Yeah? Okay. So what? B/c he's got a billion dollars? B/c he owns a new paper? B/c he's a conservative billionaire who owns a news paper? Big deal.
Posted on 07/16/2007 5:32:58 PM PDT by ventana
NEW YORK The Pittsburgh newspaper owned by conservative billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife yesterday called the Bush administration's plans to stay the course in Iraq a "prescription for American suicide."
The editorial in the Tribune-Review added, "And quite frankly, during last Thursday's news conference, when George Bush started blathering about 'sometimes the decisions you make and the consequences don't enable you to be loved,' we had to question his mental stability." ...
(Excerpt) Read more at editorandpublisher.com ...
Nevertheless, I feel the word "victory" is misplaced, and is causing an inescapable separation between our current situation in Iraq and the long term reality of the Islam Problem.
I think that our posture needs to be changed to "I think we have made our point, do you want some more?" with respect to those who have perverted the Quran to inspire the mentally deficient to remove themselves from the breeding pool by blowing themselves up. Every suicide bomber, agonizing as they are, rids us of one more really gullible gene we are better off without. Every Muslim who fails to withstand the temptation to violate 2 restrictions (commit suicide, kill non-combatants) in the Quran in order to fulfill 1 (fight for justice),which sends them straight to hell, simply hastens the day until the agents of Satan have no more souls to steal and dreams to ruin.
But we need to make an end.
We have done a lot, and more than we will ever be given credit for (certainly by our own), but now we need to make sure that our exit is accompanied by the correct rationale. What shall we say that best expresses the truth that we rid them of so much evil and we now feel that the next step must move forward without us. This is not "Victory," or "Defeat." It is simply progress. For freedom to march, it must march boldly, and it must stand on its own.
So, Freepers. You are the smart guys (and chicks...lol). What perfect statement of intent will usher in this next phase of the Iraq conflict, when our brothers, with our aid and support, stride forth to stand against those whom even Allah surely loathes?
Don't say it here. No paper trail that lets us all know how smart you are (we already know)will serve. Send it on paper to the White House. Send a lot of them.
I neglected to say that I thought this statement of President Bush's was perhaps the most powerfully and simply true statement I have ever heard him utter, worthy of Lincoln and his circumstances, and the fact that a "Conservative" newspaper saw this as evidence of mental instability was laughably shallow. v.
Ping
Is that so?
And we need to make an end in Germany?.
And we need to make an end in Japan?.
And we need to make an end in Korea?
The end will come in time frames that are measured by long term historical perspective, not 30 minute media sound bites.
Sorry, I can’t agree with your position or your post. - Or Kerry’s for that matter.
And frankly, I think that we should maintain a long term presence in the Middle East right there, next to Iran and Syria. - Very long term.
Yeah? Okay. So what? B/c he's got a billion dollars? B/c he owns a new paper? B/c he's a conservative billionaire who owns a news paper? Big deal.
Scaif lives in Murtha’s district and has propped up the senile old fart for years. Richard Mellon may have gone after Bubba, but he has not been acted conservative since.
His men are so much more interesting than his women.
Like many illustrators of his time, his women all look alike while his men are individuals.
Two Strikes
Fanned Out
I beg to differ with you, one country doesn't "progress" or "make and end" to achieve peace nor does one leave the battle field without scoring a victory. If one does, it is rightfully called "defeat."
During WWII, most Americans understood the fact that this nation had two enemies on either side of the world.
Both of these enemies were sworn to kill or be killed in favor of victory.
Unfortunately for America, it wasn't until December 7, 1941, that we woke up to that fact. We chose not to negotiate for peace with Japan and also finally after almost a decade realized that Germany's appetite for world domination didn't end with Poland, Hungary, France, or all of Europe.
After scoring a victory, we stayed in Germany after WWII as people realized that the Nazi Party was so very dangerous that to leave, did not assure that same enemy of reconstituting itself to again continue it's desire for world power at any cost.
Neither do you "negotiate peace" with an enemy destined to kill you no matter what continent you live on. These terrorists have promised to "strike us" in our own country and I, personally, take them at their word.
They have already proved themselves ready, willing and able to do so even if it means at the cost of their lives as well as the lives of their friends.
Our military understand this even if you choose not to.
The editorial with FReeper comments regarding Scaife and Tribune-Review.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1866456/posts?page=15#1
Are we now going to go into the business of going ape every time some crackpot 3rd year journalism stupid gets a wild eyed piece publised in some crackpot ed op column? Since when do the crazies pull OUR chains?
Here’s a tip... lets stick to sittin back N smlin while the crazies crap THEIR undies reacting to OUR reasoned op-eds, certainly not the other way around....
Make sense cisco?
Thanks, jaz.
I’ll say one thing about the person who wrote the editorial - he (she) knows how to use hyperbole. “American suicide”? Questioning Bush’s “mental stability”. Seems like a feeble attempt at humor.
I’ll say one thing about the person who wrote the editorial - he (she) knows how to use hyperbole. “American suicide”? Questioning Bush’s “mental stability”. Seems like a feeble attempt at humor.
On the issue of the War on Terror, I must say that most people I know consider President Bush as remarkably stable.
He is not suicidal, whatsoever: he is committed—and he is perceived to be committed. Many of us, on this issue, stand with him, regardless of the overheated, emotion-raddled rhetoric of those who oppose this war.
Remember Kipling’s poem? “If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, and blaming it on you...” Well, with respect to the WOT, that is what the president is doing. Remarkably well, with honor.
No one can take that away from him.
As far as mental instability is concerned, let’s turn that microscope on some congressional and media critics, shall we?
It takes a special kind of idiot (Pelosi, Reid, this asshat) to call that "staying the course". It's radically altering the course.
Right now Al Qaida is being engaged by the U.S. Military on someone else's soil. It can't get any better than that. Al Qaida isn't going away, no one is better at killing them than the U.S. Military and the innocents lost in the crossfire are not Americans.
Untrue statement. The koran is NOT perverted by these suicide bombers, they are merely following it's dictates. They are true believers, not radicals. The religion itself is a cult and needs to be wiped off the face of the earth. Your entire post is actually in agreement with the article posted but you are trying to sugar coat it.
Bush needs to stand firm on this particular doctrine.
The T-R ceased being a conservative paper along time ago. I don’t think Scaife has anything to do with it any longer other than ownership. Don’t think he gives a crap who they hire for the editorial staff, etc. I used to buy the paper for years and have it mailed to me a day late just to support the paper, but when it changed, I was relieved of my financial obligations as a conservative and thankful to give up my donation to the tune of $ 200+/yr. back in the ‘90’s.
BRILLIANT.
Now if Bush handles this right, he could get the DUmmies convinced the way to get back at Richard Scaife, is to boldly support the war, and our brave troops.
It could just work... ;)
Walking away from Al-queda will be turning our backs on thugs with bombs.
How mentally disturbed (or stupid) is that?
Do you also think we should have a draft? If the US has to maintain a large footprint (100,000 troops plus) in Iraq long term our ground forces should be much larger than they are right now, at least a 16 to 18 Division Army IMO. I don't see how that will be accomplished in a reasonable amount of time without a draft.
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