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Why U.S. doesn't stop tainted food from China
san jose mercury ^ | 5/20/07 | by Rick Weiss

Posted on 05/20/2007 4:55:44 AM PDT by Flavius

WASHINGTON - Dried apples preserved with a cancer-causing chemical. Frozen catfish laden with banned antibiotics. Scallops and sardines coated with putrefying bacteria. Mushrooms laced with illegal pesticides.

These were among the 107 food imports from China the Food and Drug Administration detained at U.S. ports just last month, agency documents reveal, along with more than 1,000 shipments of tainted Chinese dietary supplements, toxic Chinese cosmetics and counterfeit Chinese medicines.

For years, U.S. inspection records show, China has flooded the United States with foods unfit for human consumption. And for years, FDA inspectors have simply returned to Chinese importers the small portion of those products they caught - many of which turned up at U.S. borders again, making a second or third attempt at entry.

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1 posted on 05/20/2007 4:55:45 AM PDT by Flavius
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To: mom4kittys; Arizona Carolyn

how is this not

a>) act of war

b.) terrorism

c.) why isn’t all trade with china stopped today

oh money oh ok, 30 pieces of silver is what you can get a lot of stuff for


2 posted on 05/20/2007 4:56:45 AM PDT by Flavius ("Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: Flavius

Looks like food made in China gets amnesty too.


3 posted on 05/20/2007 4:58:44 AM PDT by TADSLOS (W.T. Sherman had it right.)
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To: Flavius
El Presidente Bush's loyalties and close affiliations in this matter:
Mexico ~ Saudia Arabia > China > DNC > La Raza ~ Illegal Aliens > Fatah > Hamas >>> His loyal conservative backers who have been screwed every way imaginable
4 posted on 05/20/2007 4:58:56 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Flavius

Very good article by Rick Weiss. Thanks for posting.


5 posted on 05/20/2007 5:01:12 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Flavius

Not very comforting is it?


6 posted on 05/20/2007 5:09:21 AM PDT by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: Flavius

Coming to stores near you!


7 posted on 05/20/2007 5:12:05 AM PDT by jch10
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To: Flavius

FR *bookmark*


8 posted on 05/20/2007 5:13:54 AM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: Diogenesis
Makes you feel the term ‘tool’ a little more literal doesn’t it?
9 posted on 05/20/2007 5:15:57 AM PDT by poobear (Capitalism is judged by its flaws and worst examples, Socialism by promises and good intentions)
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To: Flavius

I just emailed this article to my local supermarket and asked for their China food policy. Will be interesting to see their response if any.


10 posted on 05/20/2007 5:16:35 AM PDT by gotribe ( I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution... - Grover Cleveland.)
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To: Flavius

So the next qustion is, how can we determine mushrooms came from China? Mushroom packages tell us two things: The word “mushroom” and perhaps the address of the packer. And bulk mushrooms in the bin aren’t labelled. I avoid foodstuff where the package says “...in China.” Looks like the rest of the food we eat is a crapshot - sometimes we get poisoned, sometimes we don’t.

This is a national security issue and one of the few areas where I support a vigilant and intrusive federal inspection bureaucracy. Any poison food we find from China - and anywhere else - should be loaded on a C-130 and dumped on that nation’s capital.


11 posted on 05/20/2007 5:18:49 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Give Hillary a 50˘ coupon for Betty Crocker's devils food mix & tell her to go home and bake a cake)
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To: Flavius
That article is an excellent find.

We should cease all normal trade with Red China immediately.

Our politicians may have been gulled, but there is no reason that we need to risk our families' health any longer. It is clear from that article that it is impossible without a comprehensive ban on all food products from China to protect our families.

12 posted on 05/20/2007 5:19:07 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: jch10
Coming to stores near you!

It's already in stores near you.

13 posted on 05/20/2007 5:20:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: snowsislander
yes and pretty soon what you just said will be hate speech
14 posted on 05/20/2007 5:21:14 AM PDT by Flavius ("Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: Flavius

Why didn’t Sadaam just get deadly chemicals and export them laced in food? He could have gone on forever, with no more than an occasional bureaucratic complaint.


15 posted on 05/20/2007 5:24:57 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: All

I find it absurd any food products, additives or otherwise are shipped to the USA from China. We not only can take care of our food needs but the needs of others. I think if there are any foods or additives in our food from China, that fact should be clearly indicated on the packaging. Is beyond bizarre that Duncan Hunter is labeled a protectionist just because he demands a fair shake from these commies. When we are being possibly poisoned, and those responsible for our safety look the other way, protection seems to be just what we need.


16 posted on 05/20/2007 5:25:52 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Just wait till the Pretendicans have to debate, Hunter in '08)
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To: BlackVeil

yes he could have been a favorite nation partner


17 posted on 05/20/2007 5:26:27 AM PDT by Flavius ("Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: Flavius
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

NO cheers, unfortunately.

18 posted on 05/20/2007 5:27:37 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Flavius

bump for later reading


19 posted on 05/20/2007 5:29:28 AM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: Flavius

Since the FDA is not doing its job, it is up to us to look after ourselves.

Don’t buy any food products one suspects comes from China or the Far East in general.

We the people can put a crimp in their food exports to us by leaving the products to rot on the local supermarket shelves/freezers.

I have not set foot in Chinese restaurant since this scandal broke and don’t plan to again, at least not for a long, long time. They also can go belly-up.


20 posted on 05/20/2007 5:32:20 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Flavius
See this FR thread as well. It's not just pet food anymore.

Poisoned Toothpaste Possibly from China
THE REGISTER GUARD ^ | Saturday, May 19, 2007 | By Walt Bogdanich and Renwick McLean

21 posted on 05/20/2007 5:32:26 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns don't kill people. None of my guns ever left the house at night and killed anyone.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I agree, but how is one to know? You can’t protect yourself and your family with suspicion. We have a right to know what we are buying, food or otherwise. The congress critters need to understand we aren’t going to stand for this absurdity. It angers me to no end when I check a label or product, and see; Origin: USA or Imported. Well, duh, I didn’t think it came from Fairyland, thanks for the 411, Captain Obvious.


22 posted on 05/20/2007 5:40:55 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Just wait till the Pretendicans have to debate, Hunter in '08)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Don’t buy any food products one suspects comes from China or the Far East in general.

As long as I reasonably sure that a food product is actually from Japan (the Chinese apparently also fake those, so it pays to be careful), I am willing to buy it.

(I have to say with natto, though, it is kind of hard to distinguish its normal state from that of advanced decay. ;-)

23 posted on 05/20/2007 5:41:16 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Flavius
One day Tammy Bruce was subbing for Laura Ingrahm on her radio show, and a guy called in stating that he didn't like the way Chinese did business, since they were a fascist (economic) state, where the ONLY thing that mattered to the company, i.e. the country, was profit. More profit meant more power for the country. That's all that mattered. He then went on to say that he was an importer, and that while he didn't like it, he had no choice but to deal with the Chinese. At that point, Tammy just ripped into this guy, stating flat out that by dealing with the Chinese, he was no better than they, and that he was helping them in their goals.

She was right. There's NO reason that any American company should have to import this sort of thing, especially into our food supply! There are reports coming in from all over the world about people dying due to the use of Chinese glycerin in medicines that turned out to by ethylene glycol. And we all know about the contaminated wheat gluten that wound up in pet food, as well as food for animals in OUR food supply! It's sheer greed, but more importantly, it's greed AT THE EXPENSE of human decency. At what point do we say, "you know, I'm going to spend an extra $10 on this product, because they don't use slave labor." Or "I don't think that I want those imported vegetables, because they fertilize them with human waste, and that's just not a good thing."

We are fully capable of supplying ourselves with what we want and need, all we need is the will to do so. Or at least we were, until we began moving much of our manufacturing capabilities offshore. And I don't believe the people who say that the only important thing is the price: If people were told what's been going on, they'd demand change. I had no idea about this stuff until peoples' pets started dying, and then, all of a sudden, it was an issue? I'd be willing to bet that if anyone were informed that the Chinese were using an industrial chemical to fool testers into thinking that they were getting more protein then they actually were, and by the way, that chemicle is toxic, there would have been decisions to use a different supplier.

Mark

25 posted on 05/20/2007 5:44:41 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: sam_paine

i think you should get all the products from china

we;ll try other stuff

and i hope you enjoy it

i understand about the $$ ‘ied


26 posted on 05/20/2007 5:48:24 AM PDT by Flavius ("Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: snowsislander; Flavius
It is clear from that article that it is impossible without a comprehensive ban on all food products from China to protect our families.

Well CANCEL THE HEARINGS, Charlotte!!! Ding Ding ding! We have necessary and sufficient evidence from a few paragraphs of this authoritative author that, by golly, that's all we need to 'know.'

Thus we can formulate policy for an international embargo against China and raise prices in America based on this short article. We already see how much Americans understand and accept high commodity oil prices, so we should have $15/lb chicken prices for Bo Pilgrim and other Big Chicken, Cos.

Close the ports and send the stevedores home, honey! We got this problem licked!

27 posted on 05/20/2007 5:49:27 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

i like your plan


28 posted on 05/20/2007 5:51:21 AM PDT by Flavius ("Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: Flavius

From the Cox report to dumping and slave labor, nothing will stop the free trader’s plunge into the Heart of Darkness.


29 posted on 05/20/2007 5:54:27 AM PDT by James W. Fannin (unappeasable)
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To: sam_paine

Only girly-men are worried about being poisoned. So what, 107 detained food imports from China last month, and that’s what they caught. No more complaints from me, I am going to take my Commie poison like a man from this day forward. Yeah, right, and CAIR will have a pig roast, and Sam will get a clue.


30 posted on 05/20/2007 5:55:17 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Just wait till the Pretendicans have to debate, Hunter in '08)
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To: sam_paine
Well CANCEL THE HEARINGS, Charlotte!!! Ding Ding ding! We have necessary and sufficient evidence from a few paragraphs of this authoritative author that, by golly, that's all we need to 'know.'

Well, I would say that a few thousand dead pets might have convinced a few folks.

However, please, if you would like advocate eating as much cheap swill from China as you and your family can consume, please feel free to do so. Ours is a free country, unlike the PRC.

I will myself advocate that we cease all trade with Red China. I myself think it makes no sense to make a totalitarian nation richer, and I think it foolish for us to consume their food products.

31 posted on 05/20/2007 5:55:33 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Flavius

Think Globally...Eat LOCALLY!


32 posted on 05/20/2007 5:56:29 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: Flavius
i think you should get all the products from china

I don't want most of the products of China. But I do like the fact that the industrial export stuff they build over there leaves all of the environmental damage in Red China, not in the American Rust Belt.

It's not a complete lose-lose proposition.

As for food, I think it is MUCH more dangerous to eat the work product of a high-school kid at Applebee's cooking American pork/poultry/unwashed veggies than it is to prepare a meal at home with Chinese food products.

But anyway, I figure I'm going to die someday, so I don't get overly worked up about malachite green in eels.

33 posted on 05/20/2007 5:57:12 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

The problem here is that American food suppliers buy from China so you may not know where your food ingredients are coming from. How many of us knew our dog and cat food had ingredients sent from China?

Unless we make the US companies print that some of their product ingredient is imported, we will never know.


34 posted on 05/20/2007 5:57:50 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: Arizona Carolyn; mom4kittys; blam; Salamander; Red Badger; WakeUpAndVote; dirtboy; Overtaxed; ...

35 posted on 05/20/2007 6:00:49 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Flavius

And how many Americans will run down to their local Wal-Mart to buy their MADE IN CHINA American flag for the Fourth of July?


36 posted on 05/20/2007 6:01:41 AM PDT by anonsquared (WHAT'S MADE/RAISED/GROWN IN CHINA, STAYS IN CHINA!)
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To: Flavius

I hope china gags and dies on it’s own stupidity.


37 posted on 05/20/2007 6:03:27 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Suzy Quzy
Think Globally...Eat LOCALLY!

I humbly bow before your superior wit!

Cheers!

38 posted on 05/20/2007 6:04:26 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: anonsquared

i’m not sure

but i can tell you with 100% certainty they will not eat it


39 posted on 05/20/2007 6:04:40 AM PDT by Flavius ("Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: WildcatClan; Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
We have a right to know what we are buying, food or otherwise.

And who granted you that 'right?'

I get so sick of seeing people throw that word around.

The second amendment RIGHT to bear arms was a pre-existing natural condition for self-defense granted BY GOD.

There is no 'right' to know anything about what you put in your mouth beyond what you can discern for yourself. You wanna know what's in it? GROW IT YOU LAZY FOOL.

If you don't want to grow it, make friends with someone at your farmer's market. Too lazy for that? Make a contact at your local grocer? Too lazy for that? Petition your government to extort money from my paycheck to hire inspectors that neither you nor I know to put a label on certain foodstuffs because of spot/periodic/sampled inspections based on standards neither you nor I have agreed upon.......AH YES! Now you've got your 'right.'

This country is full of socialist pigs.

40 posted on 05/20/2007 6:04:53 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: snippy_about_it
See my post #18.

Cheers!

41 posted on 05/20/2007 6:05:25 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Flavius
I think they might do something when a hundred or so Americans and their new colonial masters (illegal immigrants) drop dead.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

42 posted on 05/20/2007 6:06:15 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
I have not set foot in Chinese restaurant since this scandal broke and don’t plan to again, at least not for a long, long time. They also can go belly-up.

Um, there's no guarantee that the food in any restaurant doesn't come from China.

Congress passed country of origin labeling in 2002 as a provision of a farm subsidy bill. Processed foods are excluded, as are foods sold by restaurants. The full implementation of the bill, by the way, was postponed twice by executive order (thank you, Mr. Bush), and only unprocessed seafood needs to be labeled as of this year.

Curiously -- or not so curiously if you read the full article posted -- the fresh meat provision, which should go into effect next year, if not postponed yet again, excludes poultry.

I can't imagine why. /sarc

43 posted on 05/20/2007 6:06:34 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Flavius

Then they should quit supporting China by buying all that’s made there.

I guarantee that if you check out all of the Fourth of July goods (paper plates, napkins, decorations, etc.), they’ll all be from China. LEAVE THEM ON THE SHELVES!


44 posted on 05/20/2007 6:08:10 AM PDT by anonsquared (WHAT'S MADE/RAISED/GROWN IN CHINA, STAYS IN CHINA!)
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To: anonsquared

i understand

however at 7.50-9.00 per hour and 40 kids

your options are dollar store china and walmart china

company store 21century style


45 posted on 05/20/2007 6:10:06 AM PDT by Flavius ("Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: Flavius

Thanks for the ping mom4

Thanks for the ping.
Does anyone have a list of all these China stories we have been following.
I would like to send them to my Senators.

I sent a long list of links to my Senator a couple of weeks ago about the use of rx drugs in this country.
I could not believe it the other day when his Washington office called and she said the Senator wanted her to call me to discus the situation.
Emails do work.
Let’s let them know how we feel about China and their stinking no good crap they are sending us.
I mean story links, not forum links.
I should have kept one myself, but did not realize how this was going to grow.
I think it would have quite an impact to list them all and tell them to tell China to stick it.
We are not buying this crap.


46 posted on 05/20/2007 6:10:52 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Pray for W.)
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To: freeangel

It seems as if the stupidity, or rather the ignorance is the American consumers. It takes no stupidity to sell bad product, only dishonor and a dash of greed. All the while our purchases go towards the Commie Military Machine. But what the l-l ell, the environmental impact on the rust belt is lessened, albeit, a jobless environment.


47 posted on 05/20/2007 6:11:55 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Just wait till the Pretendicans have to debate, Hunter in '08)
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To: grey_whiskers

:)


48 posted on 05/20/2007 6:12:56 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: Flavius; All

Grow your own. Shop local farm markets. Learn to bake your own bread with flour from trusted companies such as King Arthur. Raise a few laying hens, maybe a milk cow or a goat if you have the room. Buy some whole cream and I’ll show you how to make your own butter. Learn to can, dry and preserve the harvest. Invest in a meat smoker. Learn to hunt and/or fish. Plenty-o-grub all around us to eat. (Well, not in the city, of course...but we’ll share. A little.)

I WELCOME a return to simpler, more self-reliant times. In two short generations, we’ve become helpless slaves to imported foodstuffs. :)

And don’t forget to keep plenty of dry socks and ammo on hand. ;)


49 posted on 05/20/2007 6:15:14 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: snowsislander
Ours is a free country, unlike the PRC.

Try opening a business in this "free country" and see how that goes. For example, try opening a butcher shop to sell clean, American grown beef, and see how long you get to stay in business in this "free country" when you fail to order the right brand of anti-bacterial floor mat, or don't have the shop partitioned the way the USDA inspectors you trust so much like to see it.

Stop paying your property tax (aka county rent/tithe) and see if you really "own" your land in this 'free' country.

Try going to a street corner to exercise your free speech and say that hispanics are destroying this country....see how long you get to exercise your "free speech."

For the small businessman, indeed, the PRC is 'freer' than America. In China, the government doesn't jack with you until you've made it big. If you want to open a local auto-garage, you just nail a sign up. If you turn it into a multi-million RMB biz, then they might come in and nationalize you or put the bribe on you, but at least the little guys can get started without getting hauled into court for violating OSHA or ADA bs.

America -was- the land of the free. But all the "there oughta be a law" folks killed her and have turned her into a socialist state ruled by lawyers....we just haven't admitted it yet.

50 posted on 05/20/2007 6:15:46 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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