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A War the Pentagon Can’t Win
NY Times ^ | July 24, 2007 | DANIEL BENJAMIN and STEVEN SIMON

Posted on 07/24/2007 8:25:39 PM PDT by neverdem

AS the National Intelligence Estimate issued last week confirms, a terrorist haven has emerged in Pakistan’s tribal belt. And as recent revelations about an aborted 2005 operation in the region demonstrate, our Defense Department is chronically unable to conduct the sort of missions that would disrupt terrorist activity there and in similarly ungoverned places.

These are perhaps the most important kind of counterterrorism missions. Because the Pentagon has shown that it cannot carry them out, the Central Intelligence Agency should be given the chance to perform them.

The story of the scrubbed 2005 operation illustrates why the Pentagon is incapable of doing what needs to be done. The preparations for the mission to capture or kill Al Qaeda’s No. 2 leader, Ayman al-Zawahri, appear to have unfolded like others before it. Intelligence was received about a high-level Qaeda meeting. A small snatch or kill operation was to be carried out by Special Operations. But military brass added large numbers of troops to conduct additional intelligence, force protection, communications and extraction work.

At that point, as one senior intelligence official told this newspaper, “The whole thing turned into the invasion of Pakistan,” and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld pulled the plug.

To those of us who worked in counterterrorism in the 1990s, this sequence of events feels like the movie “Groundhog Day.” Similar decision-making led to the failure to mount critical operations on at least three occasions during the Clinton administration. The most notable was the effort to get the Pentagon to conduct a ground operation against the Qaeda leadership in Afghanistan beginning in late 1998.

The Clinton White House repeatedly requested options involving ground forces that could hunt and destroy terrorists in Afghanistan. Repeatedly, senior military officials declared such a mission “would be Desert One,” referring to the disastrous 1980...

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; cia; defensedepartment; geopolitics; globaljihad; pakistan

1 posted on 07/24/2007 8:25:42 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The CIA! LOL! Yeah. Send Secret Agent Plame to square those terrorists away. Funny stuff.


2 posted on 07/24/2007 8:30:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You know you are a great American when a Kennedy calls you a traitor.)
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To: neverdem

This story is bullshit. Could you image the look on Rummy’s face if some planner came into his office and wanted to capture Bin Laden or Zawahari?

This story is trying to claim that these are the same issue.


3 posted on 07/24/2007 8:34:55 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: neverdem
This is the most important fact in the article...

Daniel Benjamin, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Steven Simon, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, were members of the National Security Council staff from 1994 to 1999.

4 posted on 07/24/2007 8:35:19 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Sending the Clinton hacks in the CIA to do this job might be a good idea. At least we will be rid of them.


5 posted on 07/24/2007 8:36:25 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: neverdem

save


6 posted on 07/24/2007 8:37:21 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Brilliant

I think you’re right. I hadn’t thought of it that way. :o)


7 posted on 07/24/2007 8:38:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You know you are a great American when a Kennedy calls you a traitor.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
well that's all I needed to know that the CIA is corrupted.

First of all the "invasion" scenario is bullsh#t.

The NYT doesn't know the target, the support needed, the lay of the land, the amount of ..... forget it.

The CIA is now the defacto liberal/democrat junta in the making. Bush failed to clear out the deadwood and now lives with the multiple landmines that the Clintons laid in the government.

State and CIA have done everything they could to screw Bush. We are witnessing a fight for control of the governmental apparatus dealing with foreign governments and the threats they pose. The military has been strangled by the ROE asswipes on one side, the propaganda machine on another and the democrats gumming up the legislative branches of government.

8 posted on 07/24/2007 8:38:39 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Dick Vomer

http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2007/07/24/uncovering-the-rogue-cia/


9 posted on 07/24/2007 8:47:33 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: Dick Vomer

No intelligence agency working for the country would ever knowingly submit corrupt information for mere political purposes when global terrorism is the issue. If the intelligence reports conflicts with previously held assumptions, it is the assumptions that are wrong or corrupted.


10 posted on 07/24/2007 9:14:17 PM PDT by APJStudio
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To: neverdem

Maybe our top political and military leadership should stop playing “counterterrorism” (AKA known as a child’s game called “cops and robbers”) and start leading our courageous and willing soldiers to fight and finish a war, instead.


11 posted on 07/24/2007 9:38:30 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been, will write Duncan Hunter in)
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To: APJStudio
No intelligence agency working for the country would ever knowingly submit corrupt information for mere political purposes when global terrorism is the issue.

You've got to be joking:

The Times reported that Rep. Peter Hoekstra, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, had sent a private letter to President Bush about a range of intelligence issues. Predictably, The Times focused on a vague reference in the letter to secret programs that Hoekstra had wanted Congress to be briefed on. The Times thought this was proof that the administration was running illegal programs, a favorite theme of the liberal media in their zeal to discredit Bush. But the Hoekstra letter was quite specific about what is going on in the CIA. The Times article, however, did not highlight that part of the letter in which Hoekstra referred to events in the Valerie Plame affair as the result of "a strong and well-positioned group" within the CIA that "intentionally undermined the Administration and its policies." Readers of the on-line Times were able to read the whole letter, which was posted on the paper's website.

The Hoekstra letter also refers to Stephen Kappes returning to the CIA as Deputy Director when it is believed that he "may have been part" of the group that was determined to sabotage the Bush Administration.

The CIA Is Still After Bush

The Bush administration suffered major embarrassment when it was disclosed that the United States was holding top al-Qaida suspects in "secret prisons" in eastern Europe and North Africa.

A Swedish journalist who prepared one of the first stories on the CIA flights that transported al-Qaida captives told Josh Gerstein of The New York Sun the CIA did a poor job of covering its tracks. "I would say they didn't give a damn," Fredrik Laurin told Mr. Gerstein. "If I was an American taxpayer, I'd be upset."

For a show broadcast in May of last year, Mr. Laurin traced the tail number of a Gulfstream jet used to transport captives to a clearly phony company in Massachusetts. "You weren't able to trace the name to any living individual," Mr. Laurin said. "They were all living in post office boxes in Virginia. "If that's all the imagination they can drum up at Langley, I'd fire the bunch," Mr. Laurin added.

But if the CIA hasn't been very good at ferreting out the secrets of our enemies, or keeping our own, it has shown a talent for playing politics.

"The CIA's war against the Bush administration is one of the great untold stories of the past three years," wrote lawyer and Web logger John Hinderaker in The Weekly Standard.

The CIA has used its budget to fund criticism of the Bush administration by former Democratic officeholders, and permitted a serving analyst, Michael Scheuer, to publish and promote a book bashing the president.

The principal CIA weapon has been the leak. Reporters for ABC, The New York Times and The Washington Post didn't have to do even the minimal legwork Mr. Laurin did to out the CIA's clandestine "rendition" program. It was handed to them by "current and former intelligence officials."

"So the CIA established policies that it knew would be controversial and would damage American interests if revealed, and then leaked the existence of those policies to The Washington Post for the purpose of damaging the Bush administration," Mr. Hinderaker wrote.

Ciao, CIA

See also:

Exclusive Book Excerpt: 'Sabotage' Part 1 -- The CIA goes to war with the Pentagon

CIA dissenters aided secret prisons report

The Secret War Against President Bush

The CIA Follies

12 posted on 07/25/2007 6:37:06 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: APJStudio

you’re kidding?


13 posted on 07/25/2007 11:35:10 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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