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1 posted on 05/14/2007 9:15:53 AM PDT by bedolido
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Do we really want the “Hey screw your brains out because you’ve gotten the shot” vaccine?
2 posted on 05/14/2007 9:19:29 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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I won’t vote for Giuliani.
3 posted on 05/14/2007 9:24:09 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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Conservatives do not want to pay for this vaccine, anyone is free to get the vaccine, we just do not desire to pay for this.


5 posted on 05/14/2007 9:24:37 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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This is not a cancer vaccine.


7 posted on 05/14/2007 9:29:24 AM PDT by pby
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From later in the article

George Sawaya, a gynaecologist at the Comprehensive Cancer Center at the University of California, San Francisco, notes that the trial still has another year to run. Surprises often appear late on in such studies and Sawaya says he thinks the CDC should have waited until all the data was available before taking a stance on the vaccine.

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Public health experts are also divided, though. Some question whether the relatively small numbers of lives that would be saved are justified by the significant cost of a vaccine programme. Merck will charge around $360 for the three-doses needed.

8 posted on 05/14/2007 9:29:52 AM PDT by holfen123
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The “scientists” at newscientist.com can’t even get the basics on this topic correct.

The Merck vaccine is NOT a “cancer vaccine.”

It is a vaccine dealing with a specific virus

and NOT a “cancer vaccine” as their headline states.


9 posted on 05/14/2007 9:33:54 AM PDT by holfen123
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Bogus statistics, clever marketing, and a great big rip-off!

If you research the full statistics, you’ll see that most cases of HPV-caused cervical cancer are caused by strains of HPV that Gardasil doesn’t even protect against!

This is not a vaccine against all, nor even MOST of the strains that cause cervical cancer. It’s a very expensive vaccine that only offers protection from a few strains of the virus.


10 posted on 05/14/2007 9:35:27 AM PDT by BMIC
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I just don’t understand the entitlement mentality that requires taxpayers to fund birth control, abortion and now this virus vaccine.

When I was younger and I wanted birth control, I waited till I was working and could afford whatever I needed myself. I wouldn’t think of asking my parents (who would have kicked my sorry rear to the curb) or trying to get these things from government entitlement.

In my view, if you are going to have sex before marriage or whatever it is you are doing, it should be up to you to buy yourself whatever protection you need. If you can’t afford it, then keep your pants zipped.


11 posted on 05/14/2007 9:37:49 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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"After around three years of the four-year trial, almost all girls who received the vaccine before being exposed to HPV 16 or 18 appear to be protected. Those who had already been exposed to the viruses received little benefit, but by vaccinating early on, perhaps at 11 years of age, most girls could be protected.

Appear? Could? And they want to waist untold Millions on something they aren't even sure about? And it doesn't even work for those who DO have the virus?

Give me a break.
12 posted on 05/14/2007 9:39:11 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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Is drug industry giant Merck placing articles in the “New Scientist” now?


15 posted on 05/14/2007 9:47:47 AM PDT by holfen123
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This is a rather thorny issue, isn’t it? The Federal Government is too blunt an instrument to insert it routinely into our daily lives.


16 posted on 05/14/2007 9:50:26 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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However, attempts to introduce compulsory vaccination programmes at the state level have run up against opposition.

Of course the media distorts the real problem. It isn't that conservatives are blocking the vaccine, they do not want it to be mandatory. The only way to transmit HPV is through sexual contact. If you feel that you are not a ho, then you might not want to be forced to pay $360 for something you don't need.

I have to say "tsk-tsk-tsk" at Merck for this one as well. With Zocor's patent expired and Fosamax's patent ending in February, they are needing ways to keep there revenue high. Nothing like government mandated purchases to secure revenue.

18 posted on 05/14/2007 10:04:07 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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It’s not a cancer vaccine, it’s a slut vaccine. This is telling girls as young as 10, 11, 12, 13 that they can get laid without fear of getting this sexually transmitted form of cancer. It’s a vaccine that, like abortion, is a way of negating personal responsibility.

Well, there is one thing that works better than this friggin liberal invented shot. ABSTINANCE!!! As with pregnancy and all other STDs, abstinance is 100% effective, and there is no shot required. As far as I’m concerned, any girl that young that’s sleepnig around, if she gets that cancer, she can blame herself and the guy that gave i to her. We don’t need more ways to flaunt morality and personal responsibility. The whole concept of this shot makes me want to puke.


19 posted on 05/14/2007 10:15:39 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Issues don't matter, lies are ok, liberals are in control,& Conservative non-votes did it. Good job.)
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Isn’t this the $318 per pop vaccine? Some lobbyist and some drug company is making a lot of money because the government (meaning we people that work and pay taxes) are footing the bill.
24 posted on 05/14/2007 10:25:00 AM PDT by jackieaxe (This one hour pre-flight security screening is brought to you by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia)
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Wow, TWO outright lies in a single headline! The media are really outdoing themselves.


32 posted on 05/14/2007 10:35:37 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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If parents what their little girls to get the vaccine, let them go to their own doctor for it, and keep the government out of it.


39 posted on 05/14/2007 10:47:08 AM PDT by Risky-Riskerdo
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What a pantload. The New England Journal recently published an article examining the data critically. Turns out Gardasil isn't effective against most HPV viruses and it's effectiveness is low against those it does.

It's high cost makes it's widespread use questionable. So, they went to a full court press publicity campaign aided by gullible lefties to try to get the states to pay for it and mandate it, which would be a huge profit at the public expense. People are catching on, but not the maroon who wrote this article.

42 posted on 05/14/2007 10:54:39 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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If you want, you can still have your daughters vaccinated for this. They are pushing for a law so that those who can afford the cost of the vaccine can also be forced to help pay through tax dollars for the cost of those who cannot afford to pay.

The cost to taxpayers will be billions nationwide. And the vaccine covers only 4 out of almost 30 strains of the virus. My concern is that this drug has not been tested long-term and I don't want our children to be used as guinea pigs for the drug companies.

44 posted on 05/14/2007 10:59:47 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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why do we need to mandate a vacine for a secual behavior disease? Could it be the lobbyists for the drug maker are pushing this to deal with the fact the pap test is not profitable enough?


46 posted on 05/14/2007 11:03:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I absolutely don’t agree with requiring anybody to get this vaccine, but it’s just idiocy to argue against it on the basis it will cause rampant promiscuity.


51 posted on 05/14/2007 11:20:05 AM PDT by gracesdad
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