Posted on 05/18/2007 6:20:57 AM PDT by bmwcyle
A leader in the United Methodist Church has equated the U.S. flag to the Nazi swastika, drawing the criticism of a watchdog organization that says it is an example of the church's "contemptuous" attitude towards the nation and its heritage.
The comments came from Rev. Clayton Childers, of the Washington-based United Methodist Board of Church and Society, who said, "The presence of a national flag in worship can imply endorsement of national policies which often run counter to the teachings of Jesus Christ and our Christian faith. … One need only recall the way the swastika flag was displayed prominently in German churches during the Nazi era."
Mark Tooley
He was discussing on the organization's website the propriety of having Old Glory in Christian churches, but his condemnation drew the ire of Mark Tooley, the executive director of UMAction, which monitors the eight-million member church and its activities.
"The United Methodist Church, under its liberal leadership, is losing over 50,000 members a year, and this church lobby official is oddly worried about getting American flags out of our churches," Tooley said.
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Then you, Pastor Piece of Sh*t, can get the hell out of the country and take your liberal scum worshippers with you.
Morning pissant
Rev. Clayton Childers is no better than the jerks on FR who bash the Confederate Flag.
Buenos Dias.
If they hate America so much, it is time for them to leave.
This foolish and and ignorant man is trivializing the meaning and practice of Nazism.
Did he ever watch "The Eternal Jew". Goebbel's hideous masterpice of anti-semetic propaganda?
If he had (and it's clear that he hasn't), he'd know that Nazism wasn't about flags, it was about murder, genocide, and barbarism.
and the Methodists wonder why their churches are losing people and money.
I crossed the Tiber four years ago, and have not regretted one moment of it.
This kind of foolishness has been going on for a long time and will continue. “Christians” don’t seem to have a clue about who has taken over the national church organizations. If your church contributes to any national organization you can be sure that you are supporting Childers and his fellow America haters. Watch where your money goes.
Hola bmw.
Good morning to you.
I got out in the mid-90s and have never looked back.
It can only imply endorsement of national policies if the church endorses those policies, or remains silent about those it opposes.
The swastika flag in German churches at that time should have been a constant reminder of what the church stood in opposition to, even if they could not oppose it overtly.
I likely disagree with this Methodist leader on much of what the church should oppose in our government. I also disagree that removing the flag is the right approach.
If you don't agree with what your government is doing, it's your responsibility to do what you can to change it. Christianity teaches us to be moral members of society. While Christianity does teach forgiveness of the repentant, it also teaches personal accountability.
Much of the Church seems to have forgotten that forgiveness is something that comes in response to repentance and has abandoned the concept of personal responsibility for sinful actions.
and the Methodists wonder why their churches are losing people and money.
One person doesn’t speak for the whole church.
I am not a Methodist and, know nothing about their worship but, I do know how the MSM like distorting and church org.
This sure ain’t the Methodist Church that my parents used to drag me to every Sunday.
I heard this stupid arguement about 10 years ago from a Byzantine priest who said his Eastern European visitors were SHOCKED to see an American Flag on a pole behind the altar railing. So, the hammera$$ took it away and put it in the back of the church. Promptly, quite a few members of the church (I included) walked out. When he followed us and asked us why we were leaving, we told him that if it weren’t for that same flag that the Easter European visitors were degrading, they be forced members of the Nazi party or would have been put to death.
I don’t know about the others, but I left and never came back.
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