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FOX LIVE: Hume, Krauthammer predict Immigration Bill Will Pass Senate.
FNC ^ | 6/17/07 | Chris Wallace

Posted on 06/17/2007 4:02:41 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty

You can watch today's "Fox News Sunday" with Chris Wallace on a podcast at the link.

Krauthammer opines that only the House can stop the Immigration Bill, now.

(Also, there's a really good interview with Petraeus.)

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


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D you agree the Immigration Bill is going to pass the Senate?

Why?

Are we ready to start calling the congress critters?

(I have the CA numbers; do you have yours?)

1 posted on 06/17/2007 4:02:49 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Learn to speak spanish. Si habla espanol.


2 posted on 06/17/2007 4:04:15 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Sleeping Beauty

3 posted on 06/17/2007 4:04:57 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: Sleeping Beauty

No pasaran!


4 posted on 06/17/2007 4:06:39 PM PDT by SolidWood (Muslims: If they cant eat it or have sex with it they destroy it.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

You mean they actually pre-empted the wall-2-wall Paris Hilton coverage for an ISSUE?!?


5 posted on 06/17/2007 4:06:49 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
D you agree the Immigration Bill is going to pass the Senate? Why?

Yes. The politicians know that if they don't get it passed now it will be years of dickering before there is another chance.

6 posted on 06/17/2007 4:10:04 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Old Sarge
You mean they actually pre-empted the wall-2-wall Paris Hilton coverage for an ISSUE?!?

Yeah, but not for long. Some babbling head show is about to begin.

7 posted on 06/17/2007 4:10:39 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty

“Do you agree the Immigration Bill is going to pass the Senate?”

Well it certainly is possible. Let’s be honest,it’s not like the Senate is populated by men and woman of principle and conviction, just a bunch of self serving politicians with no sense of right or wrong !!!


8 posted on 06/17/2007 4:11:44 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Sleeping Beauty
You're right that they both predicted that the bill will pass the senate. They also both predicted that the bill would pass the senate before Reid shut it down in it's first incarnation. They both again believe that it will pass the senate this time around-although neither is as emphatic about it this time.

They both also firmly believe that the bill is going to hit a brick wall in the house.

9 posted on 06/17/2007 4:12:23 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Was there a white bronco?? DEAR GOD, tell me there was a white bronco!!!

( /Greta Van Gasbag voice)


10 posted on 06/17/2007 4:13:41 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

It will pass the senate. Our only hope is the house , where there are a few actual conservatives.


11 posted on 06/17/2007 4:13:47 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Sort of better than Gore or Kerry, but that's about it.........)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Hey! American Taxpayers:


12 posted on 06/17/2007 4:14:22 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: skimbell

“You’re right that they both predicted that the bill will pass the senate. They also both predicted that the bill would pass the senate before Reid shut it down in it’s first incarnation.”

WE CAN STILL STOP IT. The Senators need to feel the heat to see the light!
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/


13 posted on 06/17/2007 4:14:47 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! 202-224-3121.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

I think that the people in Washington have finally realized that they don’t have to do what we want them to. If the Democrats and Republicans collude on enough bad policy to where there’s no difference between the two parties in what they actually do (as opposed to what they talk about doing) it becomes like the old soviet union and nobody gets the upper hand.

Meanwhile, here in our online bastion of freedom and democracy there are still idiots who will blast anyone who considers voting third party if the two large parties nominate unacceptable candidates.

Remember, in America, we get the government we deserve and we ask for.

If you’re not willing to punish RINOs - not only by withholding your vote in primaries, but in a general election - don’t complain about what happens to the county. The fact of the matter is that when it comes to things like this, we’d be much better of as smaller, motivated to fight, obstructionist party than being complicit in the destruction of our country.


14 posted on 06/17/2007 4:14:53 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: skimbell
They both again believe that it will pass the senate this time around-although neither is as emphatic about it this time.

Even Juan Williams agrees with that. But we can't take anything for granted. There's clearly a lot going on behind the scenes that is moving history in a certain direction.

15 posted on 06/17/2007 4:16:41 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Two issues here. Will it pass the Senate? Maybe. Will Fox News present any coverage or commentary that might hurt its passage? Absolutely, not.


16 posted on 06/17/2007 4:17:39 PM PDT by Biblebelter (I can't believe people still watch TV with the sound on.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Fox News is just about the WORST outlet for immigration bill coverage

Any Freeper’s opinion is miles more informed than Hume’s or anyone at Fox.

P.S. How many illegals does Geraldo employ??


17 posted on 06/17/2007 4:19:01 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Old Sarge
( /Greta Van Gasbag voice)

LOL Sarge. I refer to all the Sunday news shows as:

The Sabbath Gasbags


18 posted on 06/17/2007 4:19:02 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Ready for my next round of calls!!!!


19 posted on 06/17/2007 4:20:03 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Of course it will succeed in passing the Senate - they are the quintessential Parliament of Whores.

The devil, as they say, shall be in the details. The mark-up on the conference bill should produce something decidely different than we now have.

Not that it shall be better.


20 posted on 06/17/2007 4:20:08 PM PDT by alloysteel (Choose carefully the hill you would die upon. For if you win, the view is magnificent.)
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To: traditional1

Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


21 posted on 06/17/2007 4:20:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Well they are as far between elections as they can be.

They want to pass the controversial crap now so that the idiots who vote for them won’t be seeing this stuff on the so called News a year from November.

22 posted on 06/17/2007 4:20:23 PM PDT by Radix (Claim 10 dependents on your W-2 and have the Gov't struggle to make ends meet.)
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To: Old Sarge
the wall-2-wall Paris Hilton

One of our custodians at work put a sign on the trash can he wheels around..."Free Paris!"

23 posted on 06/17/2007 4:20:31 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Give me 10 days and we'll be at war with those SOB's - I'll make it look like their fault!")
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To: Sleeping Beauty

This is nonsense. Mitch McConnell is not sure it will pass. All these pundits are clueless.


24 posted on 06/17/2007 4:22:05 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Old_Mil
No, we get the best money can buy.
25 posted on 06/17/2007 4:22:17 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("Courage is when you are scared to death, saddle up and ride out anyway." John F'in Wayne.)
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To: Biblebelter
Will Fox News present any coverage or commentary that might hurt its passage? Absolutely, not.

Hey. That's not their job. Remember, they're "fair and balanced."

26 posted on 06/17/2007 4:23:33 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Krauthammer is not quite as bad as the rest of the open border loonies at Fox News but they’ve been wrongly predicting its passage in the Senate from the beginning. It can still be stopped and we can’t let up.


27 posted on 06/17/2007 4:24:49 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: clintonh8r
I'm not so sure. The "smart money" says that Reid wouldn't bring the monster back to life if it wasn't a done deal. All of the talking heads knowingly nod at one another and acknowledge that "it'll surely go through this time". But every now and then you'll hear one of them in an unguarded moment say something that lets on like they aren't at all sure.

Everybody knows what is needed. Keep the heat on them. They're all so damned concerned with holding their seat that they'd do or say anything that they think will help hold their office.

It doesn't take too many of the worms to make it impossible for this unholy bill to fly in the sunshine. The back room deals are the killers, and those are the things that these spinless leeches need to answer for.

28 posted on 06/17/2007 4:27:57 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've contacted both my Senators (one RINO, and the other a pure socialist who beat out our other RINO), and my Congressman, too (another waste of time, as he's a Democrat/Liberal/Socialist, too).

MONEY is talking, and that will pass the Amnesty bill, while the taxpayers foot the cost.

29 posted on 06/17/2007 4:28:36 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: WOSG

It is time to replace the tin ears. All they can hear is the lobby.


30 posted on 06/17/2007 4:30:39 PM PDT by oyez
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To: Sleeping Beauty
D you agree the Immigration Bill is going to pass the Senate?

I suspect it will and come election time when the Republicans who supported it come up for re-election, nobody will remember what they did to this country..........

TERM LIMITS IS THE ONLY CURE FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE GOP IN WASHINGTON!

31 posted on 06/17/2007 4:31:54 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

The media and government have a lot of little tricks up their sleeve. It’s simple propaganda. Tell the viewer that it will pass so the viewer loses the will to fight against it. When this “compromise” was first announced, they announced it as a done deal when no one had even looked at it.
It’s the same thing as the democrats repeated claims that the war in Iraq is lost.


32 posted on 06/17/2007 4:31:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Obie Wan

“......,it’s not like the Senate is populated by men and woman of principle and conviction, just a bunch of self serving politicians with no sense of right or wrong !!!”

It is? I’m shocked! Shocked I tell ya! Seriously, I just looked at (Alaska) Lisa Murkowski’s website and her view on the issue. I simply could not figure from that how she will vote in the end, but I am leaning toward she will vote in favor of it. It seems to me that many in the Senate will “against it” but in the end will vote for it and later try to convince us that it was the best they could do under the circumstances and they, (harumph) are privy to information that we just to not have and thus know what is best...yadda, yadda, yadda. I no longer live in Alaska, but I follow what goes on there. I am unfortunate enough to have Sen Kyl to be directly concerned about. Thye one thing the republican members are failing to realize is that this is not something that will blow over with the passage of time. The will have to answer for it to the voters the next time around. For well established (entrenched) senators like Kyl, from high population areas, voting them out may be difficult. In places like Alaska it is certainly doable. I can tell you having lived in Alaska from 1974 ‘til 2004 that there is nothing weirder than politics in Alaska and perhaps it is just Alaska being the kind of place it is, politically. Too long a subject to really explain here, but any Alaskan reading this will likely know just what I mean. Long winters do make politics a sport in some ways. And people are passionate about politics. And a smaller population makes it more difficult for politicians to hide. However, Sen. Ted Stevens hanging on there term after term has amazed me for years.


33 posted on 06/17/2007 4:34:10 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: cripplecreek
Tell the viewer that it will pass so the viewer loses the will to fight against it.

Exactly.

34 posted on 06/17/2007 4:35:13 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Old_Mil
You reminded me of a classic quote from H.L/ Mencken, "The American people get the government they deserve. Good and hard."

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Bar Fight in the Blue Ridge: The Battle for NC 11"

35 posted on 06/17/2007 4:38:07 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: cripplecreek

On the day of cloture Barnes was predicting it would pass overwhelmingly. I believe Rupert Murdoch is shilling for Bush on this and may have given instructions to keep things as pro-amnesty as possible.


36 posted on 06/17/2007 4:38:09 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Bogtrotter52

“I can tell you having lived in Alaska from 1974 ‘til 2004 that there is nothing weirder than politics in Alaska”

Don’t be too hard on Alaskan politics,I live in Massholechuetts and politics here isn’t just weird, it’s depressing !!!


37 posted on 06/17/2007 4:39:33 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Fast Track expires on June 30, 2007..

No amnesty, no more fast track (which got us CAFTA et. al.

38 posted on 06/17/2007 4:39:40 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Was it a live interview with General Petraeus? Was he in the studio or was it a remote?

I have my Senators and Representatives number and will call AGAIN tomorrow.


39 posted on 06/17/2007 4:41:45 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

So do I.

I don’t like it but that is the way things go.

We are abou to get royally screwed without any vasoline used on us.


40 posted on 06/17/2007 4:42:39 PM PDT by sport
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To: Shermy
Any Freeper’s opinion is miles more informed than Hume’s or anyone at Fox.

Sorry, you're wrong on that one. Rip O'Reilly, Geraldo, Greta and the rest of the crew as much as you like. But Fox News Sunday and Brit Hume's nightly news show are as good as it gets in broadcast journalism.

They might be wrong on how this will turn out, but odds are they're right. Only keeping the pressure on the Senate Republicans can possibly change the outcome.

41 posted on 06/17/2007 4:43:29 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Now I am more confident it won’t pass. They are pressuring the media because we have been effective.


42 posted on 06/17/2007 4:44:39 PM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: kalee

Glad you asked. It looked live. Here is the Petraeus transcript:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,283553,00.html


43 posted on 06/17/2007 4:46:10 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Obie Wan

“Don’t be too hard on Alaskan politics”

Oh I am not. Alaska politics and the sometimes weirdness of it was something I reveled in, and enjoyed. Alaskans tend to be involved in thier politics. More so then many other places I think. Having to deal with Mass politics you likely have a differant take on what constitutes “weird”. LOL! Having been born in Lynn and having family there as well as having been raised in NJ I can certainly understand the “depressing” referance. Keep up the fight though.


44 posted on 06/17/2007 4:48:39 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: clintonh8r

We needed some new senators anyway.


45 posted on 06/17/2007 4:51:07 PM PDT by realpatriot (Some spelling errers entionally included!)
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To: rolling_stone
Absolutely correct. You saw how they handle adversity! Pahackin’ Bush is out calling us racist and accusing us of trying to hurt the country. What a joke.

All Bush has accomplished in the past couple of weeks is to assure Jimmah Carter that he, at long last, will not be considered the worst president in U.S. history when he dies.

46 posted on 06/17/2007 4:52:25 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Sleeping Beauty

I say it will fail to pass.........but what do I know.

...... Just a SWAG !

Political suicide for any polidiot that votes for this. They create anarchy they are out of business as the only thing making them important and valid is the very constitution they continue to use as toilet paper these days........


47 posted on 06/17/2007 4:52:45 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: WashingtonSource
This is nonsense. Mitch McConnell is not sure it will pass. All these pundits are clueless.

Where did you hear that, may I ask? Or is he just *cautiously optimistic* like he was last time?

48 posted on 06/17/2007 4:53:25 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Shermy
How many illegals does Geraldo employ?

It must be a lot, considering his support for amnesty.

49 posted on 06/17/2007 4:55:48 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: Sleeping Beauty
No, it will not pass, we are going to keep calling and stop it.
50 posted on 06/17/2007 4:56:15 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.)
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