts don’t notice. It’s more intelligent visitors to the building who race for the exits.

Seattle’s newer public buildings seem to have been designed by the same design team. The Seattle Art Museum is another paean to empty space, with that huge grand airy stairway leading from the lobby to......ta dum....the coffee shop, the best space in the building.(Endowed perhaps by Howard Whazhisname of Starbucks?) Nice coffee, but then the alleged collections are jammed into dark, low-ceilinged, unappealing spaces. Perhaps the recent remodel effort helped, but I'll wager they created more empty space. At least they don't allow bums in the door.

The old library in San Francisco had hundreds of thousands of books, some of them treasures published early in the 20th century, with several floors of dimly lit stacks with floors made of glass bricks to allow the little bit of light available to filter into every corner. If you could get past the bums sitting like smelly sacks of wet laundry on the steps and in the lobby, the stacks were a wonderland for those who loved knowlege for its own sake. I spent many happy hours lost in those stacks. Eventually, though, the street people won and I joined Mechanics Library, a great little library that kept the bums out. Membership was something like $25 per year. Maybe it's time to give up the notion of "free" public libraries and charge members fees, put up gates, employ ticket takers, and allow those of us who love books to enjoy them in peace. Books online suck, imo. Not even close to the experience of curling up with a good book.

35 posted on 08/16/2007 10:30:53 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Spok
Libraries, thanks to the so-called civil rights lawyers, have become homeless shelters and pornography dens. It’s no place for children. Now imagine what hospitals will look like when medicine is socialized.

Terrific observation. I'll use it well and often with my liberal friends.

36 posted on 08/16/2007 10:32:25 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: PAR35

The liberals did indeed get this trend going, but i don’t see anybody from either side clamoring for money to re-establish decent custodial care for the mentally ill. It’s expensive and in most states probably would involve raising taxes (or cutting something else). In fact, mental health is one of the first things cut when hard times roll around.


37 posted on 08/16/2007 10:36:39 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Alouette

He probably wasn’t born then and thinks he’s the first person to ever came up with this solution.

However, this mentally-ill issue is now just part of social medicine promotion.


38 posted on 08/16/2007 10:36:55 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Veto!

The Suzzalo Library at the UW is a wonderful library.


39 posted on 08/16/2007 10:43:13 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: skinnycook

Oh go cry me a river! Boo hoo, the homeless! Tell them to get a frickin job. If the are mentally ill, they belong in a hospital, not roaming the streets. There are lots that are homeless because they made bad decisions, but its their responsibility, not mine. No one is entitled to a free ride.


40 posted on 08/16/2007 10:44:59 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: RepoGirl
This line is my favorite:
Until we provide better services and real homes for them

And notice the qualifiers for both... we provide services, but they must now be better. We might give them homes (as has been tried numerous times in the past with uniformly poor results), but they must be "real" homes. Anything less than a cable modem, central air, DVDRs, 1200 square feet, and a 32" flat panel is unacceptable.

41 posted on 08/16/2007 10:49:12 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Lorianne
Why are libraries homeless shelters?

Because the homeless lack funds and cannot excercise their right to porn unless it is free.

42 posted on 08/16/2007 10:52:27 AM PDT by 70times7 (Sense... some don't make any, some don't have any - or so the former would appear to the latter.)
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To: 70times7

LOL - I posted before actually reading the article - I was right!


43 posted on 08/16/2007 10:53:43 AM PDT by 70times7 (Sense... some don't make any, some don't have any - or so the former would appear to the latter.)
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To: Lorianne

Those who want to solve the homeless problem need to address the fact that addictive drugs have been made available to teenagers and preteens. All the homeless people I have seen in my area look like old drug addicts. There are way to many people making their fortunes off of ruining the lives of teenagers.


44 posted on 08/16/2007 10:55:16 AM PDT by perseid 67
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To: Astronaut

Only use hard chairs and they will go elsewhere.


45 posted on 08/16/2007 10:58:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
usually are suffering from a mental illness or drug or alcohol addiction, or both

some of the homeless have substance abuse problems

the mentally ill whom we have thrown onto the streets

they're sick

Some of them, though, are struggling with serious mental illness and addictions

So, do you think any of the homeless might have an illness or addiction problem?

46 posted on 08/16/2007 11:09:26 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Lorianne
bring this as well as your library card.
47 posted on 08/16/2007 11:22:04 AM PDT by kdr3
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To: Jack Wilson

Indeed ... but here in Florida add airconditioning to the list of bennies the library shelter provides. Most of the time the urban outdoorsmen (and women) are well-behaved but I do see a few catching z’s from time to time. An interesting problem is on the horizon as municipalities come to grips with the property tax relief actions underway down here. One common action is for library hours to be cut. My first reaction was “where will the homeless go?”


48 posted on 08/16/2007 12:14:47 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: Veto!
Amen to all that. I loved those otherworldly green glass floors in the stacks, and the surprises and delights they supported .... but by about 1992 the sights and the smells -- even in the children's reading room, fergawdsakes! -- were too much.

The very last straw was the desecration of the card catalog, when the civic custodians of the cumulative knowledge of centuries decided to empty out all those great old oak cabinets and use their contents as wallpaper for the service corridors. At that point it was clear that the barbarians had won, at least at Civic Center.

Long may Bessie's ghost watch over the denizens of 57 Post Street!

49 posted on 08/16/2007 1:47:46 PM PDT by Tenniel2 (The heroes of Flight 93 diverted the wrong plane.)
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To: Lorianne

They are allowing homeless into Libraries to sleep so they can pass all the viruses and staff infections on to adults and children from their urine and sweat they leave in the carpet.


50 posted on 08/16/2007 1:50:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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