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Al-Qaeda spark for an Iran-US fire
atimes ^ | 6/7/07 | By Gareth Porter

Posted on 06/10/2007 5:17:05 AM PDT by Flavius

WASHINGTON - After revelations of a US administration policy to hold Iran responsible for any al-Qaeda attack on the United States that could be portrayed as planned on Iranian soil, former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski warned last week that Washington might use such an incident as a pretext to bomb Iran.

Brzezinski, the national security adviser to president Jimmy Carter from 1977 through 1980 and the most senior Democratic Party figure on national-security policy, told a private meeting sponsored by the non-partisan Committee for the Republic in

Washington on May 30 that an al-Qaeda terrorist attack in the US intended to provoke war between the United States and Iran was a possibility that must be taken seriously, and that the administration of President George W Bush might accuse Iran of responsibility for such an attack and use it to justify carrying out an attack on Iran.

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KEYWORDS: alqueda; iran; iraq; usa
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1 posted on 06/10/2007 5:17:07 AM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Brzezinski and Carter CREATED the Iranian terrorists.
Like parents, they want to PROTECT their Iranian terrorists.


2 posted on 06/10/2007 5:20:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis
Brzezinski and Carter CREATED the Iranian terrorists. Like parents, they want to PROTECT their Iranian terrorists.

Mega dittos!

3 posted on 06/10/2007 5:23:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Flavius
Brzezinski, the national security adviser to president Jimmy Carter from 1977 through 1980 and the most senior Democratic Party figure on national-security policy....

This should tell everyone that the Dems cannot be trusted with foreign policy.

4 posted on 06/10/2007 5:23:43 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Flavius

So, if Iran plans attacks on us daily, we’re supposed to just take it! Great strategy!

Since when killing our soldiers is only a “pretext”?


5 posted on 06/10/2007 5:23:52 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: Flavius

So ZB is doing Iran’s dirty work. Let’s see, if we get nuked, the rest of the world will A.— dance in the streets and say we deserved it. B.— demand that we disarm and apologize, and pay Iran/NK/Whomever reparations, plus rebuild the third world and provide jobs/healthcare/everything for anyone breathing. Not going to happen.


6 posted on 06/10/2007 5:24:09 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Flavius

Um, al-Qaeda and Iran are pretty much mortal enemies...


7 posted on 06/10/2007 5:24:17 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB

As for al-Qaeda and Iran being mortal enemies, times change and there’s that old saying, ‘the enemy of my enemy is my best friend’.


8 posted on 06/10/2007 5:27:34 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Flavius
The tacit alliance between al Qaeda, Iran, and the Democratic Party is strong. Here we have Brzezinski, who along with the Jimmy Carter (the worst president and ex-president in American history) assured the rise of a theorcrac in Iran (replacing an ally in the Shah), the biggest state supporter of terror, now Brezinski is making a cynical and preemptive attack on the US to try to prevent any retaliation against Iran if it assists al Qaeda in an attack on the US. It’s mindlessly pro-Iran; it’s also a full measure of how many partisan Democrats would rather help Iran and al Qaeda in the War on Terror than their own nation. It’s why I say they’re more interested in the War on Bush than in the War on Terror. They're not just apologists for dictators anymore; they're pre-emptive apologists for them.
9 posted on 06/10/2007 5:28:05 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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To: DB

” Um, al-Qaeda and Iran are pretty much mortal enemies... “

Myth......

(Mostly promulgated by the ‘no real threat’ crowd...)


10 posted on 06/10/2007 5:29:19 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: DB
They’re working together in many areas, but especially in Iraq. We know that al Qaeda is receiving weapons and explosives from Iran. Also, for along time many al Qaeda operatives have received safe passage and safe haven in Iran, including two of bin Laden’s sons. Likewise, we know that Iran is now helping the Taliban in Afghanistan even though they were once mortal enemies. Iran has elected to use anyone who can thwart our efforts in the neighboring countries to erode our will on the cheap.
11 posted on 06/10/2007 5:31:25 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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To: SJackson; jveritas; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; knighthawk; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Steel Wolf; ...

Ping.


12 posted on 06/10/2007 5:32:55 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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To: DB
Um, al-Qaeda and Iran are pretty much mortal enemies...

So any victory by al-Qaeda in Iraq or anywhere else is disturbing and upsetting to Iran? I think not. What I do think is that many of these ex-CIA agents who line up to discredit the current Administration are living in the past. After all, many of these same folk got many, many things dead wrong over the past 20 years.

13 posted on 06/10/2007 5:33:04 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; RasterMaster; sono; holdonnow

ping


14 posted on 06/10/2007 5:34:14 AM PDT by AliVeritas
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To: AliVeritas

Well mabey they could root for our side , once in a while


15 posted on 06/10/2007 5:41:14 AM PDT by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: DB
Your thinking is so 90s.

The Iranians are arming EVERYONE in the area.

Both Sunni and Shiite in Iraq, Sadr’s boys, and the remnants of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

We’ve intercepted the same exact materials (including those AP IED’s) being transported by the Quds forces at least a dozen times. The most recent was just a few days ago, caught them RED HANDED sending stuff into Afghanistan.

I swear... some people don’t seem to ‘get’ the concept of a proxy war, and what aspects would make a good ‘proxy’ (hint: something about this asinine dogma out there that “they’d NEVER work together” is part of it)

16 posted on 06/10/2007 5:47:15 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: DB

Umm, DB dude, is the Google on you computer broken?

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http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/05/22/alqaeda.iran/

Iran admits holding al Qaeda operatives
Sunday, May 25, 2003 Posted: 10:50 AM EDT (1450 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Iranian officials Thursday told a U.N. representative that Iran has several unnamed al Qaeda operatives in custody, CNN has learned.

The acknowledgment comes as Washington has intensified its accusations that al Qaeda terrorists are inside Iran — something Tehran had previously denied.

.....”We know al Qaeda individuals are inside Iran,” this official said. “But what is the definition of custody? If they are in Iran, free to plan and direct attacks, such as the Saudi bombings, and are able to receive visitors and updates and other information, that is not custody. That is safe haven.”

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/14/wiran214.xml

Iran has always maintained close relations with al-Qa’eda, even though the Shia Muslim state is known to have many ideological and strategic differences with the terror group’s Sunni leadership.

Western intelligence officials now believe that Iran is trying to cultivate a new generation of al-Qa’eda leaders who will be prepared to work closely with Teheran when they eventually take control

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http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,664967,00.html

9/11 Commission Finds Ties Between al-Qaeda and Iran
Friday, Jul. 16, 2004 By ADAM ZAGORIN AND JOE KLEIN Article ToolsPrintEmailReprints Next week’s much anticipated final report by a bipartisan commission on the origins of the 9/11 attacks will contain new evidence of contacts between al-Qaeda and Iran—just weeks after the Administration has come under fire for overstating its claims of contacts between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.

A senior U.S. official told TIME that the Commission has uncovered evidence suggesting that between eight and ten of the 14 “muscle” hijackers—that is, those involved in gaining control of the four 9/11 aircraft and subduing the crew and passengers—passed through Iran in the period from October 2000 to February 2001. Sources also tell TIME that Commission investigators found that Iran had a history of allowing al-Qaeda members to enter and exit Iran across the Afghan border. This practice dated back to October 2000, with Iranian officials issuing specific instructions to their border guards—in some cases not to put stamps in the passports of al-Qaeda personnel—and otherwise not harass them and to facilitate their travel across the frontier. The report does not, however, offer evidence that Iran was aware of the plans for the 9/11 attacks

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Al-Qaida finds safe haven in Iran
But former leaders reportedly under house arrest
Suleiman Abu Ghaith, once a spokesman for bin Laden, is believed to be living Iran. Gaith and other former al-Qaida leaders, fled to Iran after the U.S. military invaded Afghanistan in the fall of 2001.
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Al-Qaida finds safe haven in Iran
But former leaders reportedly under house arrest

Somewhere north of Tehran, living perhaps in villas near the town of Chalous on the Caspian Sea coast, are between 20 and 25 of al-Qaida’s former leaders, along with two of Osama bin Laden’s sons.

Men such as Saif al-Adel, the former military commander of al-Qaida, and Suleiman Abu Ghaith, the bespectacled bin Laden spokesman, are not in hiding but rather in the care — or custody — of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard.

“They are under virtual house arrest,” not able to do much of anything, said one senior U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

How they got there and what will happen to them is one of the more intriguing stories of the war on terror, one that is filled with secret movements, stolen communications and a failed attempt at a prisoner exchange involving Iranian dissidents.


17 posted on 06/10/2007 5:53:18 AM PDT by sgtyork (Liberalism worthy of the name emphasizes freedom of the individual, democracy and the rule of law.)
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To: DB

Shiite and Sunni groups usually hate each other. But Iran and Al Qaeda are working together based on the “enemy of my enemy is my friend” principle.

Basically they hate Americans and Jews far more than they hate each other. It is a temporary arrangement as violent muslims are bound to start killing each other at some point.


18 posted on 06/10/2007 6:34:28 AM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: AliVeritas

I say we go straight to the source - Bomb Bomb Bomb- Bomb Bomb Iran.


19 posted on 06/10/2007 6:38:05 AM PDT by sono (Note to W: Pardon Scooter NOW!)
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To: elhombrelibre

As angry as I am with President Bush these days... catah... well President Bush just does not come close to the inept and anti-American traitor that is jimmah catah and anyone that served in his horrid administration.

zbiggy has always been a commie lovin’ muzzie hugger! As wrong as President Bush is on immigration and the “new tone”... NOT even close!

LLS


20 posted on 06/10/2007 6:40:34 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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