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Muslims draft complaint against Swift meatpacking plant
AP/Omaha World Herald ^ | 7/23/2007

Posted on 07/23/2007 10:24:49 AM PDT by Uncledave

Published Monday | July 23, 2007 Muslims draft complaint against Swift meatpacking plant THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Tension came to a head at a Grand Island meatpacking plant in June, when Jama Mohamed said his desire for 10 minutes to pray at sunset was met with shouting.

After he left the production line and began praying, Mohamed said, supervisors took his prayer mat, pulled him up by his collar and sent him crying to a lead supervisor, who fired him.

"I told him, 'Look, I know I am in America and I know in America there is a freedom of religion for everybody to practice their religion. . . . And as long as you fulfill that — as long as you let me pray — I will always work for you,'" Mohamed, 28, said last week through an interpreter.

"And he said, 'No, that's not acceptable — your prayers are not acceptable here. You're here to work, not pray.'"

The Council on American-Islamic Relations has drafted a complaint to federal officials that is awaiting the signatures of dozens of Muslim Somali workers who say they were fired or harassed by supervisors at a Grand Island meatpacking plant for trying to pray at sunset.

The complaint, to be filed with federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission officials, compiles testimony from at least 44 workers who say they quit or were either fired or verbally and physically harassed over the prayers.

The complaint alleges that breaktime rules at the Swift & Co. plant violate civil rights laws by not allowing workers to leave production lines to pray at sundown.

The sunset prayer, known as the maghrib, is the fourth of five daily prayers required of all Muslims.

A Minneapolis attorney for the Greeley, Colo.-based Swift said unscheduled breaks can force unplanned shutdowns of lines.

"That is a significant number of employees, and there is not much of a way to accommodate that consistent with keeping the production online," Donald Selzer said.

The complaint reprises concerns that boiled over in May, when 120 Somali workers abruptly quit when they were not allowed to pray at sundown. About 70 of them returned to the plant a week later, but union officials worried the issue would resurface as sundown inched later each day through the spring.

Later sunsets run past evening breaks meant to keep workers from long stretches on production lines.

"For three days it was all good and we were praying — there was no hassle, no interference, nothing at all," Ali Schire said through an interpreter. Schire, 30, said he was among the 70 who quit and later returned.

"All of a sudden after three days . . . they were suspending people, they were firing people," Schire said. "Some of the people even had to give up praying at all for fear of being fired."

Mohamed Rage, chairman of the Omaha Somali-American Community Organization, said: "They are treating (the Somalis) like criminals now — anyone who prays is a criminal."

Schire said a supervisor took his gloves, uniform and other working equipment as he prayed and threw it in the trash the day he was fired.

Rage said at least two dozen workers have been fired since May by Swift for praying. Swift disputes that number.

Selzer said three Somali workers were fired for walking off the line without permission, not for praying.

"These people are absolutely entitled to pray, and they should not be interfered with for doing so," Selzer said. "The only situations that I've been made aware of are people that walk off the job without permission, and that's a different kind of an issue."

Dan Hoppes, president of Local 22 of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, said he sees regular lists of those fired from the plant. Nothing in those lists raised his suspicions, he said, but he said the plant — which employs about 3,000 people in all and about 150 Somalis — generally has high turnover.

Hoppes said prayer breaks are not part of the contract, but he said he plans to revisit the issue with plant officials when the contract is renegotiated in 2010.

Rima Kapitan, a Chicago-based staff attorney with the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said Swift has been "unwilling to work with us to create a solution where the workers can pray."

Kapitan said Swift rejected her group's suggestion to allow the Somalis who work evenings to leave in small shifts to avoid disrupting lines. The prayer must be done within a 45-minute window surrounding sunset, according to Muslim prayer rules.

Selzer and Hoppes said the company suggested phasing evening workers to shifts earlier in the day that don't interrupt prayer times.

"We're perfectly happy to try to pursue that angle so that we don't have this conflict," Selzer said, but noted many people prefer the second shift.

Somali workers also complain that other workers are granted bathroom or smoking breaks and say prayer time should be granted in the same way.

Mohamed said it is important for Muslims to pray within scheduled times and not to postpone prayers or say them early.

"I would never forgive myself and God would not forgive me if I do not pray on time because I want to earn some money," he said.


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1 posted on 07/23/2007 10:24:51 AM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave

muslims complaining? Imagine that...


2 posted on 07/23/2007 10:26:52 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Uncledave

I don’t trust these workers with our food!!


3 posted on 07/23/2007 10:27:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Uncledave

Hey Mohamed........get a job that doesn’t interfere with your religion.....that’s what WE do in the land of opportunity!!!


4 posted on 07/23/2007 10:27:37 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (The only thing I love more than my FreeperFriends is my God, Family and Country !!!!)
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To: Uncledave

Hey my religion .... which I just invented this morning ... requires me to worship by drinking beer and watching TV during working hours.


5 posted on 07/23/2007 10:27:54 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72-73 ... USS Midway CVA-41 VA-93 Blue Blazers)
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To: Uncledave
120 Somali workers
Diversity Visa Recipients?
6 posted on 07/23/2007 10:27:59 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: stephenjohnbanker

But yet they’re OK working with non-Halal meat all day.


7 posted on 07/23/2007 10:28:14 AM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave

Dear Swift Company,

Transfer Mohamed to the pork processing department ASAP.


8 posted on 07/23/2007 10:30:06 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (The only thing I love more than my FreeperFriends is my God, Family and Country !!!!)
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To: Uncledave

“Mohammed Rage”? Too perfect!

Gee, workers walking off the production line without permission is not acceptable? Who knew?

I may have to place Swift and their fine processed pork products higher on my shopping list.


9 posted on 07/23/2007 10:31:39 AM PDT by csn vinnie
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To: Uncledave
That Swift plant packs pork which Muslims cannot handle (according to their religion). Does the plant have to make an exception for Muslim workers to place them exclusively on beef production lines? If they are currently working on pork production lines and violating the precepts of their religion, then what difference does it make if they miss a prayer session?
10 posted on 07/23/2007 10:32:32 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: Uncledave

When are they going to say that the plant should not be allowed to process pork products?


11 posted on 07/23/2007 10:32:44 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Uncledave

Don’t hire problem-children


12 posted on 07/23/2007 10:33:53 AM PDT by Lexington Green (There ain't no news in the news no more.)
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To: Uncledave
The complaint alleges that breaktime rules at the Swift & Co. plant violate civil rights laws by not allowing workers to leave production lines to pray at sundown.

I don't think there is anything in the civil rights laws that require a company to provide time for praying. If they must pray at sundown, they need to get a job that ends before sundown. Once again, this is another attempt to use our laws to establish Sharia law in the US. My feeling is that, if they don't like the job and it doesn't fit their religious beliefs, they should find another job...perhaps in Somalia or Saudi Arabia.

I hope the company--and the union--fight this one.

13 posted on 07/23/2007 10:34:08 AM PDT by econjack
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To: Uncledave

Yeah : )


14 posted on 07/23/2007 10:34:34 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Uncledave
They will do what Dell did in Nashville(Lebanon), surrender and then fire the Americans so that they can hire more Somalis.
15 posted on 07/23/2007 10:34:49 AM PDT by sticker
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To: Uncledave

Do they process pork at the plant?
PC is going to be the ruination of us all. We actually have ‘diversity’ training where I work..and the praying scenario came up. What rubbish. If I find it offensive to have to put up with someone’s else ‘religous’ preference, aren’t my rights impinged, too?


16 posted on 07/23/2007 10:34:52 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Lexington Green

Exactly, on would have to be a fool to bring them on board in the first place.


17 posted on 07/23/2007 10:36:27 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Uncledave

How many religious workers have successfully challenged corporate human resources departments that require employees to undergo “diversity training” that includes a requirement to accept homosexuality as “moral” and “normal”?


18 posted on 07/23/2007 10:38:51 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: Uncledave

In my religion, it is sin to not be paid twice that of non-believer scum. I tell this to my scum non-believer boss and he fire me! Evil scum non-beleiver boss!


19 posted on 07/23/2007 10:38:59 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

ping


20 posted on 07/23/2007 10:40:37 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Uncledave
Whine, whine, whine! The best thing is for people not to hire them in the first place. CAIR and the ACLU will be all over any employer that doesn’t bend over for them!
21 posted on 07/23/2007 10:44:15 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (THE TREE OF LIBERTY NEEDS TO BE WATERED FROM TIME TO TIME WITH THE BLOOD OF TYRANTS!!!)
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To: Uncledave

bump for publicity


22 posted on 07/23/2007 10:45:59 AM PDT by VOA
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I don’t trust these workers with our food!!

Yeah, now that their complaining has risen to the level of informing me that Swift Meat Packing employs members of TROP, Swift Meat Packing company may start having problems moving their products at all the supermarlets serviced by Swift Meat Packing company..

23 posted on 07/23/2007 10:46:08 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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To: clamper1797

Dude, I didn’t know there were other fellow believers here on FR! Welcome to the Religion!! (In my sect, we also allow Vodka, Tequila or mixed drinks instead of beer as part of the holy sacrament). But nobody is allowed to watch CNN, WE, Oxygen or Lifetime while drinking during prayer time.


24 posted on 07/23/2007 10:48:17 AM PDT by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't represent me. I'm an American!)
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To: eyedigress
— which employs about 3,000 people in all and about 150 Somalis —

These are the Muslims and this is what they do. What about the TWO THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY Average Joe workers who aren’t scr#wing around?

This is a shakedown lawsuit, nothing more. CAIR has got to stir the pot any way they can, and the scummy Somalis need to go back to Mogadishu and work in the meat packing plant there....oh wait, nothing but sand and death in their own country but at least their precious prayer time won’t be an issue.

25 posted on 07/23/2007 10:50:27 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: clamper1797

Yours is a very rigorous religion - mine tells me to take naps between beers.


26 posted on 07/23/2007 10:50:35 AM PDT by 353FMG (America, first, last and always.)
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To: Uncledave
..."I told him, 'Look, I know I am in America and I know in America there is a freedom of religion for everybody to practice their religion. . . .

Uh...Mohamed....Read it and weep:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;...

Doesn't say anything about private industry prohibiting the free exercise of religion...
27 posted on 07/23/2007 10:51:58 AM PDT by rottndog (Government is a necessary evil, but as with all evils, the less of it the better.)
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To: Uncledave

28 posted on 07/23/2007 10:53:48 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: bpjam

Too funny. I like how you lump in CNN with the feminist channels


29 posted on 07/23/2007 10:57:09 AM PDT by Judges Gone Wild
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To: bpjam

My religion also allows the use of other liquid sacraments. Our most holy day is Sunday during football season where one can watch the most holy of holies ... the Oakland Raiders.


30 posted on 07/23/2007 10:58:09 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72-73 ... USS Midway CVA-41 VA-93 Blue Blazers)
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To: Uncledave
Yeahhhhh, finally! We need more supervisors like this.

Muslims packing meat for Swift? I think I'm going to have to alter my brand choices.

31 posted on 07/23/2007 11:04:26 AM PDT by redstates4ever ("Liberals love America like O.J loved Nicole." Ann Coulter)
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To: Uncledave

They knew up front that they would be working during prayers and spreading their carpet in a food handling area has to be a violation of sanitation codes if not OSHA. If they don’t like working during prayer time get another job that doesn’t interfere or better still move to some Muslim country.


32 posted on 07/23/2007 11:07:51 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Uncledave
Okay, ya know what. We don't work that way.

You are on a production line. You need to be in your slot on the production line. Walking off the production line clogs up the works of the production line.

If you cannot work the way we work here in the west, then go back to whatever hell-hole you crawled out of.

To paraphrase an Australian govt. official; if you need to live where there is Sharia law, then you need to go where there is Sharia Law, and that is not Australia. Or, America.

If you cannot adjust your behavior to the way business works in this country, then you need to go back where you came from.

33 posted on 07/23/2007 11:10:14 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Uncledave
"They are treating (the Somalis) like criminals now — anyone who prays is a criminal."

No they aren't. If they were, your @ss would be in jail. Drama queen.

34 posted on 07/23/2007 11:11:22 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Uncledave

Too bad. Return to your own country and maybe they will listen to your complaining there.


35 posted on 07/23/2007 11:14:33 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: Uncledave
Won't be long before they demand these, if they haven't already.


36 posted on 07/23/2007 11:14:41 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: clamper1797

My Brother!


37 posted on 07/23/2007 11:18:39 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: bpjam

The people say amen...


38 posted on 07/23/2007 11:20:11 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Hillary has already beat Rudy, She is the better cross-dresser.)
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To: Uncledave
There is no reason that the Muslims can not pray.Just don’t do it on someone else’s time. This is not a right in our country. Unfortunately the ACLU will stand behind them, and be paid handsomely for doing so.
39 posted on 07/23/2007 11:24:46 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Uncledave
Will I be able to hold Bible study in my home if I'm a expat working in Saudi Arabia?
40 posted on 07/23/2007 11:25:25 AM PDT by bonehead4freedom (The real way to stop crime is to hug a thug!)
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To: Uncledave
"After he left the production line and began praying, Mohamed said, supervisors took his prayer mat, pulled him up by his collar and sent him crying to a lead supervisor, who fired him."

Excellent! This is of course, pure B.S. Follow one of these muzzies around on his day off, and i'll bet he doesn't stop what ever he's doing and pray at sunset. besides, he's not supposed to pray untill AFTER the sun has set completely, and there is no exact moment that this prayer should be, as long as it is AFTER the sun has set completely. If they pray when the sun is not completely set, they are praying to Satan(they are praying to Satan anyway)because Islamic silly nonsensical scripture says the sun sets on both sides of Satans head.??

41 posted on 07/23/2007 11:27:37 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: NRA2BFree

There is lots of truth in your tag line.


42 posted on 07/23/2007 11:29:09 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Uncledave

Put him on the pork line.


43 posted on 07/23/2007 11:30:35 AM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Uncledave
But yet they’re OK working with non-Halal meat all day.

A Mohammedan can violate all sorts of religious rules just as long as they're committed to eventually dying in jihad because that gets them their get out of jail free card.
44 posted on 07/23/2007 11:30:43 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: bonehead4freedom
And you will be separated from your head.
45 posted on 07/23/2007 11:34:48 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Uncledave
The law in this area sets a standard of "reasonable accommodation."

Example - if a worker wants to take Saturday off due to Sabbath observance, and it can be arranged with other workers to have cover that day, that is a reasonable accommodation. However, worker can be fired if "reasonable accommodation" cannot be met (Example, work schedules cannot be changed so as to honor the Sabbath-off request).

Given that standard, I think Swift will win. Mandating that 70 workers can be off the line for ten minutes at one time (and not a set time given that sunset changes every night) is just not reasonable. Swift surely consulted with their lawyers before they took this action.

When I was in-house counsel for a phone company, we had a female network worker who got religion (fundamentalist Christian) and refused to wear pants. Due to safety rules, the company would not let her climb poles in a dress/skirt, meaning she would be moved to a lower paying job. She sued for religious discrimination and lost due to the reasonable accommodation rule.

I also had a case as a phone company lawyer involving Somalians. They were a group of them living in an apartment, running up huge bills calling Somalia and not paying the bill (mysteriously, according to the residents the guys who made the calls had always just left for Somalia).

When we cut off the phone service a local hack lawyer threatened to sue for racial discrimination. I told him the only color I cared about was green. No lawsuit ever materialized and eventually they paid the bill.

46 posted on 07/23/2007 11:37:03 AM PDT by Martin Tell ("It is the right, good old way you are in: keep in it.")
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To: The Great RJ
"They knew up front that they would be working during prayers and spreading their carpet in a food handling area has to be a violation of sanitation codes if not OSHA. If they don’t like working during prayer time get another job that doesn’t interfere or better still move to some Muslim country."

Funny how they seem to be able to work with pork. According to the Kooky Koran, even looking at pork, a live pig, a picture of a pig is a serious no-no! In fact didn't Muzzies complain in Florida about people eating ham sandwiches in a lunchroom shared by Muzzie workers? Wasn't there another muzzie business that tried to ban an employee from having a ham sandwich in their lunchbag on the premises?

Muzzies aren't here to adapt and live in peacwe in the western world, they are here to convert it to an Islamic hell hole and do away with "man made law" and install Sharia law, just as CAIR stated in a statement around 1998. Islam should be BANNED in this country. It's nothing but a war manual filled with HATE for all who are not muslim, which is supposed to be against the law here.

47 posted on 07/23/2007 11:37:47 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Uncledave

I hope we don’t have too many Muslim air traffic controllers.


48 posted on 07/23/2007 11:37:58 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Uncledave

Disgusting that these people get all upset over this sort of thing but are very happy to put on a bomb belt and blow up some infidels.

Pigs are bad but slicing necks isn’t!


49 posted on 07/23/2007 11:41:41 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (distorted set of "values")
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To: Uncledave

they are just implementing their next stage: force everyone around them to adopt to a Sharia environment, rather than them having to deal with a non-Sharia environment


50 posted on 07/23/2007 11:43:02 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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