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Robot wars: [An attempt to build an ethical robotic soldier]
The Economist ^ | April 17, 2007

Posted on 04/22/2007 9:42:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Verdelet
...if we provide them with free will somehow...

We could make them completely predictable, or we can make aspects of their behavior random (actually only very nearly random). But how do we provide free will?

21 posted on 04/23/2007 12:38:12 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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22 posted on 04/23/2007 12:57:05 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: AndyTheBear

Determinists say that free will does not exist at all,and all our behviours are random (for us) but still predetermined.:)
Lack of free will means that robots can be nothing more than what we tell them to be.


23 posted on 04/23/2007 1:05:30 AM PDT by Verdelet (It's not the passport you have, neither the taxes you pay... It's the blood that runs in your veins!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I'm ready for a fight anytime!

24 posted on 04/23/2007 1:06:15 AM PDT by Silly (plasticpie.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tiny military robots?

25 posted on 04/23/2007 1:07:39 AM PDT by Silly (plasticpie.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Your future.

26 posted on 04/23/2007 1:08:41 AM PDT by Silly (plasticpie.com)
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"If, say, the drone from which the fatal attack on Mr Atef was launched had sensed that his car was overtaking a school bus, it may have held fire."

Sounds good except our concept of a school bus is a elongated, yellow vehicle with many windows. Two things: 1. The rag-head terroists would all be driving these around town. 2. The real school buses elsewhere in the world might not conform to our concepts. Also, the MSM would be reporting daily that we destroyed 10 school buses per day along with 300 kids.

Less sophistication and more explosion. This robotic concept is a good one but might be simpler and less expensive to have a human sitting on U.S. soil control the vehicle (a la UAV) and make the decisions.

27 posted on 04/23/2007 1:34:07 AM PDT by MarkT
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28 posted on 04/23/2007 3:10:30 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: Verdelet
Determinists say that free will does not exist at all,and all our behviours are random (for us) but still predetermined.:)

Our behaivors are hardly random for us. From our perspective we make choices. Sometimes they are even choices our body's and brain's don't like. Notice, that to the extent that we simply indulge our body and brain, we forsake free-will. We intuit what free-will means only because we are souls with free will.

As for the perspective of a future aware observer, how is it different the a current observer? For instance if I watch you do something in the present, I have not controlled your choice. Thus if I could watch you in the future, I would still not be.

Lack of free will means that robots can be nothing more than what we tell them to be.

Sounds about right. Unless a robot has a soul which can choose to override its programming, it can not have free-will.

Modern man has absolutely no idea how to do this (some even vainly refuse to acknowledge the obvious existence of souls).

29 posted on 04/23/2007 5:56:41 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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30 posted on 04/23/2007 7:47:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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Just so long as they are not wired in series.

Centralized control is not a good idea.

31 posted on 04/23/2007 3:47:18 PM PDT by jmcenanly (Cowards take hostages. We do not.)
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AMEE from Red Plant, a good idea at the time.


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32 posted on 04/24/2007 12:22:54 AM PDT by Fluke Codewriter (Democracy is a mob-rules mentality, it's like 100 wolves and 1 sheep fighting over what's for dinner)
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