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China's Massive Dam Changing Weather[Three Gorges Dam]
Discovery News ^ | 22 June 2007 | Larry O'Hanlon

Posted on 06/29/2007 6:47:20 AM PDT by BGHater

Two years before its completion, the world’s largest dam is already changing the local weather, say scientists studying the Three Gorges Dam on China’s Yangtze River. Both modeling and actual meteorological data suggest that the reservoir is cooling its valley, which is causing changes in rainfall.

"In China there are a lot of people who complain because of the construction of the dam" and specifically about changes in local weather, said climate modeler Liguang Wu of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center and the University of Maryland in College Park.

To find out if the dam was really to blame, Wu and his colleagues collaborated with Chinese scientists to study the changing climate around what will soon be a 401-square-mile reservoir of more than 5 trillion gallons of water and a hydroelectric power plant 20 times more powerful than the Hoover Dam.

The researchers combined satellite data and ground weather stations to create a computer climate simulation, which they then compared to what has already happened in recent years.

The construction of the dam and changes to the land and vegetation around it have been recorded for years by the NASA-US Geological Survey Landsat satellites. They show steady progress from 2000 to today, with the biggest changes in 2004, when the reservoir was partially filled and water backed up into many side canyons.

By last summer the main wall of the dam was done and the water in the reservoir was two miles across.

"Frequently people tend to use these (Landsat images) in a time series," said Jeff Masek a Landsat scientist at NASA. Because Landsat satellites have been operating since 1972, there are a lot of human changes to be seen, he said.

What’s more, since the data is available to the world, many countries, like China, can use them to get a different view of what’s happening on their own land.

More recently, other NASA satellites have been watching the weather changes, said Wu. The Tropical Rainfall Measuring Mission (TRMM) provided some data to estimate changes in rainfall, while the Terra and Aqua satellites kept track of surface temperatures. Among the surprise weather changes has been the increase in rainfall between the Daba and Oinling mountains, said Wu.

The rains come from a "lake effect" intensification of precipitation, like that seen around the Great Lakes of North America. The lake effect happens when already moist air picks up more moisture as it crosses over a warm body of water, then rains or snows it out quickly upon reaching the shore.

"It’s not totally bad news," Wu said of the added rain. Some people want the added moisture. On the other hand, as the water was rising in 2003, some areas around the dam saw less rainfall, Wu said.

In all, a whopping 62 square miles of land are expected to see weather effects from the dam, he said. That’s more than ten times the area originally predicted, he said.

In a way, he said, Three Gorges is a great laboratory for studying how well local climate changes caused by very local land-use changes can be detected and distinguished from larger-scale global climate change.

"To me it’s a scientific issue," Wu told Discovery News. Wu and his colleagues published their work in a recent issue of Geophysical Research Letters.

At almost 4,000 miles, the Yangtze is the fourth longest river in the world, discharging into the sea about twice the water of the Mississippi. For as long as people have kept records, the Yangtze has been in the habit of periodically overflowing its banks and flooding vast areas. Controlling that ancient threat, along with producing electricity, are the main goals of the Three Gorges Dam.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: china; clueless; dam; energy; environment; hydro; renewenergy; threegorges; water; weather
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1 posted on 06/29/2007 6:47:21 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

Wasn’t there once a claim that large dams and reservoirs in the Northern Hemisphere are causing the Earth to “wobble” more on its axis, thus causing extreme changes in weather? LOL!


2 posted on 06/29/2007 6:50:31 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: BGHater
"Three Gorges is a great laboratory for studying how well local climate changes caused by very local land-use changes can be detected and distinguished from larger-scale global climate change."

And since it was constructed by peasant labor, its ultimate collapse will also be a great laboratory.

3 posted on 06/29/2007 6:52:38 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: TommyDale

“...Earth to “wobble” more on its axis,...”

I think I read something about that once at FlatEarth.dum., or some gravity impaired site.


4 posted on 06/29/2007 6:54:39 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: TommyDale
Among the surprise weather changes has been the increase in rainfall between the Daba and Oinling mountains, said Wu.

If Wu is really surprised, then he's never lived in Cleveland, Buffalo, Chicago or any other area near the Great Lakes.

Lake effect precipitation near (and especially downwind) large inland bodies of water is about as predictable as the sun rising in the east.

5 posted on 06/29/2007 6:56:29 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Uncledave

Dam!

:)


6 posted on 06/29/2007 7:00:17 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: BGHater

Why isn’t Al Gore writing a book on this right now?


7 posted on 06/29/2007 7:02:39 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: Enterprise
...its ultimate collapse will also be a great laboratory.

BTW--How are those cracks in the dam doing?

8 posted on 06/29/2007 7:03:24 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: randog

Probably getting wider as we speak!


9 posted on 06/29/2007 7:05:46 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: randog

Cheap Chinese cement just like cheap Chinese Walmart goods?


10 posted on 06/29/2007 7:08:56 AM PDT by Redcitizen (Grond! Grond! Grond!)
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To: BGHater

Well then, Greenpeace will just have to mount an eco-guerilla operation to take that sucker down.


11 posted on 06/29/2007 7:11:05 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: Enterprise
And since it was constructed by peasant labor, its ultimate collapse will also be a great laboratory.

As opposed to Hoover Dam, which was constructed in the middle of the Great Depression entirely by Harvard-educated itinerant bond traders?

I'm not sure I get your point.

12 posted on 06/29/2007 7:19:44 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

You are clueless.


13 posted on 06/29/2007 7:27:54 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: BGHater
actual meteorological data suggest that the reservoir is cooling its valley,

I see a solution to a problem here people. More dams = more cooling.

14 posted on 06/29/2007 7:53:07 AM PDT by feedback doctor (Prayers for the fallen Charleston, SC firefighters - No Greater Love . . .)
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15 posted on 06/29/2007 8:07:12 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (NY Times: "fake but accurate")
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To: BGHater
In all, a whopping 62 square miles of land are expected to see weather effects from the dam, he said.

What? That's only 10 miles by 6.2 miles. Nothing.

16 posted on 06/29/2007 8:12:08 AM PDT by beebuster2000 (choice is not not peace or war, but small war now, or big war later masquerading as peace now.)
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To: BGHater

Are they trying to say that Beijing didn’t get an Environmental Impact Study??? OK, who screwed up?


17 posted on 06/29/2007 8:12:56 AM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: TommyDale
Wasn’t there once a claim that large dams and reservoirs in the Northern Hemisphere are causing the Earth to “wobble” more on its axis, thus causing extreme changes in weather? LOL!

That would be on par with saying that using a permanent marker on a white onion will change the way it rolls.

18 posted on 06/29/2007 8:13:23 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: BGHater

Of course the dam is large enough to affect weather. The Pyramids at Giza changed the weather in the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea so it hasn’t rained much since construction.


19 posted on 06/29/2007 8:14:41 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Vigilanteman
Lake effect precipitation near (and especially downwind) large inland bodies of water is about as predictable as the sun rising in the east.

Somehow, I have to wonder just how much effect Three Gorges will really have:

~3 X the acre-footage of Shasta Lake;

~1/4 the surface area of Salt Lake.

OTOH, Lake Eire is ~5-6 times the surface area of Salt Lake, as well as much deeper.

20 posted on 06/29/2007 8:20:29 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Every day is BLOAT Day: .22 .24 .25 .27 .30 .32 .38 .40 .41 .44 .45 .50 --- do I hear a dollar?)
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