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Russia jets resume Cold War runs
BBC News ^ | 08/09/07 | BBC

Posted on 08/09/2007 8:30:14 AM PDT by Sax

Russian bombers have flown to the US island of Guam in the Pacific as part of an exercise this week reminiscent of the Cold War. Two Tu-95 jets flew to Guam, which is home to a big US military base, Maj Gen Pavel Androsov said.

They "exchanged smiles" with US pilots who scrambled to track them, he added.

The sorties, believed to be the first since the Cold War ended, come as Russia stresses a more assertive foreign policy, observers say.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; bear; coldwar2; guam; ivan; russia; russianmilitary; sorties; sovietunion; tu95; ussr
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Tu-95 Bears are turbo props, not jets. Basically, cruise missile launching platforms. The Brits just intercepted a few for the first time in many years about a week or two ago. Russia's looking to get a little of their Cold War swagger back.

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1 posted on 08/09/2007 8:30:16 AM PDT by Sax
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Russian military demanding that they be allowed to train for “whatever” or what is their purpose.

Means nothing.


2 posted on 08/09/2007 8:32:28 AM PDT by WBL 1952
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Here’s the article of British fighters picking up a few wandering Bears:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/19/wrussia419.xml


3 posted on 08/09/2007 8:33:25 AM PDT by Sax
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They are not really used for launching cruise missiles - they are used as recon platforms to provide midcourse info to the cruise missiles.
They have a radar cross section like a skyscraper. There was some joke about this “We have sighted the enemy - dos vadanya, Motherland!”


4 posted on 08/09/2007 8:37:40 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Sax

Maybe now the U.S. will reopen its Alert Sites so for the next 9/11 we will have more fighter planes to put in the air, armed planes, and ones that are ready to go at a moment’s notice.


5 posted on 08/09/2007 8:42:01 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Sax

I miss the Atlantic Morning Bear in the 70s and 80s that would fly down the east coast to Havanna every morning. You could set your watch by the sonic booms from US chase planes.


6 posted on 08/09/2007 8:44:45 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: WBL 1952

Means Putin is scared to death that what limited influence his thugs still have over the actions of sovereign nations is going away.

Colonel, USAFR


7 posted on 08/09/2007 8:45:57 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Thrownatbirth

Time for some of our pilots to “communicate” with these Russkies, like they did in “Top Gun.”


8 posted on 08/09/2007 8:46:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Thrownatbirth

I read about some of the guys on the DEW Line talking about that one.


9 posted on 08/09/2007 8:47:21 AM PDT by Sax
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10 posted on 08/09/2007 8:47:26 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: Little Ray
They are not really used for launching cruise missiles - they are used as recon platforms to provide midcourse info to the cruise missiles.

No offence, but I think I'll rely on Maj Gen Pavel Androsov, who identified these aircraft as Tu-95MS, which is a cruise missile carrier.

11 posted on 08/09/2007 8:52:11 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (The Simpsons already did it!)
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Is has to be weird for the US crews.... They must feel like they are at a vintage aircraft show when they see these things coming. You'd expect to see some old dude, in an old leather bomber jacket sitting at the controls. :)

Crack Russian pilots in their scary Tupolev Bear.


12 posted on 08/09/2007 9:00:12 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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Obsolete bluster. The turboprop Tu-95MS bomber is so unbelievably noisy that the crews are all stone deaf in no time. It is so loud, that submerged submarines recognize its sound signature on sonar.


13 posted on 08/09/2007 9:01:03 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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That Bear was useful to the Sixth Fleet for years - all the EWs could align their shipboard DF antennas daily to that one big pulsing threat emitter.


14 posted on 08/09/2007 9:20:06 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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Slow moving target practice for the F-22, nothing more nothing less.


15 posted on 08/09/2007 9:57:00 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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We should send up some old F4c’s up to meet them when they fly by.


16 posted on 08/09/2007 10:31:08 AM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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We should send up some old F4c’s up to meet them when they fly by.

There might be a few drone F-4s left, but they are starting to use early model F-16s for targets.

17 posted on 08/09/2007 10:53:59 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: FormerACLUmember
The turboprop Tu-95MS bomber is so unbelievably noisy that the crews are all stone deaf in no time. It is so loud, that submerged submarines recognize its sound signature on sonar.

Sort of surprised they haven't re-engined them with high bypass turbofans. Looks like it would work structurally.

18 posted on 08/09/2007 10:55:38 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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It looks like a rip-off of the B-29.


19 posted on 08/09/2007 11:03:31 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (eHarmony reject)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

same mission, cheaper + more primitive plane.


20 posted on 08/09/2007 11:10:30 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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