Posted on 06/27/2007 3:00:09 PM PDT by mdittmar
The Senate's revived legislation to legalize millions of unlawful immigrants faces a critical test Thursday after surviving potentially fatal challenges.
Attempts from the right and left to alter key elements of the delicate bipartisan compromise failed Wednesday, including a Republican proposal to deny illegal immigrants a path to citizenship and Democratic bids to reunite legal immigrants with family members.
The Senate killed, by a 56-41 vote, an amendment by Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., to provide more green cards for parents of U.S. citizens. By a 55-40 margin, it tabled a proposal by Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., to give family members of citizens and legal permanent residents more credit toward green cards in a new merit- based points system.
A make-or-break procedural vote was set for Thursday, however, as the Senate plowed through amendments that supporters hoped would address waverers' concerns.
Facing determined opposition from conservatives who call the bill amnesty, leaders need 60 votes to keep the measure alive and complete it as early as Friday.
The Senate on Wednesday killed several proposals designed to answer conservatives' concerns that the bill, championed by President Bush, is overly lenient toward illegal immigrants. Among the amendments was one by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, to require all adult illegal immigrants to return home temporarily to qualify for permanent lawful status. The current bill requires only heads of household seeking permanent legal residency to return home to apply for green cards.
"I don't see how I could support this bill in any form," Hutchison said after the vote. She had characterized her proposal as a way of removing "the amnesty tag" from the legislation.
An amendment by Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., also defeated, would have restricted legal status applications to those who have been in the United States for four years. The bill would allow anyone in the U.S. as of Jan. 1, 2007, to be eligible.
A bid by Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., to deny green cards to unlawful immigrants also failed.
The bill, which also would toughen border security and institute a new system for weeding out illegal immigrants from workplaces, is facing more challenges.
Particularly worrisome to backers of the bill is an amendment by Sens. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Max Baucus, D- Mont., to overhaul the employee verification system.
Grasping for more GOP support, Republican framers of the bill were proposing their own, less burdensome return-home requirement for illegal immigrants. It would apply only to heads of household and would give them three years.
Votes on key amendments were continuing Wednesday under a complex and carefully orchestrated procedure designed to overcome stalling tactics by conservative foes. It allowed votes only on a limited list of amendments before Thursday's critical test vote.
Tensions ran high on the usually courtly Senate floor, where Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., was keeping a tight rein on the debate to prevent critics from derailing the bill.
Conservatives, irate at a process that has essentially stymied their ability to filibuster, said Senate leaders were trying to rush through a bad bill.
"The American people have said loud and clear that this is an incredibly important issue to them. For the Senate to move ahead anyway using this process, railroading me and other critics of the bill and blocking our rights as senators to represent our constituents, is disgraceful," said Sen. David Vitter, R-La.
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The bill is S 1639
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
According to Major Garrett on FNC the bill is in serious trouble. We can hope...
I see they passed to Menendez amendment that will keep “families together”. I guess that’s what happens when you trek 1500 miles in the desert to invade another country.
God help us all.
Apparently Slimey Hairy tried to slip in 30 pages of “technical changes” and pissed off some GOPers who were leaning toward ending debate tomorrow. Brilliant strategery, Hairy!
I have been almost in shock watching this movement the last weeks.
What I keep wondering, seriously, is why is GWB and the Senate wanting to change the demographics of this country overnight? Why? Surely they know the result.
If there are 20 million illegals and they are immediately made legal and on a path to citizenship, and each brings in a wife and four children, the country will be half hispanic in the next ten years.
And people with no history of our way of government will overnight be electing every elected official we have. Without a knowledge of the civics, the history, the blood shed to have what we have, and with a distaste for us.
This is the most important issue ever voted on other than the Civil War. I cannot fathom the support, the lack of openess, the dealing, the manipulation.
Money alone doesn’t do this.
Why is GWB selling our country out?
Which is this now, the third or the fourth Senate showdown on this bill that will not die?
For the Democrats, I would strongly suggest taking a pro-union/anti-illegal alien stance (i.e. they are taking our jobs) rather than using the conservative national security angle.
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Can’t have their NAU if this doesn’t go through.
It also show what a farce "the war on terror" is. I hate going through airports and being searched.
Cool tagline.
I’m sure there’s a back-story that you’ll let me in on....
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I've been watching the "debate" on C-Span2 today and I heard this exchange. Every time Vitter opened his mouth, tried to object to something, etc....Reid cut him off and said he wasn't recognized. Finally Vitter was able to make this comment. Reid has been a tyrant in this all day.
Nuking hippies at Woodstock.
Get rid of the bill and also get rid of those Senators for amnesty!
“Money alone doesnt do this”
When you are talking about many billions (with a B) of $ going into big business’ pockets by using cheap labor, and they control the government, it explains a lot.
If you follow the money, you find out the real reasons for a lot of crap in Government.
Selling (or “buying” votes), I guess...
Good contact list.
BTTT.
/That is as likely as anything I can think of.
None of this makes sense. You don’t sell your country for money or for anything. You sell a business, sell your wife, sell your car, give your life for another country in war but you don’t sell your country.
Amazing how Bush and the GOP Senate are willing to fight tooth and nail for Amnesty, but not for getting judges confirmed. The number of appeals court judges confirmed in Bush’s 2nd term is apalling.
Also therefore, true conservative voters are to be ignored and true conservative officials are to be marginalized with the quick passage of this bill.
This removes a key plank in Fred Thompson’s platform thereby mooting the issue of immigration by making it established law before election time.
All of these tie neatly and simply up into one paragraph when you establish that the aims of these two formerly disparate groups are truly one and the same.
According to the above article, Menendez’ amendment was NOT passsed.
I think he will not vote for cloture.
Lord, I hope so....
MOgirl
I think the Menendez amendment failed.
Bonds and Hutchison were fence sitters on this issue but now it’s a guarantee they will vote to kill this bill and hopefully once it’s dead this time it will stay dead.
I love my country but now I hate my government. I will NEVER vote for these people again.
This bill is going to pass. Get used to it. It’s nothing more than political theatre choreographed to the picking up on the final pen stroke. Maybe that was President Bush’s plan the entire time. Amnesty is passed. Pissed-off RKBA and other patriots riot in the streets and CWII begins as REAL Americans recognize their coveted U.S. citizenship is nothing more than another tissue to use for post-bowel movement rectal hygiene.
No other kick backs to the rest of the list. :)
Piss-off,Oh sorry,I meant I can see you are Pissed-off.
Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! Its NOT OVER!!
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Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!
You will see a remarkable thing on the cloture vote. For every Senator who was turned off by the "clay pigeon" tactic and place a no vote, others will have their own roads to Damascus and will vote yes.
You would prefer to be Pissed on? Didn't believe this place would attract that type!
Guess we will see tomorrow.
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The path to citizenship is NOT the objection to the current immigration bill!
It is the immediate legalization without having first secured the border, provided for meaningful background checks, and subsequent issuance of tamperproof IDs.
It is that probationary status is renewable every four years.
It is lack of a system to manage the VISIT system, which would keep track of people who overstay their VISAs.
It is the tripling of chain migration, before closing the door in 2016.
There is no true incentive for illegal immigrants to get on the path to citizenship!
And finally, I object to the proponents of this bill pretending that Im a racist, instead of addressing my true objections above.
There was one other theory I read on another immigration thread - it’s scary enough to make sense...
Amnesty is just a way of getting 15-20 million voters lined up for Prescott Bush’s WH run.
Now you are getting close to the truth.
Note that Democrats feel fully justified in stopping Republican filibusters whenever they want. Recall that Republicans threw their hands up in despair when presented with Democratic filibuster during the Great Judge Fiascos.
Now tell me how understands political power - Democrats or Republicans?
Exactly, this last week has been very bad public theater for the royal subjects... I suspect the Bill will pass the Senate and some of the Senators will act shocked that their proposed amendments have been struck from the bill... This is a Bush/Kennedy Bill just like that No Child Left Behind crap that they F##@%^% the taxpayer with.
Yeah right...they can't even return for court dates after they've been released back into the general population, to where they shouldn't have been in the first place.
Does anyone want and need their (in general) enormous families milking the system while they are gone? As if it's not bad enough already??
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