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Brazil jet in crash was speeding down runway
MSNBC ^ | July 19, 2007 | Unattributed

Posted on 07/19/2007 8:28:18 PM PDT by gpapa

SÃO PAULO, Brazil - Officials struggled Thursday to determine why a jetliner raced down a runway before crashing in a fireball that killed at least 189 people — an accident that set off a fierce debate over whether to close Brazil's busiest airport.

Security video released by the air force showed TAM Flight 3054 from Porto Alegre speeding down the tarmac more than four times as fast as other planes landing around the same time.

The Airbus-320 skidded off the main runway in a heavy rain, jumped over a highway and slammed into a building Tuesday night, killing all 186 people aboard and at least three people on the ground.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


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1 posted on 07/19/2007 8:28:20 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: gpapa

Um, isn’t that what an airplane is supposed to do ?


2 posted on 07/19/2007 8:29:38 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: gpapa

They got lost and thought they’d made it into California. In the mad rush to get to the ground and become citizens the plane lost control. Duh.

Oh sorry. This is one of those threads where jokes aren’t allowed.


3 posted on 07/19/2007 8:30:55 PM PDT by TheZMan (Texas is no place for pansy-ass liberals. Ya'll move back to California er Mexico er somethin')
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To: gpapa

If the cockpit tape has someone yelling ‘Allah Akbar!’ I’m gonna be looking real hard at the liberals in this country.

Real hard.


4 posted on 07/19/2007 8:34:01 PM PDT by IncPen (The Liberal's Reward is Self Disgust)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Not four times the speed of the other planes landing.


5 posted on 07/19/2007 8:35:39 PM PDT by DB
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To: IncPen

If it was on purpose they would of hit something more important than a warehouse.


6 posted on 07/19/2007 8:36:23 PM PDT by DB
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To: gpapa

my bet is he was drunk and forgot to brake


7 posted on 07/19/2007 8:36:39 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: gpapa

It sounds as if the pilot had a seizure or something, and instead of braking and reversing the engines he managed to speed up instead. It certainly seems like more than just hydroplaning on the wet runway.

I don’t know if the co-pilot would have time to intervene in such a situation.


8 posted on 07/19/2007 8:38:29 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: IncPen

HAHA! LOL!


9 posted on 07/19/2007 8:39:05 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Not when you’re landing.

Sounds like no reverse thrust or those big flaps for landing or those things on top of the wing that come out after landing to hold the plane down. (forgive my lack of proper terminology.)


10 posted on 07/19/2007 8:41:47 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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To: DB

You got a point there.


11 posted on 07/19/2007 8:43:01 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: garyhope

You’re starting to remind me of Stephen Stucker. ;-)


12 posted on 07/19/2007 8:44:12 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Cicero

I think he may have realized too late that he was in deep stuff and accelerated to try to lift off.


13 posted on 07/19/2007 8:44:23 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Cicero

The way I hear it, the pilot was probably trying to take off again... At that airport, if you don’t land early your supposed to try and get off the ground again.

The recorders will tell the full story.


14 posted on 07/19/2007 8:45:05 PM PDT by acw011 (Texan livin Up North.)
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To: gpapa

Maybe the pilot decided to try and take back off for some reason?


15 posted on 07/19/2007 8:46:53 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: rockinqsranch

If he came in at 4 times the speed of norman planes, he’d have to touched down at about 400 mph. I think a normal jetlines corsses the fence about 120 knots.


16 posted on 07/19/2007 8:48:19 PM PDT by JRjr (hMMM?)
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To: rockinqsranch
.....and accelerated to try to lift off.

Concur. Looks like he touched down long (ie., down the runway as opposed to the end where the numbers are) and attempted to rotate again.

Just wasn't enough enough time for the engines to spool back up to get the airspeed back.

JMO, of course....

17 posted on 07/19/2007 8:51:49 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: DB
If it was on purpose they would of hit something more important than a warehouse.

After you've read up on Egypt Air flight 990, see if you don't reconsider your position.

18 posted on 07/19/2007 8:52:10 PM PDT by IncPen (The Liberal's Reward is Self Disgust)
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To: gpapa
You have to have an IQ under 50 to be a reporter these days?
That's called aborting a landing and attempting to go around for another attempt.

In order to get airborne, you see...

never mind

19 posted on 07/19/2007 8:58:31 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: kawaii

It was pouring rain, the drainage from the runway was poor, the runway is very short and the pilot tried to stop, but in vain. Having landed and taken off many times as a passenger from that airport (Congonhas), including a number of aborted landings due to pilot failure to hit in the first 1000 feet, I do not blame the pilot, but the runway length and the weather. There have been many crashes there. This was the worst. It’s the scariest airport I’ve ever seen, where planes land and take off, flying very close to tall buildings, not to mention the sight of the short runway when your are landing there.


20 posted on 07/19/2007 9:00:41 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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