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Online Video: Noted Endocrinologist Dispels the Myth of Health Benefits of the Pill - Part 2
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | August 9, 2007 | Elizabeth O'Brien

Posted on 08/11/2007 8:56:07 PM PDT by monomaniac

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To: freespirited; cpdiii

As cpdiii (how do you pronnouce that?) pointed out that the use of cherry-picking data characterizes this piece, and others: trying to appear as scientists but in realty are selling a point of view, a belief.


21 posted on 08/11/2007 10:24:49 PM PDT by Rudder
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You don’t read well, do you. I said analysis of text, not data. The text is a news report. You pegged your analsysis on its headline. Anyone who knows anything about news writing knows that headlines exaggerate, distort, mislead.

And what kind of an argument is “NO DATA”—do you expect technical medical journal data in a popular speech? You truly do not understand the first rule of analyzing TEXTS—consider the genre, the type of text. This one is a popular journalistic piece. You fault it for not being a medical journal piece. So what! Your criticism is irrelevant.

And then you come back in the next post with an assessment of her career, dismissing her, not on the basis of science but of her “proselytizing.”

Now, for someone who has his/her knickers in a knot over absent data, it seems to me you offered nothing but an ad hominem dismissal.

She may be wrong all the way up and down Lake Ontario, but you haven’t even looked at the studies referred to in the full article at LifeSite (54 of them on breast cancer and the pill)—note, referred to, not cited, because the LifeSite article is not a medical journal. It mentions that she based her claim on 54 studies. It does not “cite” the studies in the way scientists do but cites them the way journalists do-generally, not specifically.

But you already know that she’s wrong. Not because you have analyzed those 54 studies that she analyzed and shown that her analysis is bunk, which it may of course be.

No, you know her analysis of those 54 studies has to be wrong because she has made a lot of speeches stating that hormonal contraception is bad for women. Tell me what’s wrong with the Mayo study I linked to? It was not written by proselytizers against contraception but it does conclude soberly that there’s an increased risk of breast cancer.

No, you prefer to operate out of ad hominem prejudice, which is what you have done from first to last on this thread.

You see, I’m not a trained reader of medical journals in endocrinology but I do know that the doctor who dismissed as hogwash the questions I raised about hormone replacement therapy for my wife, based on my amateur reading of popular summaries of techincal clinical evidence in “proselytizing” pro-life, natural-family-planning journals, was dead wrong when my wife suddenly found herself fighting highly agressive estrogen-linked (whatever the technical term for it is) breast cancer. A few months later the medical establishment finally admitted that, no, even the supposedly “safe” newer HRT methods weren’t so safe after all—exactly the question I was raising based on “proselytizing” prolife, NFP sources. Had she not discovered the lump accidentally when she did, she would be dead now.

So, you see, when the big-wig medical professionals get snooty about those who have a bit of passionate skepticism about all the monkeying around with hormones, I think of the doctor who oh-so-professionally said, “oh, they don’t know what they’re talking about, after all, they’re already committed anti-contraceptionists.”

Is it just possible that they take that position because of some evidence, because of studies, because of data?


22 posted on 08/11/2007 10:27:40 PM PDT by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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I’m glad your wife is ok.


23 posted on 08/11/2007 10:31:38 PM PDT by Rudder
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