I thought I was watching Paul morph into Paulsen when he made his blame America for 9/11 comment.
Posted on 05/17/2007 6:36:03 AM PDT by finnman69
Shades of the Old Rudy!
America's Mayor provided the most electrifying moment of Tuesday night's GOP presidential debate when he ripped into Rep. Ron Paul for suggesting that U.S. foreign policy invited the 9/11 attacks.
"That's an extraordinary statement," said a clearly indignant Rudy Giuliani, as he demanded that Paul retract the assertion. "I don't think I've ever heard that before, and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for Sept. 11."
Good for him.
Most of Rudy's rivals doubtless thought it best just to ignore the Texas oddball's isolationist rant. But Giuliani decided otherwise - and he was right to do so.
Because the sad fact is that, Rudy's disclaimer notwithstanding, Paul's argument has been made before - indeed, it's still heard with disturbing frequency.
What was so jarring was to hear it from a self-styled Republican candidate instead of a left-wing Democrat.
Just how far gone the Democrats are on 9/11 can be seen in the results of a new Rasmussen Reports poll, which found that fully 35 percent of all Democrats believe President Bush had advance knowledge of the attacks - and another 26 percent say they're not sure.
How sad. But it gets worse.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05172007/postopinion/editorials/rudy_reads_the_riot_act_editorials_.htm
If Ron Paul had any delusion of winning the primary, I would have to guess this remark reminded him he is not.
Paul sounds like a nut.
His philosophy goes like this: “If you have a beef with someone, it’s ok to kill their wives and kids.”
The fact that Rudy was the one to stand up to this clown shows you just how unable to actually LEAD the rest of the field is.
Actually Rootie was just lucky to be next in line to be asked a question. Paul’s was an easy argument to slap down.
I thought I was watching Paul morph into Paulsen when he made his blame America for 9/11 comment.
NO..your logic is seriously flawed.
the fact the Rudy said something was because he was mayor of ground zero and because of that was the appropriate one to answer.
His ability to lead the country has been invalidated by his 2nd amendment bashing and by being an abortion booster(and the poor need to get their abortions FREE).
No Rudy is WRONG in so many ways.
Good for him.
Uh, if Rudy has never heard that before, it suggests that he's never read the 9-11 Commission Report. Ron Paul has served for years on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, so he knows what he's talking about.
Either Rudy seized this as an opportunity to jump atop the WTC rubble and do a bit of posturing and grandstanding to remind people that he was there, or he really has no idea about the most important security issues of our age.
9-11 Commission Report, pp48-49:
It is the story of eccentric and violent ideas sprouting in the fertile ground of political and social turmoil. It is the story of an organization poised to seize its historical moment. How did Bin Ladin—with his call for the indiscriminate killing of Americans—win thousands of followers and some degree of approval from millions more?The history, culture, and body of beliefs from which Bin Ladin has shaped and spread his message are largely unknown to many Americans. Seizing on symbols of Islam’s past greatness, he promises to restore pride to people who consider themselves the victims of successive foreign masters. He uses cultural and religious allusions to the holy Qur’an and some of its interpreters. He appeals to people disoriented by cyclonic change as they confront modernity and globalization.His rhetoric selectively draws from multiple sources—Islam, history, and the region’s political and economic malaise. He also stresses grievances against the United States widely shared in the Muslim world. inveighed against the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam’s holiest sites. He spoke of the suffering of the Iraqi people as a result of sanctions imposed after the Gulf War, and he protested U.S. support of Israel.
In effect, he delivered a 70 mph fastball right over the plate for Giuliani. ;)
Sorry, you don’t have to be Mayor of New York on 9/11 to tell call an a$$clown and a$$clown! If any of these men wants to lead, they should be showing they can stand up and lead, and not a damned one of em called this fool to task for his crap.
Lead, follow or get out of the way... only one guy stood up to this fool. If you aren’t willing to stand up to an idiot during a debate, you sure as hell have no business in the White House.
Did you actually watch the debate??
All who did watch the debate know, that although Rudy was first out of the gates at this - the others also wanted to immediately, themselves, reply to nut-case Ron Paul but, sadly, were not given that opportunity by the panel's questioner, who immediately moved on to another question.
Rudy didn’t wait for a moderator to OK him to challenge this nut! The others attempted to dog pile after Rudy had taken the lead....
Like I said, lead, follow or get out of the way.
The point Ron Paul fails to see in his “sippy straw†assessment is that Osama Bin Ladin represents no sovereign nation, he is only one self centered megalomaniac hell bent on taking over the World for his own aggrandizement. The United States was asked to be in the middle east by the leaders of the host Countries. The leaders of these Countries are who make policy NOT some sociopathic miscreant that only knows violence as a means to resolve issues.
was in quotes. I was answering someone elses post
No..I won't watch the debats until Fred joins the frey. All others (with the exception of Hunter)are pretenders to the Reagan throne. I can watch a dog and pony show on Comedy Central if I need too. (I did hear a chunk of it on talk radio though)
but like I said, it was RUDY's responsibility to say something to that @$$wipe Paul about 9-11...the attack happened in his ballpark...
He also stresses grievances against the United States widely shared in the Muslim world. inveighed against the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam’s holiest sites. He spoke of the suffering of the Iraqi people as a result of sanctions imposed after the Gulf War, and he protested U.S. support of Israel.
We also supported Iraq in their invasion of Iran in 1980, which cost the lives of half a million Iranians over the course of the eight year war, in which Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran in violation of the Geneva Protocol to which they were a signatory.
Don't you think that might have a slight effect on how we are perceived in the region? That it might piss off a few folks here and there?
We was too busy making millions by "consulting" for the Mexican police.
We was too busy making millions by "consulting" for the Mexican police.
The Ron Pauls of the world do not have the DNA for survival. They are nothing but a babbling, convenient mouthpiece for the very persons who want to kill us all.
We had these types excusing away the slaughter of millions in the communist countries and now we have them excusing and rationalizing slaughter of millions by Islamist terrorists - and saying it’s all our fault. Ron Paul and his likes are not just neurotics - they are psychotics big-time.
Yawn, anti-war isolationist america deserved it mentally nutball got what he deserved... Thing about this stage or primaries is even the fruits and nuts get a bit of airtime... fortunately this won’t last much longer.
The Gulf War which was an action of the UN, not the actions of 3000 office workers in NYC.... Stop being an apologists for the enemies of America.
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