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Virginia Tech shooter reportedly on anti-depression meds, increasingly angry leading up to massacre
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 12/17/07 | AP

Posted on 04/17/2007 11:41:34 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper

BLACKSBURG, Va. - The gunman suspected of carrying out the Virginia Tech massacre that left 33 people dead was identified Tuesday as an English major whose creative writing was so disturbing that he was referred to the school's counseling service. News reports also said that he may have been taking medication for depression, that he was becoming increasingly violent and erratic, and that he left a note in his dorm in which he railed against ''rich kids," ''debauchery" and ''deceitful charlatans" on campus. Cho Seung-Hui, a 23-year-old senior, arrived in the United States as boy from South Korea in 1992 and was raised in suburban Washington, D.C., officials said. He was living on campus in a different dorm from the one where Monday's bloodbath began. Police and university officials offered no clues as to exactly what set him off on the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: antidepressents; cho; murderdrugs; prozac; vatech; virginiatech
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This is probably a repeat of other recent articles, but I hadn't seen the "anti-depressant/rich kids" references.....
1 posted on 04/17/2007 11:41:39 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Sleeping Freeper

This highlights the ONLY way this could have been prevented. MAYBE, and only maybe, it could have been stopped if someone noticed that his behavior was escalating.

But he sounds so alienated (there is one report that he would not respond even if greeted) that maybe no one knew.

I feel sorry for his parents.


2 posted on 04/17/2007 11:43:53 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Yikes! That kid was a psychopath!


3 posted on 04/17/2007 11:44:02 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: Sleeping Freeper

A very large number of these schoolshooters were on prozac , ritalin, etc.


4 posted on 04/17/2007 11:44:05 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Every American killed by a Mexican truck is a homicide committed by our leaders..)
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To: pa mom

I truly doubt his parents would have seeked help or known. Especially if they were from the old country (South Korea) where that stuff is usually kept quiet for fear of shame.


5 posted on 04/17/2007 11:45:23 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: Lexington Green

Guns don’t kill people — Prozac kills people.


6 posted on 04/17/2007 11:45:34 AM PDT by AZLiberty (Tag to let -- 50 cents.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
“ ...he railed against ''rich kids," ''debauchery" and ''deceitful charlatans" on campus.”

Infidels...

7 posted on 04/17/2007 11:46:33 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

I notice they omit the detail about “Ismail Ax” being written in the note or on his arm, as reported earlier by the Chicago Tribune.

Was he a Muslim? No evidence for it as yet, except that one detail and perhaps the nature of the crime. But I find it interesting that a Salt Lake City newspaper is ignoring the possibility . . . again.

People on drugs are likely to suddenly explode. But these murders have all the appearance of long premeditation.


8 posted on 04/17/2007 11:48:28 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
Just reading on CNN that the note also contains that classic cliche "you made me do this".

Seems like the usual self-absorbed garbage which abdicates personal responsibility and blames others; "I'm not happy, therefore somebody must die."

9 posted on 04/17/2007 11:48:33 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: areafiftyone

“Loner Asian kid with over-bearing parents, penchant for disturbing fiction and a fascination with guns and violence” describes about three people in my Freshman year dorm. Scary.


10 posted on 04/17/2007 11:48:36 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: areafiftyone

I agree. Friends would have been the most likely ones to notice but those seem to be in short supply in his life.

We had a school shooting here recently and several kids came forward to lend insight into the kid’s personality, mindset, etc. No one has said a word about this guy. Pretty alienated.


11 posted on 04/17/2007 11:48:46 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: Sleeping Freeper

I smell a lawsuit brewing.


12 posted on 04/17/2007 11:48:51 AM PDT by Parmenio
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To: areafiftyone

And I’m guessing stricken with Sudden Jihad Syndrome


13 posted on 04/17/2007 11:48:52 AM PDT by pissant
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To: johnny7

Sound more to me like he had a thing against Rich kids. Rejection probably. Explains the stalking of the girl. Rejection, Anger, rage, murder.


14 posted on 04/17/2007 11:48:53 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: Sleeping Freeper

English major, eh? It figures. What are the most moonbatty leftwing departments in America today? English departments. Combine that with his ranting against rich kids and it all fits.


15 posted on 04/17/2007 11:49:12 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Lexington Green
A very large number of these schoolshooters were on prozac , ritalin, etc.

One is hard pressed to find such an incident where the shooter wasn't on mood altering drugs. Of all those that happened around the time of Columbine, only like two involved shooters where it could not be verified either way.
16 posted on 04/17/2007 11:50:26 AM PDT by NorthFlaRebel
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To: Callahan

Did this guy not have roommates? Don’t most dorms have more than one person per room? Haven’t heard a thing about that.


17 posted on 04/17/2007 11:50:37 AM PDT by americanMel
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To: LibWhacker

I don’t see a political bent to this. He was alienate, angry and mentally ill. His hatred came from inside, his own paranoia.


18 posted on 04/17/2007 11:50:58 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: pissant

Sudden Liberal Syndrome if you ask me. Hated Wealth - because probably rejected by rich kids or one rich kid in particular - rejected by the girl (possibly the girl he stalked was rich). Seems this kid has a host of psychological problems and the anti-depression drugs were not helping with them.


19 posted on 04/17/2007 11:51:30 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: LibWhacker
What are the most moonbatty leftwing departments in America today? English departments.

Yes, it's true...but some of us come through with our conservative chops undamaged.

-Oberon, VPI, B.A. English '92

20 posted on 04/17/2007 11:51:33 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Cicero

This kid would have have been a 9th-grader when Columbine went down. He’s probably been dreaming about his own “nerd’s revenge” since then.


21 posted on 04/17/2007 11:51:39 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: areafiftyone
Sound more to me like he had a thing against Rich kids. Rejection probably. Explains the stalking of the girl. Rejection, Anger, rage, murder.

That's the Rudy part of your brain talking... ;)

22 posted on 04/17/2007 11:51:54 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

I’m going to go way out on limb here and predict a flurry of lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies. I know, I know, how could I possibly forsee such an unlikely thing, but trust me.


23 posted on 04/17/2007 11:53:57 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: Callahan

I just realized that yesterday was also Holocaust Remembrance Day, which was mentioned in connection with that brave Israeli engineer who gave his life to save his students.

Another coincidence?


24 posted on 04/17/2007 11:54:10 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Sulejman Talovic, who shot and killed people at a mall recently, also came to America when he was a child.


25 posted on 04/17/2007 11:54:12 AM PDT by syriacus (Congress should debrief Pelosi as they would any US diplomat who met with a foreign leader.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Anger against the “rich” is a tell-tale sign that he was gotten to by liberal professors.


26 posted on 04/17/2007 11:54:44 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: Sleeping Freeper
GOOGLE < SSRI mass murder >

27 posted on 04/17/2007 11:54:54 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Cicero

Also this week was the 8 year anniversary of Columbine! Coinky Dink?


28 posted on 04/17/2007 11:54:55 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

Why the students did not bull rush this POS is beyond me. A few would have been shot, but very few.


29 posted on 04/17/2007 11:56:58 AM PDT by pissant
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To: areafiftyone

Since Cho seems to be filling in every stereotype I’m going to go one further and guess that he had typical Korean parents: stiff and unaffectionate with ridiculously high standards when it comes to academic achievement and “honor”.


30 posted on 04/17/2007 11:57:09 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: areafiftyone

I think it’s the April 15th (17th) IRS effect.


31 posted on 04/17/2007 11:58:00 AM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: XeniaSt

GOOGLE < SSRI mass murder >
______________________________

I think a compelling argument could be made here.


32 posted on 04/17/2007 11:58:01 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Callahan

That’s exactly what I think too!


33 posted on 04/17/2007 11:58:20 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: pissant

Everybody likes to think they would be a hard ass in this situation, but until some psycho bursts into your German class on a sleepy Monday morning we’ll never know.


34 posted on 04/17/2007 11:59:31 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Sleeping Freeper

This shakes me. A young man, a young Korean who looks a lot like this young man, fell for my daughter in Middle School. His obsession for her grew over the years and it evolved into frightening phone calls. I finally went to the principal who, fortunately, took immediate action. You just never know what these situations can grow into.


35 posted on 04/17/2007 12:00:21 PM PDT by twigs
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To: AZLiberty

Whatever drug he was on, if any, this much is certain: If just one sane teacher or sane student had been carrying a concealed weapon, the killer could have been shot long before he took so many lives and wounded so many others. Just one normal person with a weapon could have saved most of the others.

The psychiatrists don’t really know what will happen when they prescribe drugs. They are just guessing, playing with lives, and the consequences have often been fatal. Too often, the “cure” is worse than the mental imbalance.


36 posted on 04/17/2007 12:00:56 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: americanMel
"Did this guy not have roommates?"

There is a thread on FR where his roommate was interviewed by somebody (CNN?) 19 yr. old who said Cho was a weirdo who usually ignored anything said or replied with one word answers, at best.

37 posted on 04/17/2007 12:01:01 PM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: pissant

Fear! First thing a person does when the brain is in fear mode is freeze and then take flight! Unless you have military training or law enforcement training you will either freeze up or take flight - that is what usually happens to the untrained brain. These are students not military or cops. Its easy for us to sit here at our computers and think of what we would have done but if we were in the same you don’t know for sure.


38 posted on 04/17/2007 12:01:34 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: Callahan

Well, the last couple of hijack attempters got the living shiite beat out of them, so that’s a good sign.


39 posted on 04/17/2007 12:01:53 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Sleeping Freeper
Ismail
41 posted on 04/17/2007 12:03:43 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: D-Chivas

Not that is a verrrry strange comment!


42 posted on 04/17/2007 12:04:34 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

Not=Now


43 posted on 04/17/2007 12:04:54 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: LibWhacker
English major, eh? It figures. What are the most moonbatty leftwing departments in America today? English departments. Combine that with his ranting against rich kids and it all fits.

I don't understand why English Majors spend so much time agonizing in the university, when they could just drop out after their sophomore year and go directly to the Starbucks and start cranking out lattes.

44 posted on 04/17/2007 12:06:18 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Oberon
...but some of us come through with our conservative chops undamaged.

Lol, yes, you did, O! You did fine. And you must have a constitution of steel to have gotten through it in one piece. I believe it would've left me howling at the moon. Good thing I went into math.

45 posted on 04/17/2007 12:07:31 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: twigs

I hope someone of Korean descent will correct me if I’m wrong, but its my understanding (from my Uncle who does alot of business there) that Koreans are stereotypically the most racist people in Asia with a firm belief in their superiority over other other Asian peoples and everyone else. A generalization, but it would help explain why this guy would go insane at the hint of rejection or failure.


46 posted on 04/17/2007 12:08:09 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: areafiftyone

It sounds like the psychobabbling mental health professionals at the school missed the ticking time bomb..


47 posted on 04/17/2007 12:08:47 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: Sleeping Freeper

RE: left a note in his dorm in which he railed against ‘’rich kids,” ‘’debauchery” and ‘’deceitful charlatans”

Similar POV as the 9-11 attackers. Except spiked by a sick mind.


48 posted on 04/17/2007 12:09:10 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

If the nannies want to ban something, I think it’s time to give very serious thought to banning prozac.

They sure jumped on Vioxx for example when it was believed to contribute to the untimely death of those with heart conditions. Well, I submit that Prozac has killed a lot more people.


49 posted on 04/17/2007 12:10:41 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: ken5050

Yup! They sure did!


50 posted on 04/17/2007 12:11:09 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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