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Is Hillary Clinton a neocon?
Financial Times ^ | 7/10/2007 | Edward Crane

Posted on 07/10/2007 11:47:23 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

“You know, when I ask people, ‘What do you think the goals of America are today?’ people don’t have any idea. We don’t know what we’re trying to achieve. And I think that in a life or in a country you’ve got to have some goals.” Senator Hillary Clinton, MSNBC, May 11 2007

Senator Hillary Clinton’s worldview, as formulated above, is starkly at odds with that of America’s founders. The idea that the American nation had “goals”, just as individuals do, would have been wholly alien to them. For them the whole undertaking of government was to protect our “self-evident” rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. This emphasis on the primacy of the individual is the essence of true American exceptionalism.

National goals are a euphemism for concentrated national political power. The “Old World” was full of nations with goals, almost all pernicious. The concept of national goals is not so much un-American as it is non-American. But Mrs Clinton persists in promoting the concept, saying at a recent campaign speech in New Hampshire that rather than an “ownership society” she would “prefer a ‘we’re all in it together’ society”. She frequently invokes the notion that Americans want “to be part of something bigger than themselves”.

She has an unusual ally in this. The one other powerful political force in the US today that shares her frustration over the lack of national goals is neoconservatism. Neocons call it “national greatness”. Their theorists Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan called President George W. Bush’s willingness to “engage wherever necessary around the world” a recognition of “an essential part of national greatness”.

Perhaps its most articulate proponent, however, is David Brooks, the New York Times columnist. Mr Brooks wrings his hands in a Weekly Standard article that “Americans have discarded their pursuit of national greatness in just about every particular”. And how would he describe that goal? “Individual ambition and willpower are channelled into the cause of national greatness. And by making the nation great, individuals are able to join their narrow concerns to a larger national project.” “Ultimately,” he continues, “American purpose can find its voice only in Washington.”

Mrs Clinton would appear to have found a soulmate in Mr Brooks, if not a future running mate.

Yet there is more to Mrs Clinton’s neocon connections. Another characteristic she shares is the promiscuity with which both camps would use the federal government – as if there simply were no constitutional limits on federal power. Given the neocons’ high profile in pushing us into the Iraq war, it is often overlooked how far their domestic policies unfailingly call for vigorous federal initiatives.

The federal takeover of education, dubbed “No Child Left Behind”, is a neocon project. So, too, was the Faith-based Initiative that funded local religious organisations. Mr Brooks recently called for presidential candidates to “create a flourishing families committee. Get economists, religious activists, and psychologists in one room to figure out how government can reduce stress on struggling families”. This would be the same government that took three days to discover that Hurricane Katrina had created a bit of a problem in New Orleans.

Not to be outdone, in It Takes a Village (the “village” being the federal government), Mrs Clinton suggests the government should fund videos on baby care that “could be running continuously in doctors’ offices, clinics, hospitals, motor vehicle offices, or any other place where people gather and have to wait”. Shades of 1984.

Expansive government is always going to be a project of those who would subject individuals to collective, national goals. The founders were well aware of this danger, which is why they gave us a constitution of enumerated – and therefore limited – powers. As Thomas Jefferson put it: “I consider the foundations of the constitution as laid on this ground that ‘all powers not delegated to the US, by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states or to the people’. To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power no longer susceptible of any definitions.”

Mrs Clinton looks in danger of following the fateful path of the neocons, with her aim to take possession of that boundless field.

The writer is president of the Cato Institute


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1 posted on 07/10/2007 11:47:26 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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I take exception to that slur on neo-cons. Its more accurate to characterize Hillary Clinton as a neo-com. She's Hugo Chavez In A Pantsuit.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 07/10/2007 11:50:21 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

hillary is a national socialist


3 posted on 07/10/2007 11:52:25 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: goldstategop

Agreed. Her “goals” are identical to his - communism thinly disguised as socialism.


4 posted on 07/10/2007 11:53:07 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: bruinbirdman

Is Ted Nugent a liberal?


5 posted on 07/10/2007 11:54:40 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: bruinbirdman
“Is Hillary Clinton a neocon?”

Nope - she’s been conning folks for a loooooong time.

6 posted on 07/10/2007 11:55:12 PM PDT by decal (Sign over DNC headquarters: Please Check Common Sense And Morals At The Door)
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To: bruinbirdman
Mrs Clinton suggests the government should fund videos on baby care that “could be running continuously in doctors’ offices, clinics, hospitals, motor vehicle offices

Just what is needed to whittle away the time in line.

7 posted on 07/10/2007 11:56:23 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: razorback-bert
And it would probably be in Spanish with English subtitles.
8 posted on 07/10/2007 11:57:11 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: bruinbirdman

How is a European styled socialist not a European styled socalist?


9 posted on 07/10/2007 11:59:13 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Neo-con or neo-liberal? What’s the difference...a choice of Global Governance decreed from either Brussels or the UN-NYC?
10 posted on 07/11/2007 12:00:25 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: bruinbirdman

I don’t know why the author would ask if Hillary was Jewish.


11 posted on 07/11/2007 12:10:51 AM PDT by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
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To: bruinbirdman

Shrillery a neo-cON?

Goodness no!

She’s a Move-ON-morON!

Unless she’s mere slug slime.

A growing number would vote for the latter.


12 posted on 07/11/2007 12:18:01 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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The title is worded wrong and the reasoning is tortured. I think it would have been better to keep it simpler and simply ask: Are Neocons as Bad as Hillary?

Hillary is the template of socialism and big government. You don’t have to waste many words imagining what government would be like under Hillary. The question is, do the neocons have the same goals as Hillary does? I think it’s a fair question, and a fairly complicated one to answer, since the Bush government is not all neocon (though some of it is) and isn’t all that successful in pushing its policy goals.

I don’t know the answer, but I would prefer to read a discussion in these terms, rather than the the way it was stated in this article.


13 posted on 07/11/2007 1:33:44 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
"The question is, do the neocons have the same goals as Hillary does?"

Ah, the definition of "neocon".

Coined by Irving Kristol, he would tell you it is any leftist who would even consider pondering a conservative concept. Better would be a leftist who adopted even one conservative concept.

Ever since David Horowitz converted from being a dedicated Communist to embracing a fervent convervative ideology, the left (those who would control language) has sought to co-opt the meaning of neo-con.

Did Kristol use "con" to mean "convert"? Or, as the left would co-opt the entire concept, as new "conservative", the fervent Horowitz or William Kristol types who wouldn't mind American capitalist free enterprise under the rule of law representative democracy as a world model ("goal of a nation")?

See, the left can't have anyone think a leftist could even consider one aspect of conservatism, let alone become a convert. Therefore, the attempt to make the term "neo-con" a pejorative by ignoring Irving Kristol's definition and substituting their own. To wit, "conservatives want to rule the world".

yitbos

14 posted on 07/11/2007 1:55:32 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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Oh, she's "Neo" alright...


15 posted on 07/11/2007 2:27:19 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: bruinbirdman
FT has a serious left-wing bias. I read it for financial news, but whenever they touch a political issue, it follows the left's script.

Regarding Hillary, any idiot knows she's not a neocon.
We just aren't sure if she is Satan or the Anti-Christ.

16 posted on 07/11/2007 2:39:50 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: goldstategop

Didn’t leftist ‘journalists’ create the term in the first place?


17 posted on 07/11/2007 2:57:14 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: bruinbirdman
"IZ DA BAT A NEOCON?"

NO SHE IS A NINCOMPOOP

18 posted on 07/11/2007 3:02:24 AM PDT by DeaconRed (If it weren't for the United States Military-There would be NO United States of America.)
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To: bruinbirdman

“Is Hillary Clinton a neocon? “
NO, she is a murdering, pervert enableing, p.o.s.


19 posted on 07/11/2007 3:14:19 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, whose presidential campaign has been overshadowed in recent weeks by charismatic rival Sen. Barack Obama, D-IL, today walked into a K-Street beauty salon in Washington, D.C., commandeered the clippers and shaved her head down to the bare skin. “If Britney Spears can milk a week’s worth of top headlines from this trivial act, so can I,” said a visibly-agitated Mrs. Clinton, who, as it turns out, has “magnificent head shape,” according to the stylist on duty. The candidate said she has not ruled out visits to tattoo and piercing parlors, and will do “whatever it takes.” “I’m in, and I’m in to win,” she said. “The American voters can now see that I have much a larger cranium than Sen. Obama, and I think they’ll draw their own conclusions.” http://www.scrappleface.com/
20 posted on 07/11/2007 4:04:51 AM PDT by mirkwood ("May noise never excite us to battle, or confusions reduce us to defeat.")
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