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Swedish tax collectors organized by apes
www.thelocal.se ^ | 07/23/2007 | TT/The Local

Posted on 07/23/2007 11:40:39 AM PDT by WesternCulture

A reorganization of workers at the Swedish Tax Authority is partly shaped on studies of apes, according to a leaked internal report. Employees are not flattered by the comparison.

The tax authority is currently undergoing its largest reorganization for many years. One of the foundations of the restructuring plan is a report which says that studies of apes show that people work best in groups of 150.

The reorganization was announced earlier in the summer. Work is being moved from small towns to larger towns and cities. Around 1,350 people are affected by the move. Economies of scale are a large part of the reason for the reorganization, but the authority has placed an upper limit of 150 employees per office, according to a report seen by news agency TT. The figure is justified using biological studies.

"The number 150 returns again and again when discussing the size of a group which has some kind of social commonality. Evolutionary biologists have seen that primates live in social groups of varying sizes," the report says. A comparison of the size of human brains to those of various other apes allows scientists to calculate the best group size for humans to work in.

"Based on this formula we have concluded that the optimum (or largest possible) group of people is 147.8."

The military, the Hutterite religious group and hunter-gatherer societies are also examples in which groups have tended to comprise around 150 people.

Employees who have spoken to news agency TT said they "seriously questioned" whether it was serious to compare them to apes. They also said it gave rise to scepticism over the basis of other elements of the reorganization, under which 1,000 people are moving workplace.

A list will be published in late August of the offices earmarked for closure. No spokespeople for the tax authority were available for immediate comment on Monday.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: ape; apes; govwatch; management; monkey; scandinavia; science; sociology; sweden; tax; taxation; taxes

1 posted on 07/23/2007 11:40:42 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
Tax collectors are apes; why shouldn't they be treated like the latter?


2 posted on 07/23/2007 11:43:49 AM PDT by indcons (I support Mitt's 5th position on abortion, 8th position on gun rights, and 7th position on amnesty.)
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To: WesternCulture

Get your hands off me, you damned dirty ape!


3 posted on 07/23/2007 11:45:01 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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To: WesternCulture

GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY MONEY YOU FILTHY APE!!!!!!


4 posted on 07/23/2007 11:45:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: ClearCase_guy

!!!....


5 posted on 07/23/2007 11:46:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: WesternCulture
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"Sounds about right to me."
6 posted on 07/23/2007 12:00:24 PM PDT by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: WesternCulture
The LEAST effective organization I’ve ever worked for was one of appr 150 employees.

It suffered from all of the typical weaknesses of smaller companies, like the lack of true professionalism and access to proper resources and it was also marked by having very little of the ‘family atmospehere’, flexibility and informality typical for small, yet successful businesses.

The two greatest work experiences of my life so far has been working for large corporations like Volvo (both Volvo Cars presently owned by Ford, as well as Volvo Truck Corp., part of The Volvo Group) and a certain small manufacturing company here in Sweden that, despite the fact I’m no longer aboard the ship, seems to have very much of a bright future.

7 posted on 07/23/2007 12:12:49 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
"Based on this formula we have concluded that the optimum (or largest possible) group of people is 147.8."

How would like to be told that you were selected to be the 0.8 person?

8 posted on 07/23/2007 12:15:22 PM PDT by Fudd
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To: indcons
No spokespeople for the tax authority were available for immediate comment on Monday.

They were all out on banana break.......

9 posted on 07/23/2007 12:17:00 PM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: WesternCulture

Since banana trees produce between 60-400 bananas per season and each ape needs about 12 trees to survive it stands to reason that the range of the tribe would extend only to the range of the trees which would consist of maybe five-ten square miles.


10 posted on 07/23/2007 12:31:21 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Fudd; WesternCulture
How would like to be told that you were selected to be the 0.8 person?

“You there, Sven, #148. Nothing personal, but we’re going to cut a leg off.”

11 posted on 07/23/2007 12:34:51 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Fudd

“How would like to be told that you were selected to be the 0.8 person?”

If it meant I worked 20% less, I would like it just fine!


12 posted on 07/23/2007 12:36:00 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: WesternCulture
147.8 people per office?


13 posted on 07/23/2007 12:39:07 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: WesternCulture

I bet they’ll go ape $hiite over this.


14 posted on 07/23/2007 12:40:40 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He will build the fence!!)
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To: WesternCulture

This thread has a lot of potential. LOL


15 posted on 07/23/2007 1:01:01 PM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: WesternCulture
Someone has a case of the Mondays!


16 posted on 07/23/2007 1:07:19 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: WesternCulture

"Income Tax Collecting... So easy, a Caveman can do it!"

-PJ

17 posted on 07/23/2007 1:08:03 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: WesternCulture

“apes show that people work best in groups of 150”....HMMM and how did they do that? Powerpoint presentation perhaps?


18 posted on 07/23/2007 1:11:13 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: WesternCulture

Gee, the US tax system has much in common with the Swedes.

Training Apes
A number of years ago, animal psychologists performed an experiment that goes a long way toward understanding some of the more perverse and illogical aspects of human behavior. And while I’m NOT putting humans down there with the monkeys, recent political events certainly make it increasingly difficult to maintain that separation.
Here’s what they did:
They began with a cage containing 5 apes. In the cage, they dangled a banana on a string near the roof and placed a set of stairs beneath it. One of the psychologists stationed himself above the cage with a high-pressure water hose. When the first ape attempted to climb the stairs toward the banana, the man on the hose opened up and thoroughly sprayed ALL the apes with ice cold water. The moment another of the apes attempted to touch the stairs, they ALL got another ice water shower. When yet another ape attempted the climb, another freezing deluge ensued.
At some point in the process, when one of the apes touched the stairs, the other apes frantically PULLED HIM BACK - even though NO water was sprayed on them.
They then removed one of the original apes and replaced it with a new one not involved in the first part of the exercise. The new ape spied the banana and headed for the stairs. He was IMMEDIATELY attacked by the other 4. After a few more attempts - and attacks - the new ape soon understood that any further attempts would result in another assault.
They then removed ANOTHER of the original apes, again replacing it with a new one. The newcomer went to the stairs and was promptly attacked by the other 4, INCLUDING the first replacement ape who had NEVER received the cold water shower.
They then removed the third of the original apes and inserted a new one. The new ape made it to the stairs and, as with the others, was promptly attacked. Two of the 4 apes that assaulted this new member had no idea WHY climbing the stairs was a forbidden activity or WHY they were participating in the assaults on the transgressors.
The experimenters then replaced the 4th and 5th apes leaving none of the original apes. No apes subjected to the cold showers remained in the cage.
Nevertheless, NO APES AGAIN EVER APPROACHED THE STAIRS.

If you don’t get the point of this story, go sit in the back of a courtroom during one of the thousands of “victimless crime” trials each year and watch the jurors refuse to touch the stairs.


19 posted on 07/23/2007 1:26:02 PM PDT by Dick Bachert ("The urge to save humanity is often a false front for the urge to rule." Mencken)
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To: indcons
“Tax collectors are apes; why shouldn’t they be treated like the latter?”

Thats an insult to apes. Tax collectors are a degenerative species of toenail fungus.

20 posted on 07/23/2007 1:35:48 PM PDT by monday
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To: WesternCulture
studies of apes show that people work best in groups of 150

Idiocy on a grand scale.

The Swedish taxpayers are being ripped off by the clowns that agreed to implement a job efficiency plan based on a study of animals.

21 posted on 07/23/2007 1:40:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: WesternCulture; rmlew; Charles Henrickson

22 posted on 07/23/2007 1:41:34 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: WesternCulture

The more I think about it — this has GOT to be a parting shot from The Weekly World News!


23 posted on 07/23/2007 1:41:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Dick Bachert
“And while I’m NOT putting humans down there with the monkeys,...”

Sadly, most people belong down there with apes. Yours is a good illustration of the power “conventional wisdom” has over people and their inability to think logically if doing so produces results that contradict “conventional wisdom”.

It’s a fact that most people don’t think for themselves.

24 posted on 07/23/2007 1:48:21 PM PDT by monday
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To: Dick Bachert

Indeed a multi-storey story.

However, despite all of the levels of the whole thing, I guess it all boils down to this:

Apes need bananas, the government crave for your money. In case nothing is done in order to prevent it, the survival of humanity at large is threatened.

Today, Sweden is cutting taxes and the US, once known as a market economy characterized by entrepreneurship, low taxes and unparalleled levels of economic freedom is burdened by way higher corporate taxes than many European nations (including Sweden).

Even though many European countries have higher taxes in general, it is notable that many European businesses enjoy lower CORPORATE taxes.

Hungary .....18%
Ireland .....24%
Switzerland ..... 24.9%
Norway ..... 28%
Sweden .....28%
UK ..... 30%
South Korea ..... 30.8%
Australia ..... 34%
Netherlands ..... 35%
Italy ..... 37%
France ..... 37.8%
USA ..... 39.4%
Canada ..... 44%
Germany ..... 52%


25 posted on 07/23/2007 2:16:41 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: Dick Bachert

fascinating study! I try to be the one who questions, and breaks the chain. For example I see in initiations.. like a new professional in the organization is expected to ‘earn’ their place. They give them absurdly long hours, tough work and so on. A lot is because they were initiated like that, and they want to make sure newcomers have it just as tough as they did + a little extra. I try to break the chain in things like that, I don’t pass it on.


26 posted on 07/23/2007 2:24:53 PM PDT by ran20
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To: Paleo Conservative

27 posted on 07/23/2007 3:02:50 PM PDT by lowbridge (A Gun A Day Keeps The Government Away)
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