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(Krauthammer) The Immigration Reform Monster
Town Hall ^ | June 1, 2007 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 06/01/2007 11:45:12 AM PDT by bd476

Edited on 06/01/2007 2:31:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON -- Beware legislative behemoths. Beware "comprehensive immigration reform." Any bill that is 380 pages long is bound to have nooks and crannies reflecting private deals, quiet paybacks and ad hoc arrangements that you often don't learn about until it's too late.

The main provisions of the immigration reform monster are well known. But how many knew, before reading last Saturday's Washington Post, that if Einstein were trying to get a green card, he would have to get in line with Argentine plumbers and Taiwanese accountants to qualify under the new "point system" that gives credit for such things as English proficiency and reliable work history? Good thing Albert was a patent office clerk, and that grooming isn't part of the new point system.

Until now we've had a special category for highly skilled, world-renowned and indispensable talent. Great musicians, athletes and high-tech managers come in today under the EB-1 visa. This apparently is going to be abolished in the name of an idiotic egalitarianism.

I suspect this provision is a kind of apology for one of the few very good ideas in the bill -- taking skill, education and English proficiency into account rather just family ties, and thus cutting back on a chain migration system in which the Yemeni laborer can bring over an entire clan while the engineers and teachers desperate to get here languish in the old country.

Excerpt http://www.townhall.com/columnists/CharlesKrauthammer/2007/06/01/the_immigration_reform_monster


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigration
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A word not heard in the National Spelling Bee:

*mendacity

1. the condition of being mendacious; untruthfulness.

2. A lie; a falsehood.

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1 posted on 06/01/2007 11:45:15 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476
A word not heard in the National Spelling Bee: *mendacity

Only by Sherlock Holmes...

When "the Kraut" speaks, people should listen.

2 posted on 06/01/2007 11:48:01 AM PDT by evad
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To: evad
When "the Kraut" speaks, people should listen.

Except on the matter of the life and death of unborn American citizens.
3 posted on 06/01/2007 11:51:32 AM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: bd476
"Any bill that is 380 pages long is bound to have nooks and crannies reflecting private deals, quiet paybacks and ad hoc arrangements that you often don't learn about until it's too late."

Exactly. That's why the bill does not advocate building one long wall or fence. By adding electronic surveillance and such they can spread the tax payer funded money around to all the special interests.

4 posted on 06/01/2007 11:55:05 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Good ("A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud)
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To: elizabetty

At least Krauthammer and Noonan get it. This unfortunate position Bush has put us in will at least separate us from our enemies,,yes, I said enemies. This is the flash point.


5 posted on 06/01/2007 11:55:50 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: samadams2000

We need to riot.


6 posted on 06/01/2007 11:57:49 AM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: elizabetty

Someone important..make the call!


7 posted on 06/01/2007 12:00:43 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: samadams2000
At least Krauthammer and Noonan get it.

Noonan yes, Krauthammer seems a bit hesitant. At the end of the editorial Krauthammer does think the bill can be "fixed" with strong border control component. I disagree with him on that point. This bill needs to be KILLED. Border Control must be first - a wall must be constructed from across the entire border.

8 posted on 06/01/2007 12:06:49 PM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: bd476
I think no immigration reform bills should be considered until one year after we can verify that all our borders are completely secure.

Before we secure our borders there is no point in talking about immigration.

9 posted on 06/01/2007 12:09:55 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Where do we go from here?)
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To: evad
That's true, evad.

10 posted on 06/01/2007 12:18:38 PM PDT by bd476
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To: Freedom_Is_Good
Good point, Freedom_Is_Good.

11 posted on 06/01/2007 12:22:28 PM PDT by bd476
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To: elizabetty; All

” A Rasmussen poll had shown that 72 percent of Americans thought border enforcement and reducing illegal immigration to be very important. Only 29 percent thought legalization to be very important. Indeed, when a different question in the Times poll — one that did not make the front page — asked respondents if they wanted to see illegal immigrants prosecuted and deported, 69 percent said yes.”

There you are!!!!


12 posted on 06/01/2007 12:33:32 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: oldbrowser

I almost think that if we were to insert in this bill something like, “If the President (or Cabinet official) certifies that ‘the borders are now secure’ and 60% (or 66%) of both houses of Congress agree with that certification, the remainder of this bill will go into effect.”, I would be willing to support this attempt. I don’t see that happening.

Therefore we need several individual, smaller, more comprehensible bills:

SECURE THE BORDER FIRST!

DEMAND SECURE ID for ALL employment, and that ALL employers supply the IRS with those credentials for any income deductions.

STOP allowing benefits and handouts of ANY type for anyone who doesn’t have SECURE ID and who is not legal. Stop federal kickbacks to states and cities that choose to do otherwise.

Give hospitals and emergency services explit permission to deny service to illegals and shield them from lawsuits from illegals, or those unable to prove their legal status.

PENALIZE all who are not in compliance, including such as apple and lettuce growers, and individuals hiring illegals for yard work or nanny work.

After this, I’ll be happy to entertain the “guest worker” notion.


13 posted on 06/01/2007 12:35:42 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: oldbrowser; Brad's Gramma; BurbankKarl; The Spirit Of Allegiance
oldbrowser wrote: "I think no immigration reform bills should be considered until one year after we can verify that all our borders are completely secure.

Before we secure our borders there is no point in talking about immigration."


Agree but unfortunately among conservatives there's indifference to securing our borders. It's as if they are shrugging their shoulders over enforcing our current immigration laws, and whether or not to allow the millions of illegal immigrants to remain here.

Until the indifferent conservatives in unaffected States have the negative impacts of illegal immigration set upon their doorsteps, until their local emergency rooms overflow, until their local crime rates rise, until their local schools are affected, until their local jails overflow with illegal immigrants, it looks like the doors will remain wide open.

14 posted on 06/01/2007 12:38:03 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

Hopefully you are directing this word to the bill rather than Krauthammer.


15 posted on 06/01/2007 12:49:28 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: bd476

Big Daddy knows all about that word!


16 posted on 06/01/2007 12:52:20 PM PDT by jobim
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To: bd476

bookmark


17 posted on 06/01/2007 12:52:54 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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Chain migration—that’s very scary.


18 posted on 06/01/2007 1:02:50 PM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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To: oneamericanvoice
oneamericanvoice wrote: "Hopefully you are directing this word to the bill rather than Krauthammer."



Apparently you did not read Mr. Krauthammer's editorial before you posted the above.

Also, when I first posted this, I had placed a large * asterisk next to the word mendacity which was within Mr. Krauthammer's editorial.

However, Mods excerpted the editorial after I posted it, and apparently the very large * asterisk was removed.

If you have time, it would be well worth your effort to read the article so that you don't miss all of the other fine points raised by Mr. Krauthammer.

19 posted on 06/01/2007 1:21:34 PM PDT by bd476
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To: AFPhys

>>I almost think that if we were to insert in this bill something like, “If the President (or Cabinet official) certifies that ‘the borders are now secure’ and 60% (or 66%) of both houses of Congress agree with that certification, the remainder of this bill will go into effect.”, I would be willing to support this attempt. I don’t see that happening.<<

I don’t think many of us would trust the President, or DHS (lied under oath about Ramos/Compean), or 60% of the Senate. There would have to be an independent, truly nonbiased committee.


20 posted on 06/01/2007 4:47:49 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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