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Top scientist says biofuels are scam
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Posted on 06/10/2007 4:51:37 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Top scientist says biofuels are scam Jonathan Leake and Steven Swinford

THE government’s policy of promoting biofuels for transport will come under harsh attack this week from one of its senior science advisers.

Roland Clift will tell a seminar of the Royal Academy of Engineering that the plan to promote bioethanol and biodiesel produced from plants is a “scam”.

Clift, professor of environmental technology at Surrey University, sits on the scientific advisory council of Defra, David Miliband’s environment department.

He will tell the seminar that promoting the use of biofuels is likely to increase greenhouse gas emissions.

Clift’s comments will amount to a direct challenge to Miliband, who has published a strategy promoting biofuels. It coincides with a surge of anger among environmentalists over the weak pledges on climate change that emerged from last week’s G8 summit.

The audience on Thursday will also include Howard Dalton, Miliband’s chief scientist at Defra, who is expected to speak in defence of biofuels.

Clift said: “Biodiesel is a complete scam because in the tropics the growing demand is causing forests to be burnt to make way for palm oil and similar crops.

“We calculate that the land will need to grow biodiesel crops for 70-300 years to compensate for the CO2 emitted in forest destruction.”

Clift will also condemn plans to produce British biodiesel from rapeseed, pointing to research showing the crop generates copious amounts of nitrous oxide – an even more powerful global warming gas than CO2 The attack comes as the government increases its support for biofuels. Next year it will introduce a requirement for 3% of all fuel sold on UK forecourts to come from a renewable source.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arevolutionaryact; biofool; biofuel; biofuelisascam; climatechange; energy; environment; farming; govwatch
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He should be arrested for saying such things.....Where's the Climate Police?
1 posted on 06/10/2007 4:51:41 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
He will tell the seminar that promoting the use of biofuels is likely to increase greenhouse gas emissions.
Deniar!
2 posted on 06/10/2007 4:54:42 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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Top British Scientist Says Biofuels Are A Scam, Rainforests at Risk

From NewsBusters

3 posted on 06/10/2007 4:55:10 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Sub-Driver

the whacko veggies are probably laughing

that they made the price of beef go up.


4 posted on 06/10/2007 4:57:25 PM PDT by ken21 (tv: 1. sells products. 2. indoctrinates viewers into socialism.)
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And they eat their own too....
5 posted on 06/10/2007 5:00:01 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: Sub-Driver

6 posted on 06/10/2007 5:00:53 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I thought he was going to talk about the CO2 given off in te fermentation process - shouldn’t that be counted as part of the CO2 (now it’s cliche time!) “footprint” of ethanol and such?


7 posted on 06/10/2007 5:01:17 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD -"What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: Redbob

“I thought he was going to talk about the CO2 given off in te fermentation process - shouldn’t that be counted as part of the CO2 (now it’s cliche time!) “footprint” of ethanol and such?”

And I thought that Jack Daniels, Smirnoff, et al should be taking the lead in ethanol fuels. You’d think they know how to do this kinda thing....


8 posted on 06/10/2007 5:06:07 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Sub-Driver

“Roland Clift will tell a seminar of the Royal Academy of Engineering that the plan to promote bioethanol and biodiesel produced from plants is a “scam”.”

Corn growers are deeply saddened.


9 posted on 06/10/2007 5:06:09 PM PDT by Roccus (People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient....then repent.)
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To: Sub-Driver

We need to go back to hunting whales as a source for fuel.


10 posted on 06/10/2007 5:07:09 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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If all the corn in the United States were used for ethanol production, it would supply about 15% of the nation’s gasoline needs and we would have very little to eat.


11 posted on 06/10/2007 5:08:31 PM PDT by StACase
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I keep waiting for one of them to say, “Are you of the Body? You’re not of the Body!”


12 posted on 06/10/2007 5:11:47 PM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: Sub-Driver
The more I think about, the stupider the idea becomes.
13 posted on 06/10/2007 5:13:23 PM PDT by Abd al-Rahiim
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The more I think about it, the stupider the idea becomes.
14 posted on 06/10/2007 5:13:31 PM PDT by Abd al-Rahiim
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To: Sub-Driver

Well of course they’re a scam! Just like HOV, or carpool lanes which only work as long as no more than 3% of the population actually uses them ;’}


15 posted on 06/10/2007 5:19:19 PM PDT by rockrr (09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0)
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To: StACase

Have you been routing with the piggies?


16 posted on 06/10/2007 5:21:54 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Sub-Driver

BioDiesel made from algae grown at powerplants where the algae are “fed” the CO2 output from power generation seems to make sense to me.


17 posted on 06/10/2007 5:22:24 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Redbob
Give up the leavened bread brother, it generates CO2.
18 posted on 06/10/2007 5:23:53 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Sub-Driver

read again, it sounds like he is of the “force them all into busses” crowd.


19 posted on 06/10/2007 5:30:26 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Asclepius

Actually, you misspelled it.

It’s “denier”.

But yes, you’re absolutely right. Anybody who questions any non-proven scientific, pseudo-scientific, quasi-scientific, or out-and-out non-scientific assertion — as long as the assertion is made by the High Priests of the Global Church of Environmental Correctness — are automatically “deniers”.

You don’t get to question pronouncements handed down by Environmentalists.

That goes without saying.


20 posted on 06/10/2007 5:34:51 PM PDT by samtheman
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