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Meteorologist Likens Fear of Global Warming to 'Religious Belief'
Center for the Defense of Free Enterprise ^ | DDecember 2, 2004 | Marc Morano

Posted on 05/26/2007 8:24:56 AM PDT by Fiji Hill

Meteorologist Likens Fear of Global Warming to 'Religious Belief'

By Marc Morano
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
December 02, 2004

Washington (CNSNews.com) - An MIT meteorologist Wednesday dismissed alarmist fears about human induced global warming as nothing more than 'religious beliefs.'

"Do you believe in global warming? That is a religious question. So is the second part: Are you a skeptic or a believer?" said Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor Richard Lindzen, in a speech to about 100 people at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.

"Essentially if whatever you are told is alleged to be supported by 'all scientists,' you don't have to understand [the issue] anymore. You simply go back to treating it as a matter of religious belief," Lindzen said. His speech was titled, "Climate Alarmism: The Misuse of 'Science'" and was sponsored by the free market George C. Marshall Institute. Lindzen is a professor at MIT's Department of Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences.

Once a person becomes a believer of global warming, "you never have to defend this belief except to claim that you are supported by all scientists -- except for a handful of corrupted heretics," Lindzen added.

According to Lindzen, climate "alarmists" have been trying to push the idea that there is scientific consensus on dire climate change.

"With respect to science, the assumption behind the [alarmist] consensus is science is the source of authority and that authority increases with the number of scientists [who agree.] But science is not primarily a source of authority. It is a particularly effective approach of inquiry and analysis. Skepticism is essential to science -- consensus is foreign," Lindzen said.

Alarmist predictions of more hurricanes, the catastrophic rise in sea levels, the melting of the global poles and even the plunge into another ice age are not scientifically supported, Lindzen said.

"It leads to a situation where advocates want us to be afraid, when there is no basis for alarm. In response to the fear, they want us to do what they want," Lindzen said.

Recent reports of a melting polar ice cap were dismissed by Lindzen as an example of the media taking advantage of the public's "scientific illiteracy."

"The thing you have to remember about the Arctic is that it is an extremely variable part of the world," Lindzen said. "Although there is melting going [on] now, there has been a lot of melting that went on in the [19]30s and then there was freezing. So by isolating a section ... they are essentially taking people's ignorance of the past," he added.

'Repetition makes people believe'

The climate change debate has become corrupted by politics, the media and money, according to Lindzen.

"It's a sad story, where you have scientists making meaningless or ambiguous statements [about climate change]. They are then taken by advocates to the media who translate the statements into alarmist declarations. You then have politicians who respond to all of this by giving scientists more money," Lindzen said.

"Agreement on anything is taken to infer agreement on everything. So if you make a statement that you agree that CO2 (carbon dioxide) is a greenhouse gas, you agree that the world is coming to an end," he added.

"There can be little doubt that the language used to convey alarm has been sloppy at best," Lindzen said, citing Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbles and his famous observation that even a lie will be believed if enough people repeat it. "There is little question that repetition makes people believe things [for] which there may be no basis," Lindzen said.

He believes the key to improving the science of climate change lies in altering the way scientists are funded.

'Alarm is the aim'

"The research and support for research depends on the alarm," Lindzen told CNSNews.com following his speech. "The research itself often is very good, but by the time it gets through the filter of environmental advocates and the press innocent things begin to sound just as though they are the end of the world.

"The argument is no longer what models are correct -- they are not -- but rather whether their results are at all possible. One can rarely prove something to be impossible," he explained.

Lindzen said scientists must be allowed to conclude that 'we don't have a problem." And if the answer turns out to be 'we don't have a problem,' we have to figure out a better reward than cutting off people's funding. It's as simple as that," he said.

The only consensus that Lindzen said exists on the issue of climate change is the impact of the Kyoto Protocol, the international treaty to limit greenhouse gases, which the U.S. does not support.

Kyoto itself will have no discernible effect on global warming regardless of what one believes about climate change," Lindzen said.

"Claims to the contrary generally assume Kyoto is only the beginning of an ever more restrictive regime. However this is hardly ever mentioned," he added.

The Kyoto Protocol, which Russia recently ratified, aims to reduce the emission of greenhouse gases to 1990 levels by the year 2010. But Lindzen claims global warming proponents ultimately want to see a 60 to 80 percent reduction in greenhouse gasses from the 1990 levels. Such reductions would be economically disastrous, he said.

"If you are hearing Kyoto will cost billions and trillions," then a further reduction will ultimately result in "a shutdown" of the economy, Lindzen said.



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To: Fiji Hill

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21 posted on 05/26/2007 9:30:28 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: raftguide
Don’t forget, Greenland was a once a sunny clime

Had it been discovered today, the island would most certainly not have been named "Greenland."

22 posted on 05/26/2007 9:49:11 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: raftguide

I finally saw Apocalypto.

The sacrifice scene with the Eclipse came to mind to me when I was reading this.


23 posted on 05/26/2007 9:55:48 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Peace is not the highest goal - freedom is. -LachlanMinnesota)
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To: Fiji Hill
Earlier this week when the Vermont Senate/House began salivating AGAIN over the so-called global warming crap, I sent the e-mail below to the Senate and House leaders (both Dems). I've pasted the info below along with a link to Prof. Lindzen's comments on the topic in 1992!!!!!! ______________________________________________________

Senator.....you and Ms. Symington ought to consider renaming your group the "Chicken Little" party.

Stop wasting your time and our money on the non-issue of so-called global warming.

For every expert you find, I'll find ten who say the issue is media-liberal hype!

JFD ________________________________________________________

From: "Peter Shumlin" To: "JimJean" Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Warming

I have studied this issue a great deal and I wholeheartedly disagree with you. The scientific consensus has been building for years. Do you consider the Union of Concerned Scientists and the United Nations promulgators of liberal media-hype?

I guess I'm lost on trying to convince you since you seem to have made up your mind. Even George W. Bush is coming around. Have you seen Al Gore's movie? (Note: Can you believe this guy???)

I will continue to act on the assumption that the Earth is heating up due to our habit of burning ancient carbon and releasing it into the atmosphere. my best, Peter _________________________________________________________

Pay money to promote Al Gore's next attempt to get elected to something? I don't think so.

I, too, have studied this issue at some length....and it did not involve bringing someone into the State House whose bias was already established.

Perhaps you might consider listening to Richard Lindzen, the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at MIT.

He has some unquestionble academic credentials.

Prof

JFD

24 posted on 05/26/2007 10:02:00 AM PDT by JimVT (Oh, the days of the Kerry dancing, Oh, the ring of the piper's tune)
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To: Fiji Hill

Lindzen common sense ping


25 posted on 05/26/2007 10:12:27 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: PISANO; Cicero
The Holy Trinity of the LEFTs RELIGIOUS TENETS are an Omnipotent Government, Abortion and Global Warming.

I think I would describe the LEFT’s RELIGIOUS TENETS as Omnipotent Government, Universal Dependency, and a Two Tiered Society (Serfs and Political Elite)

Every thing else are merely tools to keep the faithful within the fold.

26 posted on 05/26/2007 10:57:42 AM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: OESY

I really like this logic. It needs to be someone’s FR tagline.


27 posted on 05/26/2007 11:18:06 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: JimVT
Do you consider the Union of Concerned Scientists and the United Nations promulgators of liberal media-hype?

Is he kidding about the UCS? Click here, and select Union of Concerned Scientists from the "Activist Groups" dropdown. The UCS is to the environmental movement as the Alan Guttmacher Institute is to Planned Parenthood. It exists to provide scientific/scholarly "cover" to the movement with which it is associated.

28 posted on 05/26/2007 11:32:50 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: PISANO
The Holy Trinity of the LEFTs RELIGIOUS TENETS are an Omnipotent Government, Abortion and Global Warming.
Equivalent to the FATHER, SON and HOLY SPIRIT.

It may be a quibble but I don't see abortion as a personification of anything. Ie "Big Government = Father" and "Global Warming = Holy Spirit". To me abortion seems to be more of a liberal anti-sacrament. The murder of your own children to "free up" your life style. By this grizzly parody of the body & blood of Christianity, liberals aspire to promote themselves to the "Liberals = Son" rank of the Trinity.

Regards,
GtG

29 posted on 05/26/2007 12:12:20 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Hey, thanks.....that is a great site.

I sent the item to the Sen.

FWIW

30 posted on 05/26/2007 12:37:03 PM PDT by JimVT (Oh, the days of the Kerry dancing, Oh, the ring of the piper's tune)
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To: Fiji Hill

Well, it’s about friggin’ time that someone from my alma mater made some sense. I’ve been disgusted with the oh-so-cool leftism emanating from The Institue, as we used to call it, as it should know better.

Corrupted as it has been in recent years by feminism, multiculturalism and hyper-hip leftism, it’s a wonder if any of the students realize that Reality is not subject to fashionable stupidity. This guy is a breath of fresh air - but he’s only doing what true science demands from all the rest of the cowards that populate institutes of the Hard Sciences.


31 posted on 05/26/2007 12:45:53 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
You have a point, I only pointed out the Trinity members to equate the LEFT's big 3, with NO specific member of the Trinity being equated to abortion.

I should have known that FR members would need no such references.

32 posted on 05/26/2007 12:48:14 PM PDT by PISANO (There is NO security & there can be none as long as there are suicide bombers!!)
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To: Fiji Hill
As a +12 er, a carbon positive person, it occurred to me as I was driving in the Yukon wilds that perhaps a very large and certainly overlooked carbon emissions source was beer.

Plain ordinary beer emits a large volume of carbon dioxide with every poptop. There is also a considerable volume that is consumed by swallowing. It is not gone however, every molecule is released into the atmosphere.

Then, lest I rouse the wrath of beer drinkers, it occurred to me that the same was true of Coke and Pepsi drinkers.

In summary, to right the carbon deficit wrongs of America and the world, rather than disrupt our energy systems, we should place a ban on all carbonated beverages.

Budweiser and coke, Miller and Pepsi...... they are the bad guys.

33 posted on 05/26/2007 1:06:03 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . It's spit on a Democrat weekend)
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To: Publius6961

“There is no excuse for the abysmal ignorance of presumed adults, in elementary science “

Thank our publik screwels- “stretch that condom to cover the cucumber” and you’ve now mastered public health, botany and physics!/s;)


34 posted on 05/26/2007 1:39:22 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: JimVT
Do you consider the Union of Concerned Scientists and the United Nations promulgators of liberal media-hype?

LOL! There's NO question! Who is this loon you've been writing to?

35 posted on 05/26/2007 3:45:30 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: raftguide
Throughout human history, persons who have discovered a natural truth—such as the moon’s eclipse cycle for their locale—have used that information to gain political sway over the uninformed masses. It is no less a human frailty today. Al Gore learned that the world was naturally warming and is using that natural truth to gain political sway over the masses.

Well said, and worth repeating.

36 posted on 05/28/2007 2:45:20 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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