I've read first-person accounts of combat where the guy being interviewed would say something like "it's hot, you're tired, you're pissed off, the gooks' eyes are slanty and you just don't like it, so you shoot them".
I thought Hamburger Hill wa better.
A defining Nam pic hasn’t been made yet.
Stone’s ‘Sea of Grass’ was a more realistic treatment.
Tommy Lee jones was excellent, it portrayed the trauma of
survival much better, amazingly his vietnamese wife adapted
while he ended up blowing his brains out naked in a VW bus.
I never served.
I have seen interviews with WW 2 combat vets who said “Saving Private Ryan” was the most realistic combat film ever made followed by Viet Nam war film “Full Metal Jacket”.
I was not in ‘Nam. But I worked with a guy who claimed to serve with Oliver Stone. This guy said Stone wounded himself and fellow soldiers by accidentally discharging a grenade launcher. Draw your own conclusions.
My old platoon sargeant Max (SF, 2 tours in Viet Nam) said Apocalypse Now was just like it.
I was in the US Navy, sea going that is. BUT, a good friend was an Air Cobra pilot, purple heart, bronze star so he’s been there, done that. I think he’s seen just about every VN era flick produced. His all time favorite for accuracy of details, attitudes, spirit and the amazing perseverence of soldiers in particular is “We Were Soldiers”.
He’s also read the book, which is more complete of course but the film version is tops for him. That’s good enough for me too.
A buddy that was “brown water Navy” (Mekong Delta, riverine patrol—Operation Game Warden, also purple heart, bronze star w/V device) agree with the opinion on “We Were Soliers”, especially the terrible feeling of sudden, random death.
Apocolypse Now was pukesville for him, as well as myself and we were looking anxiously for a Navy flick dealing with riverine patrol combat. Darn! You wanted opinions, ya got ‘em!
Don't succumb to the political BS about VN, for one thing. For another, assume every VN vet had an experience unique to him, and a movie is necessarily a distillation of many lives. I watched "Platoon", back when it came out, with a group of VN vets and met with a group of them afterwards. Most could identify with one character or another but nobody could identify with the story as a whole.
I think it is way past time to be worrying about thirty-year -old movies, and begin to deal with the present crises.
I'm STILL waiting for a WWII film that shows it as it REALLY was early in the Pacific Theatre: Incompetant (really poorly trained) junior officers getting themselves and their men killed by the hundreds, even on a destroyer such as the one my grandfather served on. I got news for you folks, WWII wasn't all about "greatness." It was about a bunch of young men, a flaccid middle officer corp, a GREEN junior officer corp, who miraculously managed to get their sh-t together and defeat the two most powerful armies/navies in the world at that time.
Bassoonists always feel left out of some great compositions. Just about the only glory the insturment sees is in several of Beethoven's Symphonies and Bach's first Brandenburg. Other than that, you pine to be a violist in the Adagio or a horn player William Tell. Now I couldn't care less about the Barber.
That idiot movie ruined a perfectly beautiful piece of music for me.
The most important thing to understand about Vietnam is that left-wing dirty hate-America-first rotten commie b@stards undermined our military while it was trying to win the war. They’re doing the same thing today.
I am too young to really remember the Vietnam war, but I have thought that Forrest Gump, of all movies, had a pretty good portrayal of the war and the turmoil at home.
Stone was a guy who quit (and/or was thrown out of) Yale to join as a grunt. Everything you need to know about the guy is about Vietnam and where he came from.
“The Deer Hunter” - The entire movie is a metaphor for the stupidity that was Vietnam.
“Apocalypse Now” - Nothing in it that actually happened in Vietnam, but an excellent movie for Vietnam Vets who want to be reminded of their individual stories.
“Platoon” - The night fire fight scene depicts the chaos and confusion as close to reality as anything I can imagine. The killing of the old man is a metaphor for My Lai.
“Forrest Gump” - The ambush scene is on par with the night fire fight scene in “Platoon.”
“Full Metal Jacket” - What happened in the first half of the movie in Basic Training is believable. When the story jumps to Vietnam, you can learn more by walking out of the theater.
“Go Tell the Spartans” - Takes place in 64 and the message to me was, we should have seen it coming. Good simple movie.
He wrote Platoon from his own experiences and the Charlie Sheen character was 'him'.
(An aside maybe Stone is wacky now from smoking all that VN weed???)
I think both are right. I think during the later stages of Viet Nam it became weird like Platoon. The eary stages of Viet Nam were like We Were Soldiers. Also, I guess it depends on where you were and whether you were Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine; in the bush or a REMF.
All just my opinion.